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Warning! Mirco not returning playfields and plastics.

By Mitch

4 years ago


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    • I've sent mirco a playfeild and plastic and never received them back 8 votes
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    • I'm never buying g from mirco because of this 95 votes
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    • I'll still buy from mirco because I have no issues with his shady practices 6 votes
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    • None of this matters as mirco quality is shit and he never addresses it. 56 votes
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    • I love mirco he can do no wrong. 16 votes
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    #155 4 years ago
    Quoted from wrb1977:

    I agree...a post is not a contract. Maybe someone can provide correspondence where Mirco says the original playfield will be returned along with a new repro.

    Even if it were a legal contract by the local jurisdiction, it would probably never be enforceable with one party in another country. In what jurisdiction did the deal actually take place? Is it here in the US? In Germany? Or where the Pinside servers are located? I could argue any of the above. The only way anyone could get any relief is to file a civil suit on their own, and good luck with that. You would need stupid money to be able to do that over a pinball playfield.

    #235 4 years ago
    Quoted from Dallas_Pin:

    It would be international theft and outside of FPD hands unless he has an active NCIC warrant (National) and they will extradite. If he is not returning several thousands of dollars of merchandise, it will likely be a felony. I’m not a lawyer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express; my recommendation would be to gather documents from everyone who sent Mirco playfields and plastics and not had them returned. Document everything and present this to the FBI. If the amount is high enough and they are located in Germany, you’ll likely get some traction and noise. I don’t think JJP and Stern really want to be associated with a company being investigated by the FBI for theft and more. Just saying

    There is no such thing as an NCIC warrant. NCIC stands for National Crime Information Center. Any jurisdictional warrant can be entered into their database...federal, local, etc. They maintain a database for law enforcement to go check criminal history and if there are any outstanding warrants. I think you were referring to an international warrant, and no jurisdiction would extradite for something as frivolous as a box of missing playfields. Nor would the FBI or US Attorney look at anything international that wasnt into the tens of millions of dollars in damages. They wont look at anything local under a million.
    The sad truth is, there would be no real legal remedy. This is the risk we take doing business outside of the country. The only effective course of action is open forum.

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