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Dear All
Here another warning.
I am from outside the USA and bought some articles from Mad-Amusements.
As long as I did send any money, I had a good, fast and very nice contact to JD, from Mad Amusements. Since I sent money truth wire transfer, I never heared anything more from him. That is one month ago. I wrote several E-Mails, several phone calls, without any success.
Is there some possibility for me?
regards
Dear all
I dont want to read here anything about good experiences. That is the reason why I believed it will work.
So once again
DONT SEND ANY MONEY TO MAD-AMUSEMENTS!
Further I was asking for any possibility for me. Is there? We are talking about 1200USD.
regards
Thank you all for your answers.
It is not a misunderstanding. He does not answer my E-Mail's, dont call me back, does not answer my messages sent truth his website, canceled my account. All that since 4 weeks.
Do I have a chance to get in contact with the police there? I am doing some research at the moment.
regards
Thank you!
I opened a new account with different E-Mail adress and wrote him a message.
No answer.
30 min. later my account does not longer exist!
I started some surveys in some Forum with the title: "Cheated by Mad-Amusements?"
I will see how many answers and maybe we become strong enough to do something.
Further I am getting in contact with some suppliers.
To be continued...
How does that work in the USA with the police? Is it better to call them, or to write E-Mail? Letter?
WOW!
Thank you all for your support!
Did several phonecalls to Horrormike! No answer.
Had a phonecall with my Bank here. They told me, I can demand my money back. But his Bank will not give it out, without consent from the owner. So it will not work.
With that answer from my Bank I was not satisfied and after further discussion and research she told me that I have made this transaction by SWIFT, thats a SWIFT-transaction and there exists some international rules for it.
So I have to go to my local policedepartment and "tell them the case" (sorry, I am not able to explain it better, because my english language). They will give me a for/confirmation, which I have to bring to my Bank. My Bank will than get in contact with the Bank from Horrormike. And it will not be so easy for him to explain what was going on, especially when I am not the only one who does that!!
Quoted from metallik:Translated: sounds like you're filing a police report, and they will give you an affidavit that you can take to your bank, at which point they'll open a case with his bank. If he doesn't answer THEM, chances are you'll get your money back by default.
Exactly!
Quoted from inhomearcades:doubt that will happen. I have been screwed with wire transfers before and short of a court order, I don't think they would do anything. Your time is best spent going through proper local US channels. I sent an email to mike as well stating the support for international sellers has pushed me away from using his site. I have gotten him on the phone about a year ago and may try to call him as well.
One US channel I did today, and I will use every of them, but one by one! At least that will bring him in a very uncomfortable situation over a longer period.
And please note; I am not talking about the 1200USD, I am talking about the feeling to be cheatet!
Over the last 18 years I bought goods from around the world for more than 60'000 USD! In all that time I never had one problem!
Till now... but for me it is not any problem to invest some time from me! Even when I have to invest further more money, I will.
Quoted from inhomearcades:Do you happen to have a list of the parts you ordered? I am curious to see if we can locate them elsewhere for you.
Thank you so much for your support.
But that is not necessary. If some different people give something, so would the shipping and import costs be very high.
But thank you for your nice offer.
regards
Christian
Quoted from pins4fun:I'm not saying that Mike is guilty as charged, but it would help everyone, including Mike, if Mike would come here and state his side of the story too.
Hm, why here? When he would answer an treat me fair, this thread would not exist.
At first I did worry me, I was thinking "oh, what is, when he is sick? And that is the reason why he dont answer?"
But after my new account was blocked/deleted... That was not a possibility.
Quoted from pins4fun:Why here? Because arbitration (although not a court-appointed process in this particular case) may actually work better than litigation (especially in cases of of international nature whereas rules and laws governing international trade may not fully dove-tail and may not be mutually enforceable) and that everyone who's already heard your side of the story gets to hear the other side of the story too, as an added benefit. If I'm not mistaken, Mike joined other such threads in the past and made good on some of his problems. What could be sweeter and more desirable than that?
I understand what you are meaning. And I agree, everyone has the right, to tell his view of the story.
So maybe he will answer here, I hope so.
Quoted from pezpunk:unfortunately, and I mean this in the nicest way possible, I think you are wasting your time. good luck either way.
For me it is not a waste of time.
I take it as a experience, till now I learned a lot of new things and it is still going on. I enjoy to handle this case, also when I have to invest more money, that is not a problem for me.
regards
Christian
Quoted from Pintucky:Christian, I think a lawyer would cost you far more than the amount of money you are potentially losing. If you lived here in the States, you could file against him in Small Claims Court. Very inexpensive and you can act as your own lawyer. But since this is impractical, I propose this: Go into the 'Search' spot on this forum and look up one of the latest Mad Amusements LONG threads. About a year ago, I posted the procedure it takes to go through authorities there in Brick, New Jersey to get your money. The info tells you what forms to get and what office to get them from and where to send. I am in a rush right now to go somewhere or I would do it for you. It worked for a friend in Italy. See if you can find that and proceed from there. You will need to go to your bank of origin and get your SWIFT account transaction, and ask for the routing number of the receiving bank in New Jersey. The routing number is the bank's federal recognition number or identification number. All banks here have one and they have 9 digits. Once you get your copy of the SWIFT transaction you can download those forms (I posted it on that thread) to file with the local Business Complaints office.
Dear Pintucky
Thank you very much for that structured and clear information. That is the kind of information I was looking for.
And I will tell you once again: It is not my highest priotity to get my money back. I lost a lot more money in other cases, but I was never cheatet. To be cheatet is something new for me. But this also is since 2 weeks no longer a problem for me. Since 3 weeks I have a new very interesting job, earn more money and here began the winter. So can not do my summerhobbies anymore these times and pinball restauration I cant'do also! (Maybe you remember, I am since some weeks waiting for a lot of pinballparts).
In our region we say; If you know something about a problem and you dont something against it, than you are a part of the problem itself.
If I have to invest two or three thousand dollars and I can stop that cheater, I would be very happy and proud.
To be continued...
regards
Christian
Dear all
Thank's again to everybody who supported me in any way.
I am allready in contact with
OCDCA
with BBB
Several users from this forum
With my bank
Users in european Forum
Today I did some structure to save and organice all communications for this case, E-Mails, hyperlinks printscreens ect.
Still looking for laywer.
regards
Christian
Quoted from theseadoomaster:I don't think any posts here will help op get his money back.
I repeat it once again.
I dont care about the money.
It is another thing (dont know how to explain in english, but I am sure the most of people reading this thread, know what I mean!)
thanks
Had a lot of answers (private message) and I has do read them now.
One question: Could one of you guys check the telephone from mad-amusements?
Normally I call him each day, one time, to leave him a message on his voice mail and wish him a nice day. Yesterday I could not reach him! 
To be continued...
P.S.
I like when you suppoting me. But please no illegal actions! And no calling to visit him and do anything...
Please stay on good level.
Thanks
Quoted from Crash:Kaneda was being sarcastic I believe. What's the phone problem all of a sudden? Is he just not answering, or can you no longer get to his voice mail?
Text spoken when I dial his number:
This number is not valid.
regards
Christian
Hello again
I opened a complaint at the Department of Consumer Affairs at the 20 November 2014. At the 26 I asked them what is going on. Than they wrote it will take some time and I have to wait. Till today, no news.
Does anybody know how long that could take?
regards
Christian
Hello
Sorry, no really news. I am still waiting for answer from Department of Consumer Affairs.
If you can provide me some more options, pleas do that. Soon I will have some days off, that means I have the time to do something in that case.
regards
Christian
Dear all
A few weeks ago, I was very motivated to bring mad to justice.
But now, I dont know, the Ocean County Department of Consumer Affairs is not answering me.
At the moment I have no plan how to go on.
Just to speak it out.
regards
Christian
Quoted from Chaos:Luckily I saw this thread. Was in the process of ordering a few items to South Africa. Not a chance now.
However, there is one small item that they have that I can't get anywhere else currently (blue car for Corvette)
Does anyone here go there ever, that would be prepared to purchase it for me and I'll sort them out via Paypal?
I was going to order a bunch of other stuff. Will stick with Action Pinball who has given me great service. Guys like this give US vendors a bad name, when in fact most of them are awesome to deal with.
Chaos
You know I was cheated from him and now you will do business with that guy???
Dear all
After a long period I was the meaning, I can do something against this thief, I am now disapointed.
-These people here in the forum, which told me to help: I can't hear anything more.
-Ocean County Department of Consumer Affairs: I've written three complaints on: no useful response
-Complaint on BBB of New Jersey: No result
Christian
Quoted from Powerzone:Is it possible for me, to get in contact with a police departement there? How?
Hello all
After no really help, I decided to do all myself.
Some minutes ago I had a phone call with a nice women from the police departement. She explained me how to go on. It is an official thing, that means I dont need a loywer (at the moment) no costs for me ect.. I will act now as she explained to me and that will give a lot of pressure to Mike. Than we will see.
I will keep you up to date.
regards
Christian
Quoted from Mesmerism:I just got a reply from Ed McBride from Orange County Department of Consumer Affairs. He said he has no record of complaints. I thought someone had started a complaint with Ed previously in this thread? The only way to get back at Mike is to complain to the authorities until the state machine starts cracking down on him. It is useless to only complain here. Ed also mentioned that the postal inspector for mail fraud would be a good place to start. This also covers ups etc.
If you are a customer or vendor who's been defrauded by Mike, lets get together and email some of these state offices together so they realize there is a problem.
I can not belive!
I wrote at least 4 complaints!!
Wrote a lot of E-Mails, some phone calls!
Never became a useful answer!
Only very unfriendly answers with the linke to the complaint form which I filled all in at least 4 times!
regards
Christian
Quoted from futurepinhead:Would it be bad form to buy something cheap from his eBay account and start leaving him miserable reviews? I could use some Novus anyways. Get enough people to do it and it could hurt his eBay.
He deleted my account in his onlinshop, does not answer my e-mails, phone calls etc...
Now I wrote him a message via ebay!
Maybe he answer? 
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