What does the Country have to do with it? He's right, its a rambling shamble of 6 pages about being Santa Claus and overpaying for games and selling to the poor, etc, etc. When in reality, half of the people interested are going to buy and flip anyway, despite the fact they say they wont.

Funny. Most of my firework buddies in Ohio would stammer like fools for yuengling it was a silly from our pa neighbors but NOT in Ohio. Myself I am not a beer drinker but whenever the pa guys would come to an Ohio shoot. They always had extra yuengling in tow for the Ohio boys!!

P.s. Later it became available in Ohio. So now they are very happy!! Lol.

Are there no other machines for sale in the US? I cannot believe some of the people in this thread. I'm sure people will be creating multiple Pinside accounts just to buy more then the limit of 3. Between the vultures and crybabies I am disgusted by this community.

I appreciate what the OP is trying to do but after reading through this thread I come to the realization that no matter what he does there will still be plenty of people bitching. I wish he would just put them all on ebay and let the cards fall as they may. Then everyone has a fair shot, there are no limits, someone from tim buck two can buy it, nobody can bitch about missing for sale posts when because they are at work, etc.

If he just puts them on eBay, then a select few could just snap them all up. He would probably get more of a return, but the community would likely see less of any benefit.

I suppose if I was in his shoes, I'd probably do a weekly listing of what was for sale at that time. Everything on the list would be listed as "best offer" and interested buyers could PM their best offer. After a week, the best offers wins, and the next list of machines go up. Buyers would have X number of days to respond and complete the deal and pick up the machine. Second best offers would be notified that they are next in line and may be called upon if the first buyer backs out. Repeat as necessary. Any machine that didn't get an offer just goes to eBay.

If you put in an offer, you are committed to that offer. Backing out would prevent you from making other offers...(although a reasonable excuse may be allowed, if it's creditable enough)

People that want to buy multiple machine can place offers, but after winning say three, they would be restricted to only getting more machines *if* no one else made an offer on a machine.

Just my $.25

I'm scratching my head on this one, boys.

OP, why make this so complicated?

Select a price you want, post it for sale.

Post them when you have time.

Sell to the first person that matches your price or offers you a best offer you're okay with....along with giving a non-refundable 25% deposit... or give 2 days to pick up.. you choose.

Solution to no problem solved.

If he has anything off my wishlist and I can get it, I have no problems working something out and hauling other games back and dropping off, if you are on my path from PA to SE WI.

That solves my issue with time.

We can do a 53' trailer. Can get one and drive it to location. Rental and driving fee would be a few pins.

Your best plan as stated is rent a proper 30 foot truck or tractor trailer if needed, pickup up the machines, correctly inventory, evaluate, and then prepare the sale. Rent proper long term warehouse storage after initial transport.
Do not leave the machines on the original site after negotiations.
Use local trusted collectors to assist you with pickup and technical review, not flippers coming out of the woodwork that cheerfully state that they "want to help".

You should already be considering overhead costs.

You cannot sell games that you have not evaluated.
You cannot evaluate games without proper space.
You are looking to increase your headaches.

As an experienced container buyer, don't jump ahead in execution of planning, and do not make promises you cannot keep.
The number of people that way they "will buy" is never the actual reality.

You will need the storage space for management, proper evaluation, and sales for at least 2-6 months.

GLWS

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I've had an ongoing discussion with a good friend for a number of years debating whether one has to be an a-hole and screw others over to be successful financially in business. Basically - he believes your chances of financial success in business are directly tied to how big of an a-hole you are and your willingness to make unethical decisions. I don't agree. Several individuals we have known over the years who have earned a significant fortune while screwing others over -- have also lost their fortunes.

I believe in Karma -- and so it's always reassuring to hear a story about someone who "does the right thing" getting ahead!

Favorited your thread and hope you find some Alvin G's you'll be selling!

Unfortunately things never go as expected especially with all the things /stipulations that you / other sellers want to happen . Good luck with this huge undertaking and hopefully i get to come pick up a few machines from you at some point .

Warehouse Find - Carlisle, PA - Lots of pins for sale shortly - no list yet! ??? Why is there 7 pages of questions and answers? No pictures -lists of games or prices? Why was this posting put up???

For the hype!

To get the word out about sell to everyone.
I'm glad I got the heads up.

There are a few sellers on pinside that offer very fair prices on their games. Rockland pinball comes to mind off the top of my head.

When they have games, they list them for sale. . Period. A for sale list is posted for all to see and then anyone interested can send a message.

Keep it simple. This entire thread is so ridiculous.

I think the Op should have waited before posting anything. I truly hope this works out for him and everyone hoping to purchase from him but with out any machines actually in his possession this could turn out bad if things don't go as planed.

As far as selling possess not sure why this is so complicated, he has been selling for years and apparently the method he used has worked in the past. Set a price, take a picture and sell it to the person with cash in hand.

Funny he wants you to pay sales tax if your from PA.
OP "One last thing - anyone from PA picking up a machine will have to pay sales tax on it unless they provide me with a sate sales tax exempt form completely filled out for my files. Just "I have a PA tax number" doesn't help me - I need the signed form. (Been down that path before with the state and I am not heading their again!)"

He doesn't collect sales tax when he sells at Allentown. ??

Sure all the posters hoping to score a machine or two will not like my post but I truly hope it works out for everyone.

you layed the story down.. Now people want a list and some pics...even if there not available yet. you sound like a nice guy..but why put all this out there with no info. or pictures?

He doesn't have the games yet they are still in storage till he can pick them up.

Because Pinside is a discussion forum, that's why all the opinions and comments. If you don't need the drama, then you posted to the wrong forum.

You'll be needing to create a Marketplace ad for games when they are for sale and the photos will go into the ad. Then you can link to the ads in this thread.

FYI, you don't need a photo sharing service, just download the free Google Photos app and then you'll be able to post a link to any pics easily. Great app.

No need to explain to the public OP. You handle this the way you want to handle it. I'm a good ways away from you so i probably don't stand a chance but I will be ok with however you decide to go about the sale. Thank you for offering these back to the public.

When the OP actually posts pics or pricing information here that's when the real shitstorm will start.

There's lots of solutions. Try:

http://imgur.com/

If you register, you can keep it nicely organized too.

Heck if I were local, I'd put up the 50k so you could just get the whole wad at once. In exchange for first choice of 3 machines to be deducted from the payback

Eagerly awaiting this list. Told the wife about this and her eyes lit up. Fortunately I am about 3 hours from you. Means I could potentially make the trip during the week.

Well it's a classic case of "no good deed ever goes unpunished." Human nature really. If it's already bugging you than this is not going to be a fun process. Just don't worry about other peoples reactions and get busy selling your pins.

Way better in cans than bottles. Same for their Lord Chesterfield Ale.

This generation's version of Coors. It's beer. Nothing fancy, just not available everywhere so people worship it like it's the nectar of the gods. Apparently, it's coming to Indiana. Woo.

First had it at the Allentown show when it was pretty much a Pennsylvania thing. Thought it was an excellent beer in it's own right; I'm not driven by hype. Apparently a lot of people thought the same thing, and it really took off. Still love it, and it's a bargain for the quality. But, as I said, it's WAY better in cans than it is in bottles. Putting beer in a green bottle is the worst thing you can do to it besides pouring it down the drain!
Oh, and BTW, I remember when Coors first became available here on the east coast. It was overpriced, but a friend of mine bought some, and I immediately thought that it was nothing special. I do drink it today though (along with Yuengling) because the price/quality ratio is now more in line with other beers.

I don't drink beer so I can't tell you anything about it but I thought this post was about pinball machines for sale? Where is the list?

What I'd like to say is that I appreciate you wanting to leave your hoarding ways behind and get some pins into circulation.

I'll go to Pinball Owners website and look to see how many people own a particular pin and if they might be interested selling. Probably 70% of the owners will say their pin in storage and awaiting restoration and that they will NEVER sell it. And many of these forever-in-storage-never-for-sale hoarders have multiple pins listed this way.

So while I struggle to get a particular pin, someone is letting one rot in storage and no amount of money will break it loose.

So, thank you again for wanting to get some pins back into circulation.

Seven pages and not one pinball listed with a price! As the old loggers say, there's a lots of chips flyin' but no wood's gettin' sawed!
Just post a list of pins, rough condition, and the price you want. Then, as you get verbal commitments on games, go and get them. Or, if you are selling out of your collection, send some pics and finalize the sale.
If you are charging sales tax, expect to get a bit less for them as people will naturally take that into account with their offer prices.

Many collectors are not hoarders, they are "game rotators".
Once a collector owns more that 20+ machines, not considering projects, unless you have special provisions built into your home, you cannot fit them in a house, or least until it is planned to do so.
Most hardcore collectors can have around 30-40 in their house if their is a dedicated game room in say the basement.
Once a collector has over 50, things get really difficult.
I managed to have over 50+ machines in my collection in a 2600+ sf machine shop, and it is incredible to see the amount of space they take up.
Once a collector has over 100, there is no way to manage them in a standard home of any size.
Once a collector has over 250, you require a separate facility.
Once a collector has over 500, an actual warehouse is needed.
Once a collector has over 1000, you need multiple levels of storage and mediums of transportation, including a 30 foot truck.

I would not say many are letting them waste away, some are simply being protected from being "parted out" by people who would sell them for parts. Other games are used for reproduction purposes, which otherwise would not exist.

The same thing could be said for things such as backglass collections stored in racks and boxes, because I do not know anybody that has enough vertical wall space to display over 100 backglasses in one room in frames.

The "struggle" is one reason people stay in the hobby.
It is the big game hunter in all of us.

If you want to have a game "break loose" from a collector's hands, I will give you a professional tip:

Offer something in trade, particularly parts, playfields or backglasses which compensate for the value, not pure money.
Collectors want something that is hard to find too, not just cash in their pockets.
Cash has less value to those that have been doing this for a very long time.

Keep flipping.

Just wanted to say thanks to the original poster for this. Super interested in this as it might be a chance for some of us who are recently getting in to the hobby to get a machine. Hoping a few of my college addictions (No good gofers, who dunnit, junkyard, and World Cup soccer) pop up, but should be great for everyone.

As to the fairness issue I really like the lottery system like the stable marriage system that was proposed before.

Thanks again for doing this too many pins.

How great of deals are people expecting? And does anyone even know the titles or condition?

Steals, which they wont be. No and no, after 7 pages.

This is the best dam soap opera of the season; it is so bad but you just can't turn it off! I can't wait to see how this episode ends and am so looking forward to next years sequel! Buy another 100 pins and turn over the collection once again or maybe even test the waters about retiring and selling it all off. Hollywood could not come up with a better script! Now we even have sales tax for PA!

Great drama

No list yet is literally in the name of the thread. I am truly baffled by the majority of the posts in here, I thought things were spelled out pretty clearly.

Man, I hope the seller doesn't change his mind halfway through. I would find a way to get the 50k and get all the machines before the deal changes or falls through because he gets tired of meeting every time you have more money.