Fairview Park, OH
hey Ranhorton, I may be interested in a plastic. The middle plastic (above the "orcere" spot targets) is broken and the paint is chipping. How is the condition of your old one?
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Quoted from kyle5574:I maybe overpaid, but I'd do it again.
Doesn't sound like you overpaid . 9/10 on backglass and cabinet and fully functional , playfields can be restored and 6/10 on a sorcerer playfield accually sounds better than average , (mine was about a 3/10 ) . I'll have close to $2,300 invested in mine when I'm finished and a ton of time . Sounds like you got the better deal . I do enjoy bringing games back to life though and this one is a keeper for me .
I paid $1000 for mine fully working, playfield was decent compared to others i've seen, cabinet was a mess, backglass near perfect. I'll be in about as deep as trilogy, maybe more. Most expensive game in my collection and it's a pile of parts right now.
Quoted from ktrain315:hey Ranhorton, I may be interested in a plastic. The middle plastic (above the "orcere" spot targets) is broken and the paint is chipping. How is the condition of your old one?
They are in good shape.
Here's a post I did a while ago.
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/new-sorcerer-plastics
Quoted from trilogybeer:I got a drop target bank a while back from Korn , it was missing the flat bars on the backside that hold the targets in and I got those from Russ . When I started pulling the assembly apart so I could tumble the pieces I found that the plastic piece at the end of the coil plunger that resets the targets is broken .If you got one of those I do need one that isn't broken. If not Does anyone know where I can get one of those ?
Do you have a pic of what it generally looks like?
I'm not sure if I'm understanding your description.
Do you have a pic of what it generally looks like?
This is a pic , but the more I look at it it seems as though it was replacement part that someone made . Sounds like Neo will have the part I need though I'm going to head over to his place and see soon . Also Ranhorton did you get the sling coil issue figured out? I know on more recent games they did away with the diode on the sling coils .
Changed the thread tittle again . Please feel free to add, post , question anything Sorcerer related here . Post your pics ,Sorcerer Rocks.
I did get the sling coil issue resolved! Treveism came over last night for some pizza and beers and he helped me find the problem. Turns out I did fry the transistor when I soldered the diode on backwards. Stupid amature mistake. I would have never figured it out because for some reason the coil wasn't locking on during power up.
We removed and replaced the transistor and all is well with the world again!
Learned a lot from this little mishap.
I'm not recognizing that drop target piece but if you need the metal part that screws into the plunger and lifts all three targets I can send you my spare.
Quoted from Ranhorton:I'm not recognizing that drop target piece but if you need the metal part that screws into the plunger and lifts all three targets I can send you my spare.
Metal makes way more sense , the part that lifts all three targets is the one I need . The picture I posted was the piece that lifted the targets on the drop target bank I have(but it looks like a homemade piece, and I've never had this bank installed so not sure if it works I'm assuming it won't because the piece is broken and cracked) . I'll see if Neo has it first because he is close and I can just go over there some day and look , If not I'll PM about yours . Thank You.
Halifax, NS
Update on my latest restorations of playfields, last one getting finish clear coats. The last 2 playfields are over a year turnaround. It should be 3 - 6 months.
Quoted from trilogybeer:Also painted my drop targets .
That is pretty spiffy! Did you airbrush those and put some black around the edges?
Quoted from Kneissl:I never heard of painting drop targets.. what's that for?
Just to make them look different . These were faded and looked pink, I think these will look better.
Quoted from Billy16:That is pretty spiffy! Did you airbrush those and put some black around the edges?
Yes , the pic I posted isn't too good , but I think they will look good in the game . They are accually first painted with a coat of gold metalic , and then a red candy over that , and then a black pearl around the edges . The look really cool when light hits them , so when the game is on and lit up they will sparkle and look really nice . Also these aren't the first drop targets that I've painted and the others that I've done have held up to the abuse that they get .
Cabinet sanded , more filler work done , sealed, based and cleared . I clearcoart the base color This way any minor things that happen when stenciling the next two colors can be cleaned up with laquer thinner . This clearcoat will also get sanded before doing the stenciling .
Here's a picture of the front where I filled one of the holes , with clearcoat you can see that its nice and flat . Since I repaired this the way I did with the dowel and a thin coat of filler it won't shrink back . The clearcoat was sanded and I'm ready to stencil , I'll be doing this next week .
Ok I got my first stencils in position and ready to be applied . I measured from the bottom of the cabinet to the outline line to get position correct I measure the front middle and back to make sure its level. I also measure the outline from the front and back to make sure its centered . I tape the whole stencil on , I don't remove the backing at this point .
Quoted from Kneissl:i'm a week behind.. and glad I get to see how you do the stencils.
Off Topic, Sorry.....
Did you do the modification on the handle of your HF lift? Love it! Can you provide more details?
I think that is the nicest looking mod of that table I've seen. There are pretty good ones, but this is probably the cleanest. Would you mind posting a list of parts and maybe show a different angle of the welds when you get the time? Nice job.
Back to Sorcerer, does anyone know the differences between the L1 ROMs and the L2 ROMs?
And where is there a list of rules written up? I've seen plenty of rule sheets for other pins, but can't find anything on this one. The video game Pinball Hall of Fame: The Williams Collection goes over the rules really well and I was just wondering where they came up with the info.
I don't need the write-up, this is a pretty easy table to understand after a few plays, but I was curious why this table doesn't have this stuff readily available like others.
Just wondering for curiosity's sake.
Not much pressure is needed with speader , I want to avoid getting any wrinkles . air pockets are easily taken care of with a razor , I cut the transfer tape (not the stencil ) . Air pockets that are not near the areas geting stenciled will not be a problem . Once one half is done I peal back the second half and remove the backing and repeat the process .
When I remove the stecil I may get jagged part of paint that are just floating there (not all paint types will leave these) . I remove them using masking tape , wraping around my hand Sticking it to these and rolling them off ( when paint is dry ) . Also when using automotive paint the stencil can leave a little glue residue ( reaction from paint and glue ) this is easily taken care of with a PPG product DX330 , this is a degreaser that I can spray on cabinet and remove the glue residue without removing the paint , this also cleans up any loose flaky paint that is there from removing stencil . If you are using Laquer you really won't need to do any of this that I just said .
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