Sorcerer is at the tippy top of my want list. Can't wait until I find a nice one!

The guy I got this game from, had another nicer one and after playing his I realized this game is just as fun as I remember it as a kid. It was one of my favorites growing up. Very fast and a drain monster!

Anyone have a link to some nice instruction/free play cards? Thanks.

I recreated the factory instruction cards for my Sorcerer, they're a bit more correct than the Inkochnito cards. PM me with your email address if you want the PDF files.

Playfield stripped and on its way to John Greatwich! Next getting started on the cabinet teardown.

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Anyone have any idea the correct legs for Sorcerer? Were they originally black or Chrome? I can't find anything that shows for sure what legs go on a system 9 game. Also, did anyone use the Stern leg protectors and the beefed up leg brackets for inside the cabinet?

I used stern metal protectors, and sys 11 legs. I suspect they used the older legs without the groove.

Thanks, I figured that would probably be the way to go. I noticed that a few guys have black legs on the game now. It looks good, but wondering if that is how it came factory. Its funny because I want a set of leg for my Whirlwind also and Pinball lie doesn't list Whirlwind as a compatible game for system 11 legs. I know its a system 11c game, but I would think they would require the same legs. I am now wondering what the difference between system 11 and WPC legs are.

The groove in sys 11 legs stops halfway down, WPC and late sys 11 (whirlwind etc..) have a groove all the way.

The flyer shows it with flat (no groove) legs. Then again, the flyer also shows it with an unpainted coin door, which seems to be pretty rare.
http://ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=2242&picno=21261

From what I can gather, they started the run with the Silver Coin Door and started to use the painted black ones for most of the rest of the run. Mine is black. I could be wrong on this though.

I did these Free Play cards the other day, if anyone is interested in them.

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I would like your card for Sorcerer.

I'm not making or selling these, just sharing the file.

All things Sorcerer. That pretty much sums it up for me right now. Just picked one up and sent the playfield to John for his magic. The backglass is perfect and I have a new set of plastics ready to use. Now I am busy changing out all the corroded sockets and whatnot. My time seems to be split between working on Sorcerer and playing the other machines in the lineup. No complaints here...life is good.

I'll be doing my first ever tear-down in a few weeks to send my Sorcerer PF to John...

I'll open up a new thread for it and document my process in great detail.

It will be my first tear-down. All suggestions welcome.

If you can think of any tools that I might want to have around to make it easier, I look forward to hearing about it.

I just got a tumbler, so at least I'll have all the parts polished and ready when John's done.

-mof

My playfield should be getting to John within a day or two an I am going to document my progress on this thread, but probably not in detail. I'm glad a couple other guys are doing this also so that we can help each other out. I have already starting accumulating parts. Gonna tear into the cabinet really soon here.

I just got a sorcerer too. I'm watching you guys on the details. I'm going to clean and clear coat mine, it's in great shape. Thanks for sharing, ed

Good to see the sorcerer torch being carried on.

Can't wait until June in this thread...
There should be more than one CQ Sorcerers baring skin in here... should be hot !
-mof

Hopefully he is still taking reservations, I just messaged him to see if I could hop on the list as well.

For anyone doing a full restore on this game, I just ordered a new set of plastics for mine from PPS yesterday. Pick one up asap if you need one so you are ensured of getting a set. Never know when they may become unobtainium.

Ok, so I am tearing down my cabinet now and am getting ready to buy a sander. I am curious, Kneissl and Trilogy what tools you used to sand the cabinet? This is my first cabinet restore and I am wavering between an air sander and electric. Are either good choices? There is a nice Rigid 6 inch orbital sander at my local home depot for around $100, but it seems there are not as many choices for 6 inch sandpaper. Is a 5 inch a better way to go?

Just remember to sand your cabinet outdoors.

You will never get the lead paint dust out of your garage or basement.

Wear a real respirator $26 (not a "dust mask") while you work.

I thought lead paint was only used till the 70s

Commercially, lead paint was popular well into the 2000s.

Residentially it was used until 1978.

Pinball is a commercial vending machine.

In our lead abatement class, they said that lead paint is still found in commercial products to this day.

( and plenty of other products like window blinds, children's junk jewelry, lubricants, hair dye.....)

Thanks vid and trilogy. One more question now, What is the minimum pressure you need to run air tools? I have a compressor, but am afraid that it isn't powerful enough to do the job. Its just a 150 psi, 33 gallon tank.

It's more the VOLUME than the pressure. CFM - Cubic Feet per Minute

Your compressor will say how much it can deliver, and your air tools will say how much they consume.

Homeowner compressors tend to overstate their volume, and tools will understate their consumption.... so always get a compressor with more CFM than your tools say they require.

Thanks guys. I might start with an electric and do air down the road if I get more into this.

Cabinet and backbox have been pretty much stripped. I had not really noticed how much damage this game has attained over the years until I tore it down and really started looking. Apparently someone tried to break into this game as some point as the bottom where the metal piece was was just torn up on the edges.

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Someone spray painted the cabinet solid black and just for kicks my son and I lightly sanded a few spots just to see what we would find. I am not sure why anyone would cover up art that really probably wasn't all that bad in the first place. I am hoping this cabinet is not a lost cause as its pretty solid, but very rough and will need a huge amount of work. Hopefully with a little research I can fix it to where I don;t have any problems with it in the future.

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Trilogy, Funny thing is nothing is soft really. The depressions that appear in some of the under cab pics aren;t soft and I am pretty sure that the legs pressed that area in. The cabinet is very solid still, but you are right on the bottom the layers are starting to separate. With all of the money I am putting into the game I do not want to have a cabinet built. I know Vid had a site that sold pre-cut cabinets but when I went there they show themselves as closed for awile. Not even sure if they make a system 9 cabinet.

Just got my set. And it came with a bonus.

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I got my plastics Monday. Mine came with Jelly Bellies!

Just popped on craigslist la $900.
losangeles.craigslist.org link

That looks rough to me. Ed

Yeah, but it looks pretty good compared to most Sorcerers I have seen.

Not bad at all for a sorcerer.
Usually they're a lot worse!

Here's my 1,300.00 one. Ed

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I've asked homeowners why they painted their pins black.

They say that the game graphics and colors made it look "old and 1970s".

I got the black off of the front and now the artwork shows as seen in pics. It came out great,I guess it was cheap paint. Ed

I'll be starting into my Sorcerer this weekend for John... I'll create a new topic for it once I start.
Can't wait to get started...

Any guesses on what the entire time on task will be for a first-timer?

-mof

Cool, keep us posted. Ed

Roughly how many hours did that take you start to finish?
-mof

Got my cabinet stencils from Trilogy the other day. Thanks. Now it's time to sand and prep the cab. Hopefully I won't screw it up.