I bought a nice one not long ago for 2600 looked new huo and had all leds and a sub and lots of other mods . but for sum reason like blackbeard I didn't care for it much but unlike him im a huge pat L fan but something about it just didn't click with me so I sold it for 3100 and kept the sub and some other things it came with so it all worked out well.my friend just picked one up and I helped him go over it and adjust some things and played a few games and still its missing that something that tz, rs, taf, ngg do for me that it dont .