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Wanted: Paragon (Bally, 1978)

By tdiddy

8 years ago


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#1 8 years ago

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Wanted: Paragon (Bally, 1978)

Added: 2016-01-06 23:00:00 UTC • Re-listed: 1 time (February 22nd, 2016) • Ended: March 14th, 2016

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Looking for a decent players machine to restore. I would prefer not to have it shipped, I'm willing to drive around 5 hrs if necessary. Thanks ahead of time.


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#2 8 years ago

I have a sweet players quality paragon in Burlington vt. 100% working. New Alltek mpu and new rotten dog Sdu. It's an all around 8/10. Looking for trade 80s-current players quality machine must have at least 3 ball multiball let me know if you have anything for trade. I can pm you photos if your interested.

#3 8 years ago

Good luck with your hunt. One of my favorite Ballys from the era and I was lucky to find a really nice example.

#4 8 years ago
Quoted from V_piscopo:

I have a sweet players quality paragon in Burlington vt. 100% working. New Alltek mpu and new rotten dog Sdu. It's an all around 8/10. Looking for trade 80s-current players quality machine must have at least 3 ball multiball let me know if you have anything for trade. I can pm you photos if your interested.

Yeah I saw yours, it's just too far for me

#6 8 years ago

Good luck with your hunt diddy

#7 8 years ago

Paragon is a fun game. Best of luck in your search!

#8 8 years ago

We will likely have a pretty nice one for sale in Central PA later this year but I am going to be laid up for a couple months with a couple foot surgeries so nothing will be moving as far as pinball machines until at least May or so.

If you don't find one close to home and want to check in with me I a few months I am fairly sure that will be one of the machines getting sold this Spring or Summer.

#9 8 years ago

Bump

#10 8 years ago
Quoted from too-many-pins:

We will likely have a pretty nice one for sale in Central PA later this year but I am going to be laid up for a couple months with a couple foot surgeries so nothing will be moving as far as pinball machines until at least May or so.
If you don't find one close to home and want to check in with me I a few months I am fairly sure that will be one of the machines getting sold this Spring or Summer.

Definitely keep me posted, I've been on the hunt for a while and doesn't seem to be ending anytime soon

#11 8 years ago

annarbor.craigslist.org link

Came across this on CL....not mine and seems way high to me; I'm not a big paragon guy though so maybe not. Just passing info on

#12 8 years ago

Thanks for the heads up....I've talked to him and tried telling him he's way high. He's moved a little on the price but still outside the normal price range. I'll keep looking, thanks for the bump

#13 8 years ago

If someone pays 2k for a paragon I'm outta this hobby.

#15 8 years ago
Quoted from mjm697:

If someone pays 2k for a paragon I'm outta this hobby.

It's 1999 so no need to get out of the hobby .........yet!

#16 8 years ago

I just dont understand why this is so hard to find

#17 8 years ago

Parabump

#18 8 years ago
Quoted from meSz:

It's 1999 so no need to get out of the hobby .........yet!

I guess it's time to trade in the escort station wagon then huh.

#19 8 years ago
Quoted from tdiddy:

I just dont understand why this is so hard to find

Because when they do come up at a normal price they go quick.

#20 8 years ago

So, what is normal asking for routed Paragon?

#21 8 years ago

I would probably set 2K (or higher) as the 'ok, I'll sell it' price for my Paragon. The playfield is in stellar condition, the only issue with it is sunken inserts, otherwise it is the best looking Paragon PF I've seen and the BG is just about as perfect. For that alone I wouldn't let it go though I've got two friends with Paragons at a comparable level. They go around 1K in decent shape, or less if they need a bit of work, but it is one of Bally's best art packages, ever. To me it is the best art package on any Bally. Gameplay doesn't disappoint. Jack up the back a bit, wax it up and keep new rings on it and it'll surprise you with it's speed and the challenge. In reality, I see a good Paragon as really being worth around $1500 in solid, clean player's condition with a nice playfield. Compared to other games that are sometime seen as more collectible or rare Paragon stacks up with the best single ball games of the early SS era. I play it more than my Tommy if that says anything but I am a sucker for the early 80s Solid State games.

If you find a trashed one well under 1K, buy it and get on the CPR PF list. It'll be worth it.

#22 8 years ago
Quoted from mjm697:

If someone pays 2k for a paragon I'm outta this hobby.

I paid $3k for mine, sorry to see you go

#23 8 years ago
Quoted from DefaultGen:

I paid $3k for mine, sorry to see you go

I could see playing top dollar for a restored one. But I'm looking for just a regular old players machine that I can restore myself. Paying 1600 bucks for a players and throwing 1500 bucks into it doesn't make to much sense even if I know it's never leaving like most my projects.

#24 8 years ago

I sold the last Paragon I had for $1500 three years ago. The playfield was very nice, almost no wear at all around the inserts that were sunken like most of them have, and the original backglass was very nice as well, just barely starting to get some paint lifting in a corner. The cabinet had some scrapes and was faded real bad all over, not much color to it at all. If the cabinet colors were bright and wasn't dinged up I could've got $2000 easy. shimoda's right about gameplay. Waxed with new ringset they can be brutal to play.

#25 8 years ago

I can only imagine what a clear coated one would play like then

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#26 8 years ago
Quoted from DefaultGen:

I paid $3k for mine, sorry to see you go

Because Your an idiot. I have a good lead on a motor dome for 3500. And a hurricane for 5500 if your interested

#27 8 years ago

I'm game if it comes with a paragon at this point lol. What about a ebd and a paragon for my indy 500 people?

#29 8 years ago

You got to have patience when your looking for a specific game that you want. You got a thread here, did you post on RGP,Craigslist,? Have you said what your willing to pay for a real nice one that needs nothing? Shop out one of your games or work on a project while your waiting. Bump your thread every other day, people will see it.

#30 8 years ago

I have a friend of mine who has a very nice one who just did a full restore on it and looks great and is heavily considering selling it or trading it. It is located here in central North Carolina.

#32 8 years ago

Early evening bump.

#33 8 years ago

Crack o dawn bump for the early birds

#34 8 years ago

I don't get it??? The Paragon in Annarbor is $1600 and appears to be in decent shape. Sure you might find a better deal down the road if you wait for two years, but if you want it now, just buy it.

#35 8 years ago

May just be me, and I certainly haven't priced paragons, but isn't 1600 a lot?

#36 8 years ago
Quoted from Blackbeard:

May just be me, and I certainly haven't priced paragons, but isn't 1600 a lot?

It's just you, all games continue to rise and people are having a hard time facings the facts. Demand still out weighs supply in this hobby by a long shot. People are not letting go of their pins and they are filling up their basements. Look at the number of pinsiders that have 40 or more pins.........it's like 10-15%. This game is a classic and collectors want it. The other thing to remember is as playfield parts become available for these classics, I.e. Playfields, plastics, boards.....The price will naturally go up. This has happened to Paragon and many others. A $600-$1000 deal on Paragon may take years to find.

#37 8 years ago

Hmm. Op just passed on one in Vermont for $900 as the drive was too far for him. Had all new boards too.

Idk. I think they're out there.

#38 8 years ago

I generally follow this principle with pin hunting and end up in the "takes time" range. The center of the diagram happens once in a while when the planets align.

Good luck on the Paragon / EBD hunt. Two of the best early solid states!

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#39 8 years ago
Quoted from tdiddy:

I can only imagine what a clear coated one would play like then

Playing a perfectly flat clear coated Paragon playfield is an awesome experience... fast and awesome!

#40 8 years ago
Quoted from Sheprd:

Playing a perfectly flat clear coated Paragon playfield is an awesome experience... fast and awesome!

Yes it is...

#41 8 years ago
Quoted from thedarkknight77:

I don't get it??? The Paragon in Annarbor is $1600 and appears to be in decent shape. Sure you might find a better deal down the road if you wait for two years, but if you want it now, just buy it.

First this paragon is in ok shape minus the backglass that's held together with packing tape and bubble gum. We both have moved on our prices a little but still don't have a deal because I've pretty much reached my limit because of the glass and upwards of 300 dollars to replace it. Which would put me closer to another one I found with a mylar on the playfield from day one. This playfield is perfect, but I need to remove the mylar to clear, so then it becomes a crap shoot on what I'll have. The 900 one in VT is a great deal but to far of a hike for me, I cant justify 9 hrs one way, when I was on the fence about the one that showed up on ebay last week for 899 and it was 7.5 hrs away, but that glass was perfect.
And on top of it the one on ebay got stolen out from under me, so this quest become personal......how you ask.....I'll tell you, If I mention to one of my pinball brothers about a paragon on ebay in ny that I'm thinking about, and I just need to figure out how to get. This person should be the last person contacting the seller to end the auction and sell it to him. Then have the nerve to tell me and ask me to restore it. This guy is also my neighbor and a idiot when it comes to working on games. Needless to say he won't be getting any restore work or help from me anytime soon.

Remember

"Bro's before Pin's"

#42 8 years ago

I'll second patients. I posted an add on CL for black knight...had everything from MINT machines for 4K and basket cases inoperable for 2K. 2 months later found a decent repairable machine for a couple hundred...

#43 8 years ago

Forget the paragon and get a cat.

#44 8 years ago

I have one in NJ. Cabinet faded, but rest looks good.

#45 8 years ago
Quoted from mjm697:

Forget the paragon and get a cat.

Cats suck, I'm a dog guy. Our boxer passed last year and the wife won't let me get a new dog yet.

#46 8 years ago

Get a Yorkie. They fly!
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#47 8 years ago

Cats do not suck! And yes it appears that Yorkies do indeed fly.

Bump for a boring pin! I meant paragon.

#48 8 years ago

Bong bong Bing Bing

Bump

#49 8 years ago

I ended up finding the lockdown bar and made an even trade for a HS in comparable shape. Verry pleased with the deal. (Guy from vt who HAD a paragon)

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