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Wanted: Coil assembly for a 1956 Genco Circus

By TK2012

6 years ago


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    #1 6 years ago

    Looking for the piece that has a bakelite section for the fingers that hold the contacts which has the metal plate that gets pulled to the coil. Don`t know the name of the piece but maybe someone here could inform me.

    #2 6 years ago

    Photo?

    #3 6 years ago

    At the moment I have the machine by me.

    #4 6 years ago

    I have a Genco of similar vintage, and I'm happy to try to help, but I don't understand from your description what part it is you're looking for.

    Broadly, I've found out the hard way that Genco parts are very, very scarce. There are some substitutions that can be made, but other things that you'll probably need to make yourself if you can't track down suitable replacements.

    #5 6 years ago

    I have a box of odd old coils and relays. I might have something but would need a pic to match it up.

    #6 6 years ago

    It`s like a Gottlieb 8-Slot E/M Armatures with Insulated Arms but not plastic. There are bakelite insulated arms.

    #7 6 years ago

    Ah-- the bakelite with slots in it that the brass switch blades pass through?

    #8 6 years ago

    That`s the one drsfmd.

    #9 6 years ago

    I don't have a genco manufactured one for you, but let me look through the "junk box" and see if something from another manufacturer is close enough to work.

    #10 6 years ago

    Here is a picture of the coil area. Wonder if any one has this game or a genco state fair. To confirm another relay set up?

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    #11 6 years ago

    So you need the whole relay, not just the bakelite piece? What's wrong with the one you've got that can't be fixed?

    #12 6 years ago

    The bakelite just fell apart, I`m showing another one to get a picture not the one that broke so you can see it.

    #13 6 years ago

    Worst case you could make that piece with a bit of stiff non-conductive material, fiberglass circuit board, or perf board, or plastic. Many older pinball games used a thin hardboard/cardboard material (glue some cereal boxes together). Or possibly glue together the bits from the old one if it isn't too far gone.

    #14 6 years ago

    I`m going to try to rig a Gottlieb piece on to the plate and see if that will work. Glue would not hold. Does anyone have one of these games?

    #15 6 years ago

    As mentioned I have a bunch of relays and coils from that era. Just have to dig them out to see what's there.

    #16 6 years ago

    Dug a little bit briefly this weekend and have some old relays with bakelite plates, but nothing configured quite like your relay.

    #17 6 years ago

    Could you show some pictures Alex?

    #18 6 years ago

    Yeah, I can hopefully take some pics tonight. I have a shoe box full of 1940s-60s relays and another with the same era coils. Most of it I have no idea what it fits. It's just a matter of matching it up to something.

    #19 6 years ago

    Here's a couple pics. The relays that are in the separate pic have bakelite style switch plates. Not sure if any could be made to work. You'd almost need to match up the size side by side.

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    #20 6 years ago

    Thanks for the pics, those are different than what I need. Thanks anyway.

    #21 6 years ago
    Quoted from TK2012:

    Thanks for the pics, those are different than what I need. Thanks anyway.

    Except they may not be. It's a bakelite attached to a bit of bent metal. You aren't likely to find an *exact* fit, but if it's wide enough to accommodate your switches, and the distance between slots is the same (or very close) it will likely work. Do you have a digital caliper? Measure how many thousandths between slots-- that's the only number that really matters. Anything else can be cut or shaped to fit if it's wide enough for however many stacks of switches you need to accommodate.

    Edit: To add... if you really needed to do so because there's something unique about that relay setup, you could rivet a new bakelite to the exiting metal bit-- it's not that hard.

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    #22 6 years ago

    Im going with the rivet on the exiting metal piece. Still looking for the same relay set up if this doesnt work out.

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    #23 6 years ago

    Still looking for any Genco relays , went with the rivet an I`m not liking the action of it.

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