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Want a loud knocker?

By rufessor

6 years ago


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  • Latest reply 5 years ago by MrBally
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    #28 5 years ago

    Can someone explain to me the theory why this knocker is louder than the original? Something to do with DC vs AC? Thanks.

    #31 5 years ago

    Still doesn't explain to me why DC vs AC for louder knocker. I think I get what Tim Arnold is saying...make sure the assembly is tight to the cabinet, and remove 20% of the windings so the coil acts stronger, right? But the OP says convert to DC. That part I don't understand the theory. Is it because the full wave rectified voltage is higher than the AC RMS voltage and therefore produces stronger coil energy?

    #34 5 years ago

    Great! Thanks for satisfying my knocker curiosities.

    #39 5 years ago

    Knockers come in all shapes and sizes, right? Well have a look at mine and tell me if it looks normal. It is in my 1966 Bally Bazaar, showing in the power off position. When it knocks the plunger moves down only about 1/4" into the coil before it stops then returns to the upper position. It's not loud. None of my other knockers look/work like this. Oh, and I've unscrewed that brass stop and that doesn't help. Comments? Help?

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    #43 5 years ago
    Quoted from PinballPianist:

    This is indeed a common knocker. Bally used this type of knocker in EM games for many years. This model produces a gentle, double 'click' and is typically weaker than the Williams models.

    So I have an all original 1966 game, Bazaar, with this "gentle" knocker. Would it be a sin to replace it with a newer style that wakes up the dead? I mean, I get a thrill when I hear a loud knock....like I really won something. Or should I just accept it as the way it was back in 1966?

    #50 5 years ago
    Quoted from EMsInKC:

    If you run the screw up higher in the Bally Bazaar knocker, it will become louder. Bally knockers just have a different sound than the others. They have more of a click sound than the usual knock sound.
    The loudest knocker in my collection belongs to my Williams Ding Dong. When I bought the game, someone had removed the knocker so I replaced it with a Gottlieb knocker from PBR. It has to be the location of the knocker, back in the back left corner, and composition of the cabinet because this thing is way louder than my other Gottlieb knockers. It literally sounds like a hammer coming down on something. Whack!

    Yeah, Iv'e run the screw all the way up. Still not too loud, but I guess it's ok in my home environment. If it was in an arcade you wouldn't hear it. All Bally knockers are not like that. For example, my Hokus Pokus is LOUD! My Old Chicago is LOUD! I've been playing Bazaar every day. I'm getting used to the click-click sound.

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