:DJoust 2 the return. I know it's not on the list nor will it happen.

We don't even know if MB is really the next release! That being said the next logical choice would be CC. It could also be TOM based on other threads.

I vote for a new design next. It would be great to see a remake and a new game each year from cgc.

Not seeing Hollywood Heat on the poll...........................

I think it will be a remake a Big Bang Bar however Cirqus Voltaire would be really cool to see a remake.

With regards to Cactus Canyon I think that could be next also but doesn't the code need to be finished to make that game better?

I would love to have a brand new Indiana Jones remake sitting in my basement. Love that pin

What makes you think they have not already been working on a new game for a while now? CGC has made pinball machines before and comparing them to AP is a huge stretch. Games do not need to sell 15K to make money, stern and JJP prove that with every release. CGC invested a lot of money to get back into pinball so I really doubt they are looking at remaking 8 games and stepping away. CGC is not a small company and if anything has a huge advantage on other companies as they make the playfields and cabinets in house.

I would vote for new design. Remakes are great but want new blood.

So it's your opinion that a company that has been in the gaming industry for decades that builds cabinets and playfields in house and currently has a very successful production line building remake pinball machines with numerous upgrades at a fairly high volume cannot be successful with a new game release? They are connected with one of the larger part suppliers and have access to several pinball designers that have been out of pinball for a little bit. Vacation America was made at the worst time and wasn't properly thought out. They are building games every day that have features that people are looking for so assuming that they couldn't hire a designer and build off the remake momentum is pretty short sided. I'll gladly make you a wager if you want. I say cgc will have an original release in the next 3 years..

Or they could see an opportunity for a piece of the market and profit to be made. Stern and JJP cannot buy cabinets and playfields and price games the same as CGC. CGC has a distinct advantage in that area that allows for lower prices and higher profits. A good business strikes while the iron is hot rather then setting back saying we are covered for the next 8 years so lets just plod along and hope everything continues as is.

CC seems like a terrific candidate but the rules are really simple and would need to be updated. Too bad they couldn't incorporate CCC into the remake.

I think MBr or CCr will be next. Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s the latter, which would give CGC the platform to show they can create extended code. Either one would be great. Can’t wait to see the new enhancements on these great titles.

It's Cactus Canyon. No reason to vote, I'm telling you like it is...........

John

Well it is all but certain now it is MONSTER BASH for #3, leaks, pictures and more, all but the official pronouncement, which is imminent any day now. I would imagine that by now Ukranian first graders know MBR for the third slot is as certain as death and taxes. LOL!

But here's hoping Rick and company put that "average" THEATRE OF MAGIC on the back burner and proceed forward with CACTUS CANYON at #4 and BIG BANG BAR at #5. If Popaduik games are upcoming I'd hope the much better CIRQUS VOLTAIRE and TALES OF THE ARABIAN NIGHTS will come ahead of TOM in the order of succession. KING PIN and perhaps WHITE WATER would also be fantastic choices. (Note: All said here is a personal opinion. I recognize other people have their own and that's more than fair enough).

The 1st,2nd and third game are easy. Real easy if you ask the right person. But the 4th game after monster bash is harder. CC needs more work, BBB is a cap con game so at least a little more work. I can't imagine why they would build the JPOP games next. They could do Adams family but they made what 25,000 of those the 1st time around.

I agree that the first three games are easy, which is why I would be very surprised if game #3 isn’t MBr. That seems like such an obvious choice. After that I have no idea what they should do next.

Oh it's Monster Bash with some kind of lightning mod they decided to add right before TPF.

I think they should do SS to coincide with the rumored Elvira 3.

Rick sent me a list over a year ago of the next 7 targeted remakes. The first two on the list have already emerged. IJ was not on the list.

I think you make a very good point about Cactus Canyon. Doing a remake is one thing, but with that Cactus Canyon Continued mod floating around it raises the expectations bar. I honestly don't know if I would want a plain remake - even a bling'd out LE - versus buying a mod'd CCC with the deeper and more interesting gameplay. I feel that is the reason CC is farther down the remake list. It is one of the few pins that will involve something beyond your standard remake.

I also heard a rumor that at some point CGC will do an original title which would be pretty interesting. I feel they will have no shortage of demand for their remakes but I suppose at some point you need to try something brand new.

did i miss something?

It is in another thread - but there was a picture of the the CGC assembly area - and you can see a MB empty PF in the background. I think everyone expected the top 3 to be: MM, AFB, and MB so wasn't a real surprise. #4 seems to be the puzzle to figure out at this point.

or it's more propaganda and speculation.....

Is it noticed that it was the remake playfield or the original one?

Too difficult to tell from the photo; the reproductions are very close

So this is all about speculation and interpretation...all the more as in the other corner of the room there was an BBB playfield sitting there

Sequels are all the rage now.

So I'm looking forward to "European Vacation".

At this point in time it is has gone beyond speculation. I am expecting any week now to hear it is MONSTER BASH, though clues have been pointing to it for months now. The real question is what will #4 be? It could be CACTUS CANYON or BIG BANG BAR or THEATRE OF MAGIC. Odds seem to be it will be the former.

So, interesting thing. I have Pinball Arcade on Steam. There were 4 tables with the original release of the game; Tales of the Arabian Nights, Black Hole, Ripley's and Theatre of Magic. You then have Season 1 tables, followed by the subsequent seasons. From what I can tell, Farsight started with the most popular and iconic tables. Season 1 includes classics like MM, AFM, MB and CV. Cactus Canyon wasn't released until Season 2.

Obviously that doesn't speak to how CGC is laying out its remake schedule. However, if you go by rarity and popularity you could make a pretty strong argument that #4 is Theatre of Magic, with CC being farther down the list.

I just can't get my head around TOMr being a real money maker. You can still get a decent original for $5800. They change hands a lot so the secondary market will challenge new sales at some point. Finally you have to put up a real winner to compete with Stern, JJP and Spooky latest title. Logically CV, CC or TOTAN would be a better choice. I think a real winner for CGC would be a new title. But it also comes with increased risk of a flop and a flop at this point could take them down the road to ruin!

The only way to sell remakes of CV, TOTAN, TOM, SS ...is to improve their code.

Ok Wouldn't be cool if: CGC became a catalog pinball company. Would if you could order any of 8 remakes MM,AFM,MB,BBB,CC,CV,TOM and TAF. You order the game and they build it. So they would literally have game kits at the factory. The game kit would have: Populated Play fields, Cabinet decals, Translites, boards, wiring harness ect... The rest of the materials would all be the same: Cabinet, legs, glass, trim, transformer, speakers, DMD, coin door, ect... And no LEs. Just a thought!

Something original would be more interesting than anything in the list .

Could we get a link to that thread/photo please? Can't really find it.

look for the section
Is Monster Bash the Next Title From Chicago Gaming Company?
http://thisweekinpinball.com/twip-when-will-we-see-iron-maiden-monster-bash-beatles-license-alice-coopers-nightmare-castle-updates-more/

God I couldn't disagree more. The re-makes are of proven pinball masterpieces that many of us were unable to acquire. I favor 8 top 10 of these fantastic remakes before anything new is even considered.

If I were them I wouldn't even contemplate it. I currently have no pinball design team in place nor would I want to assume any of the overhead to build one up. I also would see no need to take the risk and absorb the cost of building a pin from scratch. Everything is already done and all I have to do is build a proven entity and rake in the cash? Sign me up... good business move CG.

I'd like to see PPS/Chicago Gaming remake CC with full CCC functionality... while simultaneously allowing/enabling Circus Maximus to build Kingpin.

Also relevant is the new Houdini by American Pinball which is similar in theme and looks to TOM. I love TOM, but if I could afford it, I would seriously consider a Houdini instead.