I don't want to thread-crap, but I just picked one up from MAD last week for $149 and I think he dinged me $6 for shipping on it.

Word. They are $149.00 + $6.00 shipping brand new. You're probably going to have to drop that price if you want it to sell...just sayin'....

I'd buy a used one for more than order from Mad any day.

So.....why is Marco charging $249 for a display Pinball life charges $149 for? Is their a difference between the them? Quality, visual, or otherwise?

Nope, they are both Vishays. The only thing I can think of is the recent supply hiatus, these won't be produced again for a few months. I don't see how PBL can sell them at a reasonable price, maybe they have stocked up now. PBL has been on and off with their availability of these lately.

I don't get it either. He is selling them for less than wholesale. I don't understand how he can do that. Marco sells them for $249 and I forget who the other one is but they are $229. Could Mad be getting them from China? Any other ideas.

Very interesting...

I've gotten one from PBL and it was a Vishay and worked great. I'm not sure...

I got mine from MAD two weeks ago, it was a Vishay as well.

Cause Marco charges out the ass for everything, which is why they are my last resort when it comes to buying parts. I going the following order when it comes to purchasing parts:

Pinball Life
Bay Area / Planetary Pinball
Mad Amusements
Anyone else I can think of who sells parts
Marco

In Marco's defense they do have a very nice selection and some very hard to find parts, however for the common parts you can buy at other vendors they will likely cost more at Marco.

Based on what I have heard, it is a matter of time before these are discontinued from suppliers. Hence the recent up tick in prices. Its signaling the beginning of the end. I heard that a short while back and bought a back up display just for that reason. With the color DMD on the way, two backups now.

According to Vishay (I personally spoke to their sales department) there are no plans to discontinue this item. They are currently out of them and have a 12-14 week lead time. Eventually they will bite the dust though. It's an outdated technology and they can't be sold in Europe cause they are not RoHS compliant.

I just ordered a display from Mad last week, $139. Was also wondering if it was some other manufacturer and of lesser quality, good to hear I'll be getting a Vishay.

Does anyone know what the reason was for the supply hiccup?

They moved their manufacturing facility and were down for almost a month.

Now that they're in Mexico maybe that will eliminate some overseas charges, not that their prices were unreasonable to begin with.

That, or they just don't want to make them anymore!

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:B-omORTZByIJ:www.ttieurope.com/object/io_1351175284372+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESj8cqDAvjbJsTasx3g1Vp0B-ZDCaGmQaI0jSceBvEbvmGpfm67GCUFBcMiHt8q9ofDZyCYS_bkwkqcIgN7HBpUzB55RdmxZzNPmN4gXUcdjcY8Y7_2lBtGuVdbWfyZnlanN7PLw&sig=AHIEtbSzCYlI66piMW8Kn5-yWzhKnOdhWg

Sorry. Didn't meant to imply that I didn't believe you. I've just heard that they are looking to cease production of these eventually and are limiting their productin cycles for them.

Which is also true, just clarifying.

The fact that these prices may go up in the future, they can't be sold in Europe, and that they may be discontinued in the near future are all GREAT reasons why ColorDMD needs to make a non-game specific, single-color-selectable-only display for the masses at a lower price, like $200. They'd come in at a great price point and offer a premium service in being able to use more than just the standard orange color on your pin. You can color match it or do whatever you want.

To me, this is a no brainer. I really have no idea why they don't come out with this at that price. It requires no extra time to color animations and no extra coding for a particular title. It's a super simple plug and play. The only reasons I see them not doing this is to preserve product exclusivity and keep their premium price point. If those aren't their concerns, they're missing out on a massive amount of sales by not offering this.

Completely. I would have ordered one this weekend if they had a white one.

Homepin already has them beat, we will start seeing white LED DMDs with color filters late this year and I'm pretty excited. I would rather have a true LED DMD than an LCD because of contrast, brightness, and color depth. And these panels are single modules so that means no gridlines. Individual LEDs will be easily replaceable with a bit of soldering. I'm surprised this news hasn't gotten more attention. Since we need displays (any displays!) for our outgassing route games and plasmas are not ideal at the moment I'm not concerned about it being just a single color. A modern plain old DMD replacement that's affordable and looks as good as original plasmas is years overdue.

http://www.aussiearcade.com.au/showthread.php/56674-STOP-PRESS-New-Homepin-LED-DMD-in-early-development

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Agree 100%!

Any idea on the price point?

He's aiming for the current price point at the moment (around $249) but sub-$200 prices should be possible. If he starts an Indiegogo funding project and runs off 5,000 units I can see that happening.

There is a Vishay company about 1 mile from my house here in Malvern PA.

Are they the same co.?

RM

@ sub $200 I would get one for all of my (non-LED DMD) machines if quality was comparable to plasma. That is, assuming they are white with changeable color filters.

They will be white with filters.

I mentioned it a few posts up, lol.

That sounds quite doable, mainly because there won't be any gridlines. I would also assume it'd be very low voltage for power, lower than a ColorDMD's even. I just hope the LED's won't be too bright, though. Glare and reflection of the glass is bad enough already.....

Sounds promising!

He didn't mention any specifics but I assume the brightness will be adjustable. Anyway we need to stop derailing this thread, continue discussion here:

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/x-pin-please-make-large-192x64-dmds

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