I love how versatile these virtual pins can be. I had this mini 1/4 scale Black Knight 2K themed machine built by Facebook builder Scott Sloan, the craftsmanship is amazing! It has a coin door that opens and working virtual plunger, runs off a NUC 8i5. For those times when you need to take your pinball with you!

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I really wish they would offer a display upgrade or use a different monitor all together for the Ultra VP machine . That industrial grade (LG) 4K 60hz playfield monitor that comes with it is very low quality. It should be hanging on the wall of an airport lobby displaying CNN instead of being used in a upper spec Vpin. If I’m spending that much coin I’d expect the most important part of the machine to use the highest quality displays available, not the cheapest.

Why take it up with Roland….he is very aware he is using a sub par monitor for the playfield to maximize his profit margins. I’m letting other people know these displays are terrible for virtual pinball. No angle viewing is a complete deal breaker for a playfield display. These are monitors are used in dentists offices and airports, not a dedicated gaming machine. For that price you could have added a proper gaming monitor or at least have the option for 120hz upgrade. It is a must have for a high level spec Vpin, especially if you are paying NIB pinball prices. I don’t mind spending 8k on a pinball machine but I don’t like getting charged LE prices and getting a Pro level spec machine which is exactly what you are getting with the Ultra VP.

Very true not only do you get smoother ball movements with double the refresh rate(120hz) but you can also can do real pinball moves more reliably/repeatedly like live & drop catches, post & rolling passes etc. The smoother movements really make the virtual experience more realistic, at 60hz you tend to get a lot of ping pong action with the ball.

LG is a good brand but the particular model they are using for the playfield is not suitable for this kind of application. It’s limited to 60hz which is not a deal breaker by itself but the fact that it doesn’t have angle viewing is. It only has a clear crisp image if you stand directly in front of the monitor, moving off center you get a nasty white haze across the screen. Meaning if your playing pinball and you have someone watching off to the left or right they are getting a ghosted out view of the playfield. It’s not something you’d want in a high spec Vpin.

RRW is the only company I know of offering an oversized 49” playfield monitor. I don’t believe there is any company making a 120hz in that size as of yet. The Asus ROG 120hz is the gold standard for gaming but the largest size I believe is 43” which is a few inches shorter than a real standard pinball playfield but very close to the correct width.

I update tables on my machine every 1-2 weeks to keep up with all the new releases or improved versions, takes all of maybe 10 minutes and I’m a complete novice when it comes to the software side. The reason to update your own tables is for personalization. Sometimes when a new modded version of a table comes out, you might prefer the older one or vice versa. By doing it yourself you can choose to keep both or delete the one you find inferior. I wouldn’t want to leave that choice in someone else’s hand, their preferences are going to be different than yours.

I can give you about 700 reasons why. That 48” 4K monitor looks up to spec for a 60hz display. At least it has a gaming mode (G-SYNC) and unlimited contrast (angle viewing).

I would use the Baller Installer guide. It’s an all in one solution instead of having to download and configure multiple programs. I have a firm understanding of the hardware and cabinet construction involved but the software can be daunting depending on which front end you select. Once you have it set up correctly tho adding new tables is easy and not very time consuming at all. I have probably 1500 tables I maintain on my full sized Vpin.

The video of Scantron5K’s RRW Ultra VP that gregh43 posted on the last page shows terrible hazing when viewed off center. Scantron5K even mentions it near the end but not a deal breaker for him obviously. Here are the stills showing the loss of contrast when he’s off center and not all the way across the room either. Granted I’m sure his phone is making it appear worse on camera than in real life as these things tend to do, but either way it’s still bad and not up to par for a high spec machine.

First pic is on center and color/contrast is fine, next few are taken as he moves off to the left and mentions the white haze. Clearly you can see the loss of color & contrast as he’s just standing next to his RRW machine. This is why unlimited contrast(angle viewing) is a must have for your playfield display and backglass.

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The loss of contrast on the playfield display/backglass isn’t going to effect the player standing right over the machine, it’s anybody viewing from off center. It’s just old cheap tech & shouldn’t be used in a virtual machine at this price point. I have an Asus ROG 120hz in my full sized Vpin and it’s really eye opening after coming from playing 4K 60hz machines. Not only do you get richer colors and angle viewing but the most significant feature is the superior refresh rate of the 120hz monitor. It translates to more realistic, smoother ball movements better akin to real pinball physics. At 60hz you get a lot of ping pong action with the ball, at 120hz you can pull off real pinball moves more consistently and accurately, like post passes, drop catches, rolling passes etc. I’ve even see airballs hit the glass so to speak. It really takes the experience to the next level.

I also use a 32” LG HD for the backglass. As you tell by ronaldvg pictures the Asus is worth every penny!

There are a few like turn key makers like Xtreme Gaming Cabinets, they off a fully loaded Vpin with the range topping Asus 144hz monitor paired with a 3080 card & all the bells and whistles you could ask for. Only problem they are an Australian company and orders take 6+ months for construction and delivery…., but they build it from the ground up with some of the best components. With the exchange rate its comparable to buying a premium NIB pinball including overseas delivery. Check out their videos on YouTube, you won’t be disappointed

I have a 2n1 premium Vpin from them, their customer service is top notch. My machine did take 6 months to build but it was worth the wait for a true plug and play unit with reboot back to default. I haven’t had a single issue with my Vpin in nearly 1 year of ownership & it gets played nearly everyday for hours. You don’t pay in full until your unit is ready to ship at least I didn’t with my machine.

Hey Jim this is Dani from the EHA Facebook group if you didn’t notice already. I can’t wait until you get your machine my man, it’s gorgeous and a beast with that 144hz/3080 combo! I paid about $1,500 total for delivery to Sonoma County, $1300 was Vangaurd’s shipping cost & $200 for California use tax but that was last November.

I paid about 8K total for my XGC Vpin with overseas delivery, not cheap but it has been worth every penny spent!

Xtreme Gaming Cabinets offers a plug and play 4K 120hz system with a reboot to default frozen drive. It works as it should every time even if you screw something up you just restart your machine and fixed!

XGC build their cabinets 100% in house, compared to RRW who buys pre made cabinets from China. In have a XGC and 2 of my buddies have the Ultra VP. My premium machine was a few grand cheaper (at the time of purchase) and has 120hz display and 3000’s series video card. The programming is locked down on the XGC, with reboot back to default mode it works every time and there is an open part of the drive that is fully customizable for adding new tables. It’s idiot proof basically for those who don’t know their way around VPX and all the other programs needed to make it work. RRW world does make some nice machines but they are pricey and under spec’d compared to the competition. Plus if you screw up something you need to get tech support instead of just rebooting the machine. For me the biggest gripe about the Ultra VP is the crappy 4K 60hz CNN airport monitor that they choose to use as the playfield display. The whole virtual experience is built around the playfield, angle viewing should be considered minimum spec for a playfield display, especially at that price point.

The biggest con right now against XGC is the wait time for a machine. With the backup at the ports people are waiting 9-12 months for their builds unless you are air freighting, which obviously is a more expensive option.

Each XGC machine has 2 drives, 1 frozen default drive and another cloned open drive that is fully customizable. I’ve updated to VPX 10.7 on my system with no problems & have all the latest releases. It’s possible to unfreeze the default drive and refreeze as well. My system has been turn key for about 18 months with zero issues and I play it alongside my real pins daily.

I have one and it’s an amazing machine, zero issues after 18 months of ownership. I like the fact the cabinets are built in house, quality of the construction, components and wiring is top notch. Closest your gonna get to plug and play. The major negative is the long wait for a build (due to popularity) & shipping fees which is around $1,800 to USA. It’s not uncommon to wait 9+ months for a machine.

Xtreme Gaming Cabinets also offers laminated plywood option($150 upgrade) but their cabinets are made in house not assembled in China.

Thanks PanzerFreak that would be me. The Asus monitor screen measures 38.5” and the Pinbot playfield is 40.5”, exactly 2 inches shorter. When you are playing the machine you don’t notice the difference at all, it’s accentuated on video due to the arcade control panel….the playfield monitor is mounted farther into the cab to make room for the arcade joysticks & buttons.

Not if you are playing in VR , move around all you like, walk around to the back of the machine and read the Williams serial numbers lol

Thanks, it’s fun to see how close these digital recreations are to the real thing. The XGC Vpin has been a great addition to my game room, it gets played almost everyday in a room full of real machines

Maybe in video but not in person 43” is definitely the sweet spot for what’s available currently. 2 of my friends have Ultra VP’s with the 49” screen and it feels like a Franken pin compared to a even a wide body cabinet. 95% of the Vpin tables are standard size and feel bloated on the 49” monitor but if you are a stickler for those handful of wide body tables it definitely does look/feel more authentic in that aspect. Best way is too see both sizes in person to make the determination for yourself. For me having a large collection of real machines to compare them by I would go for the 43” option, especially if it’s an Asus ROG monitor!

I’ve had my XGC Vpin for 2 years now and have been very happy with my machine. The 43” Asus 120hz display is definitely the sweet spot for playfield size. 49” is way too big and makes the cabinet feel like a frakenpin even compared to a wide body.

Having a 120hz display makes a huge difference in gameplay, with 60hz the ball tends to ping pong around the playfield. With 120hz you get far more realistic ball motions which translates into more ball control…..far easier to post pass, live catch and preform real pinball moves with 120hz.

I own one, great machine, best builds on the market imo. The only caveat is the long wait time and they go against community guidelines with pre loaded tables/software on their machines.

Well over a year from last I heard….mine was worth the wait but it was torture.

I’m more worried about damages on my NIB Sterns……XGC machines are crated like Fort Knox but shipping containers do fall off the boat haha.

They have no plans to build Vpins from their US business side, that will be multicades only unfortunately. The wait was worth it for the build quality and programming that goes into these machines. Typically it costs $1600-2k for sea freight shipping from Australia to USA, something to keep in mind when comparing prices.