Viper Night Drivin'
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I also have just purchased a VND and had similar questions. A pinside member named Viper is really into the game and answered mine. Hopefully he will see this thread or you can PM him. Look at the threads about the new glow balls as he has posts in there.
Quoted from tamoore:I'm not sure if my machine had this kit or not, but I never had a stuck ball up there.
It was just exceedingly slow coming out of the pops. I think this is one of the reasons I was able to let it go. I really didn't like how the feed from the pop felt....
Good to hear about not getting stuck. Interesting about the slow out of the pops.
Quoted from Hot_Rod_Grille:Powered up my VND last night and after about 3 or 4 minutes of play the DMD went "blank" and had a couple of horizontal lines in the middle of the display. The game still worked as usual but no display. Any one else had this problem? Any ideas where to start looking for the problem? Thanks for any help.
Hope you figure it out. There is a display on ebay right now for $300.00 if you determine you need a new display. Not mine , just giving you info.
Quoted from viperrwk:I'd trade you for mine but the distance just doesn't make it practical. Plus I have a few enhancements on mine that I prefer over stock (different cars, pop bumper caps with the three different Viper logos, clear neon on the ramps, different color standup targets, backbox warming filter, glare guard on the DMD, three Pinball Pro speakers, third amp, under cab and backbox lighting, license plate topper, Invisiglass, "Rock Me" launch button, all LED lighting) and a mod in progress (turning off the backbox light in multiball).
Nonetheless, one of the few times I would say wish you were closer.
viperrwk
Would love to see some pictures of your mods.
Quoted from Whysnow:Very easy on this game. Desolder the battery holder and pop in the NVRAM into the correct spot. No need to even solder on this board as the chip is already socketed.
Do you have to desolder the battery holder? Couldn't you just remove the batteries? I've done this on a few other shames with socketed MPUs.
Ok, rear black light would never came on so replaced starter and ok. Tried to replace relay board at bottom of cab on black light control board to fix my other problem.
My other problem was intermittent black lights.
For some reason new relay blew F7. Put old relay board back in and made sure connections were snug. Black lights are now working. Don't understand but happy they are working. Maybe loose connection but still not sure why new board blew fuse.
Hope this helps someone in the future.
Quoted from MJW:Ok, rear black light would never came on so replaced starter and ok. Tried to replace relay board at bottom of cab on black light control board to fix my other problem.
My other problem was intermittent black lights.
For some reason new relay blew F7. Put old relay board back in and made sure connections were snug. Black lights are now working. Don't understand but happy they are working. Maybe loose connection but still not sure why new board blew fuse.
Hope this helps someone in the future.
Running 2.01
Quoted from PoMC:Some fun, simple mods I did to Viper:
Added a Hot Wheels viper to the empty plastic on the bridge out ramp - my stepson actually had one up in the attic with all his old Hot Wheels cars. Adding another one back in the corner too.
UFO next to the mountain on top of the gate. It's painted with UV paint and glows nicely in the black lights.
Viper snake head on the shooter lane. It's a piece of a He-Man Snake Mountain toy from the 80s that I bought for $4 on Ebay. The yellow was painted over with UV paint and I'll add a spotlight with a UV bulb to aim at it for better glow in the dark action.
Added glow in the dark Titan rubber to the flippers, slings and posts. Will add the other rubber another time since ramp removal is needed to reach the other rubber.
American flag on the left blacklight fixture. Free decal I had from somewhere.
Added mirror blades since I had a spare set, but will remove if/when I need them for another game. What would look better is the Mustang pinblade artwork with the horses removed. Desert backdrop matches the translite nice.
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Are you flipper rubbers also glow in the dark? Where did you get them?
Quoted from PoMC:Some fun, simple mods I did to Viper:
Added a Hot Wheels viper to the empty plastic on the bridge out ramp - my stepson actually had one up in the attic with all his old Hot Wheels cars. Adding another one back in the corner too.
UFO next to the mountain on top of the gate. It's painted with UV paint and glows nicely in the black lights.
Viper snake head on the shooter lane. It's a piece of a He-Man Snake Mountain toy from the 80s that I bought for $4 on Ebay. The yellow was painted over with UV paint and I'll add a spotlight with a UV bulb to aim at it for better glow in the dark action.
Added glow in the dark Titan rubber to the flippers, slings and posts. Will add the other rubber another time since ramp removal is needed to reach the other rubber.
American flag on the left blacklight fixture. Free decal I had from somewhere.
Added mirror blades since I had a spare set, but will remove if/when I need them for another game. What would look better is the Mustang pinblade artwork with the horses removed. Desert backdrop matches the translite nice.
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I sent a PM to joe raptor to see if he could make the side blades with just desert background and not the running horses. I'll post back if I get a yes reply. I would also take my mirror blades off if these were avail. Desert background would really match the game as you pointed out.
Check this thread. There was an owner who posted a picture of his machine without the light covers. This inspired me to do mine the same way. Looks much cleaner and light shines better as most covers areg old and hazy. Never had a problem with balls hitting the bulbs. The way he moved the flashers also looks way cleaner. I deleted the long posts to make it even better. If you can't find his post PM me and I can take some pics.
Looking for some help from viper owners. Blackilights sometimes work and sometime don't. Can't command them on and off in test mode .Bought replacement relay board but when installed it blows fuse F7 for low power coils. I noticed original board did not have the red resistor shown in pic so I cut it off to see if that made a difference . Fuse still blew with resistor cut off .Transistor for relay is #23. This transistor seems to be bad as I get tone if I put a lead on ground strap and the center tab if transistor. It's a tip 122. Can a viper owner please verify that there is a red resistor attached to their black light board in a working game. I am going to replace the transistor but don't want it to fail if the resistor is needed.
Weird thing is that black lights sometimes work with original board. If the transistor is bad wouldn't they be on all the time or not at all? I'm assuming it's like a coil where there is power at all times at the relay board and the transistor just completes the ground circuit.
Quoted from goatdan:Did you replace the bulb starters? I had the same sort of issue when I first got mine, and replacing the starters for like $1 fixed it after a ton of hair pulling...
Thanks for the reply!!!! I have some spare starters I can try. Wonder if thers a way to test them outside the game. You had the same exact symptoms ? Could you please check to see if your light control board on bottom of cabinet has the red resistor?
Quoted from goatdan:I wish. My Vnd is at a friend's warehouse with about ten of my machines at the moment waiting for me to finish my gameroom.
It has been there for more than a year.
And yeah, it was the same symptoms. Black lights would light slowly or not at all. Nothing I did seemed to help. Really placed the bulbs, fiddled with swapping positions... A friend suggested that it might have starters.
Like a buck worth of starters later, everything worked again.
Ok. Thanks for the input. Much appreciated....
Quoted from ccbiggsoo7:I need parts if anybody has some!
I have used black light covers ...
Quoted from goatdan:Yeah, trust me - 99% chance the bulbs and / or starters are dead, and a replacement will make them work.
I'd love to replace the bulbs with some LED versions. The game turns them on and off a bunch, and they fry from regular use because of that.
There’s a setting in menu to have them on at all times. I use that. Seems easier on the game.
Quoted from ruzeo:Not sure if no Viper Night Drivin' owners exist or all too ashamed too admit it. Missing a raccoon and couldn't find repro ones anywhere so I am making some myself. Will post progress pics if anybody is interested in replacing theirs as well.
I would be in for some spares. Would they be painted or plain? Cool you taking up this project. These are hard to find.
Quoted from ruzeo:I've got alot of model paint lying around, doubt I will match the colors they were but I do have one raccoon to make a good mould. No idea how much they will cost to make but I will also put all my step by step instructions in case anybody wants to make their own.
Oh sorry. Ok. I misunderstood. I thought you were going to offer them for sale.
Quoted from MJW:Thanks for posting. Where are the side return ramps? Or do you mean black light covers? Those are very clear and hard to find.
Quoted from MadMaxDad:Sorry, my mistake, I just have the covers in the photos.
Someone was looking to buy those awhile back. Yours look very clear and not hazy.
Quoted from C65Mustang:The raccoons I am sad to say already got bought awhile ago but the other items I should have. the ramps aren't NOS but I can clean them up and provide detailed pictures if you would like.
Ok thanks for your reply. If you would like please send picture and price. I’m looking for the center ramp mostly. Found a NOS right ramp and left ramp decent. Want to try another black light relay board as my black lights are hit and miss. .. thanks.
Quoted from HighProtein:Testing new LED blacklight
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Had same issues with factory black light. Added black light to back and black light strips on apron . The ones on apron really make the flipper UV area pop.
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That would be sweet but with such a low production game I don’t see how they would do it.
I did mention it to Randy when I had them on the phone for other questions.
He pretty much agreed not enough interest due to low production.
Who knows though.
Quoted from V8haha:Looking for cabinet decals. Looks like their may be an option over seas but hesitant to spend 270 on decals from a company over seas.
Also looking for raccoons if anyone has a lead
There was an old thread of a guy who was going to make reproduction raccoons but it went cold.
Quoted from ZedMcGlunk:Proud new owner of a VND I picked up at the museum auction this month. Took delivery today, everything started up fine. Got about 10 games in then something happened.. a ball is stuck in each hole under the raccoons. At the same time the black lights stopped working so I assume it’s related.
I’m a total noob - any advice how I can troubleshoot and fix this?
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Hopefully game came with a manual.
Check all fuses for continuity and see what fuse is for those two holes.
After that you can go into diagnostics to make sure the switches are activating and the game knows the balls are there.
Quoted from MJW:Hopefully game came with a manual.
Check all fuses for continuity and see what fuse is for those two holes.
After that you can go into diagnostics to make sure the switches are activating and the game knows the balls are there.
I see no playfield lighting. Are you sure the game is getting power? Is anything working?
If not check main in line fuse located in the box with service outlet bottom right front of cabinet.
I would do a visual of your right vuk coil to see if it’s anything obvious. See if it moves freely or is stuck.
You could also test the coil
If you get no responses on this thread you could start a brand new one asking for help. There are guys on Pinside that are good at troubleshooting and willing to help.
Facebook also has a pinball repair group that you could join and ask for help.
I just know the basics.
Quoted from MJW:Also it’s nice to have a circuit breaker with same amps so you don’t go through lots of fuses as you troubleshoot.
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fuse 7 . Follow where it goes and what low power coils all use it .
Right VUK is not powered by fuse 7.
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fuse 7 . Follow where it goes and what low power coils all use it .looks like black lights use same fuse.
Right VUK is not powered by fuse 7.
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Quoted from ZedMcGlunk:Thanks again for your help!! I think I've narrowed it down to something with the flash lamps. Unplugged J6 and replaced the F7 fuse and suddenly the VUKs and all coils to work again.. Plugging J7 back in makes the 3 flashing blue lights stay on constant and I think eventually blows the fuse, so apparently my problem is within one of those lights..
Nice . Hope you figure it out.
Best I could get. Next to a dryer. Lol
Curious how your cards will look. You always do good work.
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I have 7 car pins in a car themed basement.
Always wanted a Indy 500 though.
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