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VID's Quick and Dirty Rotisserie Guide


By vid1900

7 years ago



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    Post #1 What is a rotisserie, description and supplies list. Posted by vid1900 (7 years ago)

    Post #2 Step One: Drill & tap sides. Posted by vid1900 (7 years ago)

    Post #3 Step two: Drill & tap tops. Posted by vid1900 (7 years ago)

    Post #4 Step three: Form the axle. Posted by vid1900 (7 years ago)

    Post #5 Step four: Assemble the knob. Posted by vid1900 (7 years ago)

    Post #6 Step five: cut and assemble the perforated angle. Posted by vid1900 (7 years ago)

    Post #7 Step six: finish the legs. Posted by vid1900 (7 years ago)

    Post #18 Clamps for attaching playfields to the perforated angle. Posted by vid1900 (7 years ago)

    Post #24 Leg leveler idea. Posted by vid1900 (7 years ago)

    Post #66 Playfield sizes. Posted by vid1900 (6 years ago)

    Post #79 Variation using plywood ends instead of perforated angle iron. Posted by jgreene (6 years ago)

    Post #120 Video demonstration on using a rotisserie. Posted by vid1900 (5 years ago)

    Post #144 Link to a video on how to remove a playfield. Posted by lb1 (4 years ago)

    Post #170 Link to a wooden design. Posted by vid1900 (4 years ago)


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    #48 6 years ago
    Quoted from vid1900:

    Although woodworkers have been using the pipe rotisserie since at least the 1980s, I wanted to point out that Pinball Mike posted about making one in 2005 on RGP.
    I don't want anyone to feel slighted, least of all a fellow Pinsider! Thanks Mike!

    Thanks for reposting my design, Vid. Yes, I did build the first black pipe playfield rotisserie in 2005, and then posted these plans for the newer version on RGP in 2011:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/mike217/sets/72157626484933268/
    It was very thoughtful of you to share it with Pinside. In the future, if anyone else would like to repost my design it is common courtesy to ask for permission first and include my name on my design.

    Mike

    #49 6 years ago
    Quoted from Pinballmike217:

    Thanks for reposting my design, Vid. Yes, I did build the first black pipe playfield rotisserie in 2005, and then posted these plans for the newer version on RGP in 2011:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/mike217/sets/72157626484933268/
    It was very thoughtful of you to share it with Pinside. In the future, if anyone else would like to repost my design it is common courtesy to ask for permission first and include my name on my design.
    Mike

    And a link to my original plans on RGP:
    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/browse_thread/thread/314082a1fa8a60bd/ac371b4396b9ffa8?lnk=gst&q=pinballmike217+rotisserie#ac371b4396b9ffa8

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    #53 6 years ago
    Quoted from vid1900:

    That's what is great about the design, you can easily modify it to your specs.
    One guy who emailed me saying he designed the first pipe rotisserie back in the 1980s, said he originally used it to restore antique doors. Obviously you would need to use two 1/2" x 96" black pipes if you had to secure a door between the uprights.

    Yes, you can easily modify the design by leaving out the original designers name and taking credit for someone elses work.
    And yes, you can say someone else built a door rotisserie in the 1980's. I never said I built the first rotisserie. I said I built the first black pipe pinball playfield rotisserie.

    Mike

    #55 6 years ago
    Quoted from Wolfmarsh:

    I'm sure someone can print you a certificate for being the original inventor of the ghetto rotisserie.

    LOL, That would be wonderful, Thank you. I designed it, I built it, I shared it, and I never asked anyone for a nickel for it. So yes, the occasional thank you is a very satisfying reward, indeed.

    Mike

    1 month later
    #65 6 years ago
    Quoted from QuickSilverShelb:

    Vid, I just built a rotisserie using your guide and it is simple and excellent. Only one thing I'd like to comment on. You state to use 1/2" x 48" pipe for the long lengths but I think you actually need 1/2" x 60" pipe for the long lengths because the 48" pipes are not long enough to take a playfield.
    I built mine and when I went to put a playfield on it I couldn't extend things out far enough to accept my RFM playfield which is 43" long. I could only get a maximum 41" spread therefore I was 2" short. My TAF playfield is 46" long so I would be 5" short.
    I solved this by buying another length of 1/2" x 6" pipe and a coupler and added on to my existing 48" pipe so I should be good now.
    Just wanted to let everyone know that 1/2" x 60" pipe is what you need and not the 48" long.
    Other than that, thanks for the tutorial.
    QSS

    The original plans I designed for the black pipe rotisserie called for 60" crossbeams:

    http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/browse_thread/thread/314082a1fa8a60bd/ac371b4396b9ffa8?lnk=gst&q=pinballmike217+rotisserie#ac371b4396b9ffa8

    I don't know why Vid choose shorter crossbeams when he reposted my plans, they are too short.

    Mike

    1 week later
    #68 6 years ago
    Quoted from ArcadiusMaximus:

    I just built this yesterday. Awesome and very simple to construct. The most difficult part was making sure everything squared up properly and the vertical pipes with the rotating angles were the same height. Some of the pipes I bought wanted to tighten a little easier than others.
    I have a general question about using a rotisserie. Is it dangerous to leave a playfield in one long term? With the amount of slop in the rotating mechanism and the lack of horizontal support I'm concerned about the play field bowing slightly. I'm assuming an unpopulated playfield would weigh less and be and not be so much of an issue though. Maybe I could buy 2 more pref angles and use them to span the length of the playfield.

    If you are going to leave a playfield on the rotisserie for a long time you can rotate it to a vertical position instead of leaving it horizontal. Either way it is not really a worry. When you put the wood edges back on the playfield after you're finished they will square everything up again.

    1 year later
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    #139 5 years ago
    Quoted from shimoda:

    I've put the basics from page one together in a little PDF (with Vid's approval - thanks Vid) for all of the build. Personally I like to put my pinball docs in Dropbox then open them in iBooks so I have things wherever I go. PDF for this is attached. I may do other guides over time and attach them to Vid's various awesome and informative threads.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/c5lk8tdqzta5ia3/Playfield%20Rotisserie%20-%20Blackpipe.pdf

    If you are going to repost these plans please give credit where credit is due. I designed this rotisserie and it was copied in this thread without my permission. The original plans are here:
    http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/just-in-case-you-havent-built-a-rotisserie-yet

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    #174 4 years ago
    Quoted from vid1900:

    Yeah, the earliest reference anyone has shown me to our hobby's black pipe rotisserie is in a 90's woodworking book that uses it for door refinishing on all sides.
    They show the same angle iron wings, like we use now, but they use threaded machine screw knobs with sharpened tips to hold the door, rather than the clamps we use.

    That may be true but the plans for this rotisserie were copied verbatim from plans I originally designed and posted on RGP with no permission asked or given.

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/just-in-case-you-havent-built-a-rotisserie-yet

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    #177 4 years ago
    Quoted from vid1900:

    There are like 3 of you guys all claiming to have be the inventor of the black pipe rotisserie.
    One guy even went as far as to send me a picture of it in a woodworking book with a 1990© copyright date, claiming he was the author.
    I imagine each of you guys could have independently invented it, stranger things have happened.
    The only person I'm certain did not invent it is me.

    All anyone has to do is look at our two stock lists. You copied mine verbatim. I just don't understand why you refuse to give credit where credit is due. You do a ton for Pinside. You don't have to take credit for other peoples work when you have done so much on your own. This is the right way to do it, ask permission and give credit:
    http://pinballbash.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=21b5ec87ff1a857fbb6c12aa632da738&topic=8355.0

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    #180 4 years ago
    Quoted from vid1900:

    You keep bringing this up year after year.
    I gave you credit 2 years ago in post #26 of this guide:

    =

    2 years ago in post #1, the very first line, I said that I did not invent this:

    -
    So I gave you credit, I said I did not invent this, and there are 2 other guys who claim THEY invented it, one of whom has authored a book with the plans published in 1990.

    Well Vid you clearly stated you didn't invent this but you never said who did. Why not? Why not just link to the original plans you copied to do your build? The guy you reference in 1990 built a rotisserie for doors not pinball playfields. That is clearly not the rotisserie in this post.
    I would have posted my plans here but I had not joined Pinside before you reposted my plans from RGP. I am honestly flattered when people use and repost my design. That is why I put it out there. It is just mind boggling to me that someone who gives so much to Pinside is incapable of acknowledging someone else for just trying to help as well. You say you didn't design this. Once again, what is the problem with saying who did? Why can't you just state for the record that you reprinted a design originally posted by me?
    Once again, thanks for reposting my design. Whatever reason you have for not divulging where you first saw this design is your own business. I greatly appreciate and publicly thank you for all your awesome posts and tutorials. You have shared a ton of great information with Pinside and I have enjoyed the knowledge that you've shared.

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    #187 4 years ago
    Quoted from vid1900:

    Alright, I have a feeling I'm being punked, but I'll give this one last try so this does not go on anther 3 years. (I've been emailed that English might not be your first language - sorry, I did not know that) ......
    -

    It has the exact same parts, except all the 1/4-20 knobs are plastic T-style knobs.
    It has the exact same assembly, except for the pinball rubbers around the legs.
    E-X-A-C-T-L-Y the same.

    No need to worry about my English Vid, I can read just fine. Please post a link to the wood working rotisserie that is E-X-A-C-T-L-Y the same. I'd like to take a look at it. Thanks.

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