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VID's Guide to Upgrading/Rebuilding Flippers

By vid1900

11 years ago


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Post #6 Get the right EOS switch Posted by vid1900 (11 years ago)

Post #8 Make System 11 Flippers Feel Tight Like Fliptronic Posted by vid1900 (11 years ago)

Post #88 Replace Old Series Coils With New Parallel Coils Posted by vid1900 (11 years ago)

Post #140 Udate Old Solid State Flippers Into Fliptronic Style Posted by vid1900 (11 years ago)

Post #292 List of games with longer/shorter flipper travel Posted by vid1900 (10 years ago)

Post #294 Rebuilding 1967-1979 Flippers Posted by vid1900 (10 years ago)

Post #390 Coil stop differences between system 11 and Fliptronic Posted by vid1900 (10 years ago)

Post #520 Rebuilding Bally Linear Flippers Posted by vid1900 (9 years ago)


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#1936 6 years ago
Quoted from gabegabegabe:

Here is a picture of my Embryon lower right flipper mech.

Quoted from vid1900:

Both of those switches have the plastic pusher on the tips.
Probably best to just use the Bally parts in this instance.

Perhaps i am just a nimrod but can some one help me out here?

So i invested already some time into this whole Forum. First and foremost this is by the looks of it already one of the best forum which i saw on the world wide interwebz so far.

Anyway, currently i am disassembling and - hopefully reassembling - a Bally Vector.
I wanted to tackle the Flipper at some point as well but for them i am in need of new switches.
The attached Pictures are from my left flipper (not the upper one). The Playfield itself has 4 Flipper Bats.

I think the switches on this particular flipper bat were already replaced once because in my eyes at least the look pretty okay. Nonetheless i want to replace them no point in ordering only 2 switches and spare the expenses when i already invested a shitton of money into the restore itself. Unfortunately the right bat switches were not that lucky. I touched one and it literally fall apart to be honest i dont even know how in my initial test even worked and how the flipper bat moved

So i am a bit in a struggle here because the manual does not describe which type of switches were used. I tried the stupid approach of ordering any switch which is remotely close of looking a like... Well lets say i did learn something because no switch was even close of looking the same...

The Flipper rebuildkit does contain switches but you know - another switch for my super switch collection. So a big fat no fit on that one as well.

http://www.pinball.center/de/shop/flipperspezifisch/centaur/7298/rebuild-kit-bally-05/1980-03/1988?c=2704

Does someone of you happen to know which switches i do need? Even better would be a Guideline which i am able to follow to find out myself.

In case there is no documentation in the manual 'bout which switches are used can i for example order a switch which looks the same and use it?

In case i found a fitting switch which is just not right from high perspective wise, can i assume that the switch would work if i just adjust the high? If so am i able to buy some of the small things which i would need to adjust the high?

EDIT:

Btw i was asking myself if such a switch for example would do the trick - is just a better repro than the OG one even tho it looks different?

http://www.pinball.center/de/shop/elektronikteile/schalter-taster/2262/flipperkontakt-doppelt-bally-ac70-00023-0100

EDIT2:

I checked the manual one day to order some new coils and saw later on in the pin that almost every coil has the wrong size. Is this to be expected or am i just to damn stupid to understand Chars and Numbers?

I mean i read somewhere smaller number, lesser windings, stronger flipper bat but really is that what someone wants?

The coil on my Pictures says (34-3600)
The manual says 34-4500 correct? (see attached picture)

Manual itself -> http://mirror2.ipdb.org/files/2723/vector_manual_rev.pdf

Cheers and thanks in advance for your help

Sev

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#1944 6 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

Remember that the two upper flipper bats on Vector are the small ones. Often these have been replaced by full size bats over the years by lazy operators.
Fix this before your put the game back together.
Also, most people get rid of the Linear flipper mechs, and switch to the much faster old style mechs.
The Linear plungers weigh 2x what the old style ones did, so it's simple physics why they suck so bad.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/vids-guide-to-upgradingrebuilding-flippers/page/11#post-1855100

Thanks for your answers.

Yeah sadly one of them bats is a big one, almost as big to block the whole ramp down from the XYZ targets LOL.

I read that Post from you with the upgrade/downgrade days ago already. Sounded pretty good imho and i will try that for the upper bats for sure.

But the question still remains what is happening with the lower playfield bats? They have 2 switches is it that simple - just order 2 of them and place them ontop/side to side to each other and solder the cable as they were before?

That being said i tried to assemble the rebuild kit and literally not a single screw fits on the mounting bracket o.O even worse is that there seems to be no nut "needed" to mount the round white plastic onto the bracket. Perhaps its just a bad kit :/

Please bear with me. i am as one might see completely new into pins :/

Cheers

Sev

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