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VID's Guide to Upgrading/Rebuilding Flippers

By vid1900

11 years ago


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Post #6 Get the right EOS switch Posted by vid1900 (11 years ago)

Post #8 Make System 11 Flippers Feel Tight Like Fliptronic Posted by vid1900 (11 years ago)

Post #88 Replace Old Series Coils With New Parallel Coils Posted by vid1900 (11 years ago)

Post #140 Udate Old Solid State Flippers Into Fliptronic Style Posted by vid1900 (11 years ago)

Post #292 List of games with longer/shorter flipper travel Posted by vid1900 (10 years ago)

Post #294 Rebuilding 1967-1979 Flippers Posted by vid1900 (10 years ago)

Post #390 Coil stop differences between system 11 and Fliptronic Posted by vid1900 (10 years ago)

Post #520 Rebuilding Bally Linear Flippers Posted by vid1900 (9 years ago)


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#870 8 years ago

I need Gottlieb System 3 flipper rebuild tips. I've rebuilt both flippers and they are still very weak, not sure why. Help please!!!

#874 8 years ago

Question 1: yes sir.
Question 2: no but they are in great shape meaning no cracks and I ran them through the ultrasonic cleaner a bunch of times and they look brand new upon very close inspection.
Question 3: yes they seem to run very smoothly when manually testing them.
Question 4: I have not tried jumpering the eos switch but I will. What does jumpering the eos switch do? Thanks.

#884 8 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

Probably 90% of all "weak flipper" problems are the EOS Switch.
If you jumper it closed, you take it out of the circuit.
If the flipper now kicks like a mule, you know the switch is indeed the problem.
DO NOT HOLD THE FLIPPER BUTTON IN WHILE THE EOS IS JUMPERED - you will blow the fuse.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/vids-guide-to-upgradingrebuilding-flippers/page/9#post-1495725

I think it was the EOS switch's being very dirty. I cleaned them with contact cleaner and 1500 sandpaper and they now kick pretty strong. Thanks for the help. Much appreciated.

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#1026 8 years ago

Hey Vid, pardon me if you already covered this previously in this thread but, I just installed all new flipper parts on my WCS, also new coils, everything from the roota to the toota. I still am not gettiing that snap I feel I should get from new flipper parts and coils. I also used the little gap tool when tightening down the flipper bats to the pawl and feel I got the gap between the flipper bushing and the flipper bat pretty damn perfect. Was I supposed to tighten the flipper piston and link to the pawl also? Thanks.

#1028 8 years ago

I mean that do not have the power or "snap" I would expect from all brand new flipper parts. When I manually move them they feel perfect, also I used the gap tool when I tightened down the flipper bats so the gap seems good. I'm not sure what else to check.

#1030 8 years ago

Thanks xsvtoys. I'll doublecheck the wiring in the manual when I get home.

#1033 8 years ago

Does anyone have a pic of how the wiring goes to the flipper coils on WCS ? I can't find a clear pic anywhere and the manual does not have any diagram of the wiring to the flipper coils. This is what I have right now. Pretty sure the right flipper is the top picture.

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#1036 8 years ago

Thanks Vid. Should the power wire be on the banded side of the diode or middle lug or unbanded side of the diodes?

#1039 8 years ago

Thanks to all that helped! Much appreciated. I think maybe I'll adjust the gap on the flipper bats and see if that helps. The flippers aren't bad but they are missing just a little bit of power. Last time I did a flipper rebuild was on my Judge Dredd and when they were done, the power was unreal. I felt like I could have smashed the drop targets in front of the subway. Anyway, I must have something slightly off.

#1040 8 years ago

Hey Vid, could you step me how to test the voltage at the flipper coils? I tried with my multi meter but I am getting wierd readings and am not sure if I have it set right. Should I be pressing the flipper button once the meter is clipped onto the lugs? Thanks in advance. Here's a pic of my meter and the test clips I rigged up for it.

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