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VID's Guide to Upgrading/Rebuilding Flippers

By vid1900

11 years ago


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Post #6 Get the right EOS switch Posted by vid1900 (11 years ago)

Post #8 Make System 11 Flippers Feel Tight Like Fliptronic Posted by vid1900 (11 years ago)

Post #88 Replace Old Series Coils With New Parallel Coils Posted by vid1900 (11 years ago)

Post #140 Udate Old Solid State Flippers Into Fliptronic Style Posted by vid1900 (11 years ago)

Post #292 List of games with longer/shorter flipper travel Posted by vid1900 (10 years ago)

Post #294 Rebuilding 1967-1979 Flippers Posted by vid1900 (10 years ago)

Post #390 Coil stop differences between system 11 and Fliptronic Posted by vid1900 (10 years ago)

Post #520 Rebuilding Bally Linear Flippers Posted by vid1900 (9 years ago)


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#2816 1 year ago

Posting some pictures of what my new Motordome’s old lower two flipper mechs are like. Pretty amazing to me that the right one hasn’t busted off (missing screw, loose, spring shot). Will be following the early Vid guide on upgrading these. Now to call Steve and not get yelled at…

Left Flipper
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Right Flipper
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Right EOS Switches
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Right Flipper
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Left Flipper
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Upper Right Flipper
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Upper Left Flipper (raised)
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3 weeks later
#2818 1 year ago

Does the flipper build for the 6803 Bally (Motordome) need a capacitor to increase the life of the switch? Also, what do you put on the crank so it's not metal on metal contact? Electrical tape? Is that to avoid wearing the metal switch, or to avoid electrical currents? Thank you

#2820 1 year ago
Quoted from vid1900:

No cap
You can put shrink wrap on the Crank (the hard plastic y shrink, not the soft rubber stuff)

Is there something preformed, like I'm seeing on other switches. Or do you have a link to your favorite material? Sorry, I'm really not sure if I'm supposed to be using Glad here, haha. I was thinking heat-shrink tubing for wires, but it's too small.

2 weeks later
#2822 1 year ago

Is the nylon and the washer in the correct place and direction? They’re hidden in a lot of photos.

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Look away, I’m hideous! (old coil)

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I don’t even want to think about all the things wrong with that coil. Saying “replace” over and over is like word bleach

#2824 1 year ago

This way with the washer would mimic how it was originally installed, taking into account Vid’s improvements. Is that acceptable?

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This might be overkill, but if the washer has a slight bend to it, do you want the bend facing the coil or the metal? I was thinking the coil, so the metal takes the sharp edges and not the nylon of the coil.

1 month later
#2826 1 year ago

Thank you all for the help and posts, especially you Vid. Finally made one of the modified Bally flippers. Utilized some stainless steel hinges to make the L brackets so they’d be strong and snug, and trimmed some stainless steel machine screws so the switches wouldn’t short out on the crank screws that stick out pretty far. Going the Molex route for reconnecting the wires (much easier for a newbie solderer). Actually enjoyed the soldering part of the process. The annoying part was realizing I needed a vice to enjoy those manly minutes in the garage Vid talked about Thanks again for the Flitz recommendation - cleaned things up nicely

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#2827 1 year ago

Did the second flipper. Read about Loctite 242 / Blue. Utilized that, including removing the first flipper to reassemble and apply it to the screws. Having the Molex made removal of the first flipper a breeze Now onto the third and fourth flipper assemblies

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#2840 1 year ago

3/4 Motordome flipper mechs done Sometimes I have to adjust the spring a bit so that I don’t hear the twang sound when it extends and retracts. No need to accept that, as it’s a nuance that can easily be fixed by testing and repositioning the spring.

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#2841 1 year ago

4/4 Motordome flippers rebuilt (3/3 pops, too). Thank you Vid! Couldn’t have done this without you sharing your knowledge

Is there a slingshot rebuild thread?

One thing that the rebuilding experience taught me is that the solenoids are all on the same circuit on this 6803. Not sure if that’s always the case, or an era thing, but good to know.

Edit: finished off the screws and had to switch some wiring.

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#2860 8 months ago

Love how Time Machine’s (Data East) playfield has labeling for assemblies and wiring. Are more Data East playfields like that?

This flipper rebuild only took a couple hours, and a full kit was used, but accidentally forgot to adjust the leaf switches at first. Easy to overlook if you’re rushing or assume the kits are good to go once installed.

This one went much faster than the Bally 6803 flipper rebuild

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