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Vid's Guide to Ultimate Playfield Restoration

By vid1900

11 years ago


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Post #7 Playfield damage assessment. Posted by vid1900 (11 years ago)

Post #8 Insert damage assessment. Posted by vid1900 (11 years ago)

Post #34 How to sand your new inserts flat. Posted by vid1900 (11 years ago)

Post #35 Cleaning old glue out of the insert holes. Posted by vid1900 (11 years ago)


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#2858 8 years ago

I have a few raised inserts as well, so vid when you say "Epoxy them from behind.." is that after you've pressed it down with the clamp and you just put some epoxy around the rim of the insert adjoining the hole? or add epoxy then press down? or ??

#2860 8 years ago

I understand that part, just wondering the exact timing and placement of the epoxy.

#2862 8 years ago

OK, thanks vid, I'll give it a shot.

3 months later
#3195 7 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

If your playfield is too fragile even for blue tape, then cut a sanding mask from a sheet of polyester from a report cover.

ah ha! good plan, I believe that would be handy when I just want to fill some inserts but not clear the entire playfield. Was trying to think of what to use like the old metal eraser shields from my drafting days.. like with pencil and paper you young punks.. get off my lawn!

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#3304 7 years ago

Not exactly a playfield itself question, but this seemed like a good place to ask. I'm cleaning up a Gottlieb Pinball Pool, and want to replace the ugly and worn vinyl covered pine rails (see attached) with some nice maple ones, which I read somewhere is what they used on earlier models. I have the wood, a thickness planer, and saws and know how to use them, my question is on the earlier ones did they clear the rails with something, or are they bare wood. I have a Vulcan as well which has the wood rails, but honestly I can't tell if they were cleared and it has mostly/all worn off or if it never was and is just "stained". If cleared, what would be a good/easy product to use?

Thanks,
Dan

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#3306 7 years ago

Thanks Vid!

1 year later
#4788 6 years ago

It does work with Windows 10, just not the hp software. I believe I scanned right in Photoshop last time I did it. I honestly don't remember what I did driver wise when I first hooked it up, but it does work.

#4814 6 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

I'd use Photoshop.
You don't need the latest version, just a cheap old version will do everything a pinball restorer needs.
If you are still running Win8 or 7, it's free.
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/how-to-get-photoshop-for-free/
If you have any .edu email addresses you can use, you can buy an **education copy** for $69-100 of the latest greatest.

um, yeah I think it's now down to you can rent CC versions for a discount with an .edu address, unless someone has a better link than me.

3 months later
#5422 6 years ago

I have one of these from harbor fright that I had gotten for some other purpose, but it worked very well for making some large curved rails for my home brew.

https://www.harborfreight.com/gear-driven-ring-roller-36790.html

3 weeks later
#5476 6 years ago
Quoted from statictrance:

Do you happen to have a link to that handy tool? I also bought the 12" C-Clamps from Harbor Freight and after a few not even redoing just releveling the existing inserts on an F14 mine are totally bent and jacked from putting them under solid pressure.

That looks like this one: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0011361PS/

Can probably find for less elsewhere.

Longer version as well although pic is wrong. https://www.amazon.com/Vise-Grip-24SP-24-Inch-Locking-Swivel/dp/B00004SBBB

2 months later
#5668 6 years ago

just cut the barbs off the post, don't cut the post.. make sense? If not I can make pictures.

3 months later
#5926 5 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

I usually make a sheet of decals and apply them where needed.

Even for things are large as lines around sinbad's sword? (not to mention around the large white areas on the same playfield).

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#6068 5 years ago
Quoted from sethbenjamin:

I haven't done this yet, but one could take any flat bed scanner and remove the lid. I bought one of those old HP jobs on eBay but cannot for the life of me find software to enable me to use it. Others don't seem to have been shut down the way I have been, but FWIW, a newer scanner, even if you have to bust off the lid, might be way easier to deal with at this point.

Most of them have a raised edge around them that would raise the glass off the playfield resulting in out-of-focus scans. I've heard of people taking them apart and making it work, but I haven't tried it. On my HP I don't think I loaded any special software or drivers, windows 10 recognized it and I used photoshop for scanning.

2 years later
#7556 2 years ago

bar of soap works good too, I used to have a bar of irish spring in the toolbox for that purpose, and the tool box smelled good

2 months later
#7689 2 years ago
Quoted from joshmc:

new inserts or old?

new. the inserts need to be glued in place sanded flush, then artwork, keylines at least, then clear over the top of all of it

2 months later
#7748 2 years ago
Quoted from joshmc:

Personally, I would use a vinyl cutting machine. Scan and import the images or whatever you want to reproduce into Photoshop. Then use the pen tool to create a vector. Then print on the vinyl cutter and effectively what you then have is a stencil you can airbrush onto the insert. Have a look at the above pictures of the playfield I just did. I used that exact method. Alternately, scan the images and send them to me. I’d be happy to do it. You’ll just need to pay for postage.

that is how would do keylines as well to answer your earlier question.

1 year later
#8298 1 year ago
Quoted from packie1:

You have used this? The reviews on Amazon are okay but not great. Some of the pics of folk's work are bad. Do you have pics of PFs you did with this?
Mike

I've done 3 playfields with it, all holding up great.

others have used a roller to great success as well

while you can polish out to high sheen I purposely left this one not
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11 months later
#8693 3 months ago
Quoted from vid1900:

I mean, yes, every man should own a vise...
But, you can also support it on the inside corner of a metal tool box (in the field), in the open jaws of a pair of locking-pliers, or a scrap piece of angle iron

I've also done it by drilling a hole in a scrap 2x4 and driving the pin into the hole.

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