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Vid's Guide to Bulletproofing Williams System 3-7

By vid1900

11 years ago


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#759 5 years ago

I'm having trouble with occasional resets on Gorgar. Pinwiki led me to check the unregulated 12V, and while I understand it can vary, I'm only getting 10V. I traced the 10V all the way back to the diodes on the power board, which are new 6A4 diodes that I installed per this guide. I'm getting 9.5 VAC on the other side of the diodes, which looks correct per the schematic.

Granted this was tested when it booted up fine. My guess is 10V is borderline ok, but it's occasionally dropping below that and causing the reset. What should I be changing or checking here if that's the case? New diodes again? Or does it sound more like I'm going down the wrong path with the reset issue?

#762 5 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

Check the voltage at the MPU board.

I first checked at the MPU and that's where I saw 10V, at TP1. Then checked at the MPU connector, then power supply connector, fuse, capacitor, and diodes. Same everywhere.

Quoted from Schwaggs:

Measure DC volts between ground and each clip of F5 and tell us what you are seeing.
Remove F5 and tell us what DC voltage you see at the F5 clip (this will be the unloaded voltage).

I'm getting 10.0 VDC at each clip with F5 in, and 13.1 VDC with F5 removed.

Quoted from Schwaggs:

I would look closely at the pins in J1 for loose, tarnished, worn out connections. Does J1 show any signs of getting warm (yellowed or burned housing)?

Pins 3 and 6 on the board look pretty toasty, but the connector shows no signs. (I don't understand 6 looking bad, there's no mating pin for it in the connector?)

#766 5 years ago
Quoted from Schwaggs:

Look below the power board, there are several fuses mounted on the backbox. There is a pair of 4A SB fuses there labeled F2 and F3. These fuse the power supply as it enters the power supply board. Using your meter on AC, measure from ground to each side of these fuses in these fuse holder as well as the inputs to the diodes on the power supply board. You are looking for a voltage drop caused by a dirty connection somewhere. After you measure, remove these fuses, clean with a green scrubby or something, reinstall and remeasure to see if things improved.

Before:
10.0 to 9.5 VAC, and 9.7 to 9.6 VAC

Didn't do a great job of cleaning those fuse clips with the big cap in the way, but I looked at the fuse for the one with the 0.5V drop, and it was measuring about 5 Ohms resistance. It was also a 1/4A fuse! I replaced that with a 2.5A SB fuse (don't have any 4A on hand).

After:
9.9 to 9.8 VAC, and 9.8 to 9.8 VAC
Diodes both measured 9.8 VAC going in and 11.1 VDC coming out.

MPU TP1 is now getting 11.0 VDC, so definitely an improvement over where I started. Anything else I should be looking at? If not I'll just keep an eye on it and see if I get any more resets.

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