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Video Mode, Yes or No

By McDoom

1 year ago


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    “Video Mode, Yes or No”

    • Hell Yeah! 109 votes
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    • Hell No! 40 votes
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    #1 1 year ago

    Should companies like, Stern, Jersey Jack Pinball, American Pinball, and Spooky bring back video modes like the 90’s Bally Williams games?

    I think this would be a fun addition to spice up our modern-day pinball machines If done correctly.

    (With that being said, you would have the option to turn them off in settings).

    Let me know your thoughts.

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    #2 1 year ago

    Hell no

    I came to play pinball. I'm here for a physical experience

    If I want to play a crappy short video game with bad controls then I'll pull out my phone

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    #3 1 year ago

    Why not , best approach is a menu setting to turn on or off ...
    Everyone wins

    #4 1 year ago

    I'm sure it's an unpopular opinion, but I don't hate video modes. They give a game more variety and let the coils cool down for a few seconds.

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    #5 1 year ago

    Hell yea. I love video modes.

    #6 1 year ago

    No video modes suck. Last game I can remember that had one was ghostbusters and one mode was meh and the other was just dumb. I will say newer players and casuals really seem to love video modes though

    #7 1 year ago

    FT video mode, Hell yeah!
    HS2 video mode, meh.
    CV copy cat video mode, Hell no!

    #8 1 year ago

    I don't think I hate them, but I do find myself skipping them when I can. On GoT I never pick video mode for a mystery award, but my wife loves it. I liked Star Wars video mode, I just hated how many points you could get on it and how many times it came up. If you brought in a high multiplier, your video mode score could be the most points scored in that game.

    #9 1 year ago

    Toy Story 4 has a video mode with Tiki Pinball. Sure it's not on their main LCD screen but it's very playable on the mini screen.

    #10 1 year ago
    Quoted from schudel5:

    FT video mode, Hell yeah!
    HS2 video mode, meh.
    CV copy cat video mode, Hell no!

    I actually like the HS2 video mode.

    #11 1 year ago

    At best a good video mode is "fine" but most are just ugh...

    #12 1 year ago

    I've always found them somewhat annoying especially after the umpteenth time, and they interrupt the real game, so, no for me.

    #13 1 year ago

    BSD is a great video mode. I wish TWD had one similar. I also enjoyed the IJ PoA video modes.

    #14 1 year ago
    Quoted from frenchmarky:

    I've always found them somewhat annoying especially after the umpteenth time, and they interrupt the real game, so, no for me.

    A lot of video modes are too long as well. They're better when they're very brief and let you get back to the fun part.

    #15 1 year ago

    If it is a good one and fits the theme hell yeah! Lethal weapon 3 has the best one with the target practice. That poor bastard with the flower usually gets it every time when I'm playing after a few beers.

    #16 1 year ago

    They are only fun for the first few times so not really. If done, they should be very quick to complete and only done once or maybe twice in a game. Nice when you can earn extra ball like in FT.

    #17 1 year ago

    I would love to see them add a tassle twirl video mode to EHOH.

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    #18 1 year ago

    Many years ago (before LCD's appeared in real pinball machines), I came up with an idea to use live action film footage in a video mode. The idea is based on QTE (Quick Time Events) - press the correct flipper as it flashes on the screen. Reaction time would start at 300ms and decrease each time. Someone with very fast reflexes could complete the scene and win the award.

    Very simple idea and very easy to code.

    #19 1 year ago

    I like the concept of video modes....but I don't think these were ever executed very well.

    #20 1 year ago

    I really dislike the Stern Star Wars falcon video mode
    very annoying.

    #21 1 year ago

    Just like anything it depends on the video mode. Games that have video modes just because it was a thing to do, suck. When it's a good mode and done well they are great.

    #22 1 year ago
    Quoted from Swainer80:

    If it is a good one and fits the theme hell yeah! Lethal weapon 3 has the best one with the target practice. That poor bastard with the flower usually gets it every time when I'm playing after a few beers.

    LW3 target practice is sweet. so is the tie fighter skill shot in Star Wars.

    #23 1 year ago
    Quoted from Oneangrymo:

    I really dislike the Stern Star Wars falcon video mode
    very annoying.

    I actually really like it.

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    #24 1 year ago

    Are there video modes where after awhile you figure out the patterns and can just blow thru it every time?

    #25 1 year ago

    Some are good, some are bad.
    The funniest has always been complaining it kills the flow. haha.

    Quoted from frenchmarky:

    Are there video modes where after awhile you figure out the patterns and can just blow thru it every time?

    FT
    STNG:L,L,R,R,L,R,L

    #26 1 year ago
    Quoted from Haymaker:

    I will say newer players and casuals really seem to love video modes though

    because they're often easier to understand than actual pinball rules, and they can't lose the ball during a video mode

    #27 1 year ago
    Quoted from djsoup:

    I actually really like it.
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    No one on this planet is a bigger star wars fan then me... for shits sake I have a puzzle with hans finger that is actually a penis in my collection, but that mode needs to go.

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    #28 1 year ago
    Quoted from frenchmarky:

    Are there video modes where after awhile you figure out the patterns and can just blow thru it every time?

    Yes including the video mode in OP's example

    (I know a modern video mode would have a more proper RNG function, this was just a funny example of how you could memorize a lot of old video modes)

    #29 1 year ago

    Not sure about nowadays with LCD screens, but I enjoyed them during the DMD era. LW3 and Sega Harley Davidson had some fun modes.

    #30 1 year ago
    Quoted from SterlingRush:

    Not sure about nowadays with LCD screens, but I enjoyed them during the DMD era. LW3 and Sega Harley Davidson had some fun modes.

    and the great thing is if you have DE GNR and Sega HD...you have the same video mode....same pattern. How great is that? Only have to remember 1. lol

    #31 1 year ago

    I don't think it matters either way. I've always been a pinball guy way more than a video game player, but I do like the video modes on games like Creech and Fishtales. A short video mode here or there is ok, I just wouldn't it to be a major part of game play.

    #32 1 year ago
    Quoted from Oneangrymo:

    No one on this planet is a bigger star wars fan then me... for shits sake I have a puzzle with hans finger that is actually a penis in my collection, but that mode needs to go.[quoted image]

    I think the SW video mode is one of the better ones in pinball. I will say 20 secs is too long for it (luckily this can be changed to 15 secs in settings), and playing as Han can make it video mode overload. Otherwise, it’s one of my personal favorites in pinball.

    #33 1 year ago
    Quoted from Oneangrymo:

    No one on this planet is a bigger star wars fan then me... for shits sake I have a puzzle with hans finger that is actually a penis in my collection, but that mode needs to go.[quoted image]

    Need a poll of who thought this thread would lead to SW Penis puzzles...

    #34 1 year ago

    I love Fish Tales video mode , lots of fun shooting the jet skis and skiers , even after you've done it 1000 times it's still tricky to get a perfect score , especially after a few beers
    Fish Tales is a brutal game and when friends come over and play it keeps them interested .

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    #35 1 year ago
    Quoted from Haymaker:

    No video modes suck. Last game I can remember that had one was ghostbusters and one mode was meh and the other was just dumb. I will say newer players and casuals really seem to love video modes though

    You say , no video modes suck , but then you say one is meh and another one is dumb , which is it

    #36 1 year ago

    Some are annoying in that the video mode scores too much (doctor who, especially with 4x PF multiplier going). As others noted, you can't lose the ball during the video mode, so why not shoot for it? Chose doctor 1 for escape letters help, deal with the carom off the standup bank, shoot the shot into the pops. Video mode itself is easy.

    That's a bad video mode. STTNG is bad too in that it's canned, but I'd still play it vs. Poker Night to get the artifact, which is no small change once you get final frontier.

    AFM's video mode is "ok". I'm kind of happy that the other DMD games I have don't have a video mode. I used to abuse DW's and stopped when I realized why have a pinball machine if all I'm doing is shooting for a video mode? It was almost on the chopping block for that.

    BSD and Shadows' were ok but those games when I had them were more about getting the 30 millions and the final battle.

    #37 1 year ago

    If it's nicely done (and SKIPPABLE!), hell yeah!
    JM is pretty fun, HS2 and Dr Who too. Harley Davidson, TOM or No Fear on the other hand are just terrible in that regard.

    #38 1 year ago

    The only video mode I don't care for is Star Wars DE.

    Favorite is BSD -

    #39 1 year ago

    SW has a video mode asteroid field that is fun.

    I think there’re ok as long as they are not too common.

    AFM has one and I don’t see it too often.

    #40 1 year ago

    Considering a third of my games have them, I say Hell Yeah!

    #41 1 year ago
    Quoted from McDoom:

    Should companies like, Stern, Jersey Jack Pinball, American Pinball, and Spooky bring back video modes like the 90’s Bally Williams games?
    I think this would be a fun addition to spice up our modern-day pinball machines If done correctly.
    (With that being said, you would have the option to turn them off in settings).
    Let me know your thoughts.[quoted image][quoted image]

    BSD has an awesome video mode, each wave comes out faster.
    Aaawooo

    #42 1 year ago
    Quoted from screaminr:

    You say , no video modes suck , but then you say one is meh and another one is dumb , which is it

    Sorry, I meant

    No, video modes suck

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    #43 1 year ago
    Quoted from SLAMT1LT:

    Many years ago (before LCD's appeared in real pinball machines), I came up with an idea to use live action film footage in a video mode. The idea is based on QTE (Quick Time Events) - press the correct flipper as it flashes on the screen. Reaction time would start at 300ms and decrease each time. Someone with very fast reflexes could complete the scene and win the award.
    Very simple idea and very easy to code.

    This is Awesome!!

    #44 1 year ago

    I love video modes. It gives you time to breath and do something new for a few moments.
    For more frenetic game play, remember Lethal Weapon, where a bad guy would pop-up randomly and you had to take your hands off the flippers quickly to blast him to smithereens using the mounted gun handle ball launcher? This gave the game a little bit more excitement and kept you on your toes.

    #45 1 year ago

    Some good ones:
    Mr/Ms pac-man (1st one)
    Jackbot Casino Run
    BSD
    Stern Star Wars (very cool)
    Shadow
    Indy 500
    Fish Tales
    IJTPA (these 3 are pretty good)
    Dr. WHO
    Johnny MN.

    These are ok...
    STTNG
    Congo
    AFM
    RFM is pretty much one large interactive video mode

    The rest are all kinda meh. In a small way, these modes were paying tribute to the hard working DMD artists in the industry. Look what I can do over here. More is better, well... if it's done well, why not? I personally think the Stern Star Wars one is a recent one that stands out as great.

    #46 1 year ago
    Quoted from Haymaker:

    Sorry, I meant
    No, video modes suck
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    Just stirring , amazing what a difference a comma can make

    #47 1 year ago
    Quoted from snyper2099:

    Some good ones:
    Mr/Ms pac-man (1st one)
    Jackbot Casino Run

    Is Casino Run a video mode though? I had a Jackbot for a few months and couldn't stand a game where I had to constantly button mash that does absolutely nothing half of the time. Like Mario Party but with less sweet sweet revenge.

    #48 1 year ago

    Heck ya! Video Mode... However, with great power comes great responsibility... I would argue there are more crap video modes than good ones... so if game developers establish video modes as a feature of a game, then make it such and give it the right attention... not an after thought. My 2 cents

    #49 1 year ago

    Oktoberfest has one that is inspired by the video game Tapper and Houdini has one with car scaling (throwing), something Houdini did in his acts. Neither has a set pattern you can memorize, but you can certainly develop the skill to do well on them. On Oktoberfest you can choose not to play unless you are trying to complete all tents. In Houdini takes a bit of skill and focus to avoid playing it. But to finish playing all stage modes you would need to play it.

    #50 1 year ago

    There are some good ones, but on a whole I would vote for not having them. If they are included in the game, they should be able to be bypassed for a set number of point and/or be disabled in the menus. I loved my Stern Star Wars but that stupid video mode just got in the way.

    Also, with the explosion of tournament pinball I think that video modes should not be used at all in those competitions. Maybe have it disabled in competition mode or as mentioned simply add the ability to disable in menus. STTNG gives a choice and I suppose that could be a tournament rule to choose points; similar to plunging extra balls on EMs.

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