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very odd data east( batman) issue- have hit a wall

By pinnut

5 years ago



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#1 5 years ago

data east batman . worked well for a few months, and one day on starting a game, starts spitting all 3 balls into the shooter lane. also, outhole kicker goes crazy, licking its brains out. if you put the balls in play, and they drain, it kicks them all out again. also, after about the 30 seconds, the knocker goes crazy, knocking way, but never adding credits.

in switch test, all 3 ball trough switches work correctly. shooter lane switch also works as intended. outhole switch too. there are no switch errors. if its going crazy, and i unplug the switch matrix connectors, it will still keep firing the outhole, knocker,

no stray voltage on the matrix connectors, checked with scope. no acid damage. had ver 1.02 software , swapped in rottendog mpu with 1.06 software, its exactly the same. no better, no worse.

it this point, i dont even have a theory what could be wrong. any ideas??

i just though, new anypin ram, but same processor chip . could it be the 6808 ?
game is far away, dont want to go back with out some kind of plan.

thanks

thanks

#2 5 years ago
Quoted from pinnut:

after about the 30 seconds, the knocker goes crazy, knocking way, but never adding credits.

Sounds like what I would call a "low level digital problem". Something digital just before the coil drives telling them to randomly turn on. It also appears restricted to coil drives 1-8 - no problems with coils 9-16? if so, looking at the schematic I see 5H LS273 as a starting point to look at with a scope.

#3 5 years ago

Does this happen at the same time any lights are flashing? I had something similar happen on my JP. The game would play fine then coils would start firing at random and keep firing until I ended the game or switched the machine off. In the switch and coil test it didn't happen. I found that the coils were pulsing and the same time the flashers were flashing. I checked my PPB board's K1 relay, and it had some cold solder joints. The relay is responsible for switching the voltage between the coils and bulbs so that 1 transistor can drive both. Reflowed the pins and haven't had the problem since.

#4 5 years ago
Quoted from edward472:

Does this happen at the same time any lights are flashing? I had something similar happen on my JP. The game would play fine then coils would start firing at random and keep firing until I ended the game or switched the machine off. In the switch and coil test it didn't happen. I found that the coils were pulsing and the same time the flashers were flashing. I checked my PPB board's K1 relay, and it had some cold solder joints. The relay is responsible for switching the voltage between the coils and bulbs so that 1 transistor can drive both. Reflowed the pins and haven't had the problem since.

thats very interesting. i'll look into that.

thanks

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