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    #401 5 years ago

    WOW! I can see the marks on the top right corner of the rear entry - that was my concern.

    So how do you raise the pin up 8" to begin to remove it?

    -mof

    #402 5 years ago

    It really isn't that bad. Just use your arms and pull it over the lip a bit and the rest is cake.

    #403 5 years ago

    I have a piece of thick particle board I drop into the floor when I'm hauling a pin in the Fit. That helps slide the game in and out and makes it pretty easy to lift up over the "lip." I've seen others use hardwood boards or those plastic office chair mats. I've also never had any trouble getting a WPC in or out. If you have a game with a gun handle, try and situate it so the handle is between the seats. Either way, you can't get your lean on with a pin in the back so expect a closer to the wheel ride. Also, you won't be able to strap up some older SS games with the head on the cab. For those you'll need to put the box along side. A Gottlieb System 80 or System 3 may not fit depending which cab it has. Genesis won't fit for example...

    #404 5 years ago

    Yup, fits like a glove

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    #405 5 years ago

    The new Honda fits work with all games, the old only work with select pins. They redesigned the hatchback in the new and they have more height clearance. Buy a Honda CRV......best, cheapest pin hauler among new vehicles. Easy load and unload, I do it by myself.

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    #406 5 years ago

    Is there specific year CRVs that will fit a NIB? I need that capability for my next vehicle.

    #407 5 years ago

    Is anyone with a 2011 or newer Honda Odyssey able to get Pin in through the side doors without removing the head on a fold down?

    I tried it with a SWDE and it might have made it if I were to remove the handle in the car that is there to help a person get inside.

    I thought about putting a game in from the back and then turning it inside but I didn't want to get it wedged in there.

    #408 5 years ago

    My friend has been hauling pins with his Honda Fit for years without any trouble. I even helped him move a TZ with the head folded down. I think only a Gottlieb System 3 could be an issue. He uses a section of PVC pipe to roll the game in and also roll it out over the raised lip. Works like a charm and it's easy to keep in the car.

    #409 5 years ago
    Quoted from HighVoltage:

    Anything in the sporty-hatch category than can haul a newer folded Stern? Also shooting for stick-shift and 170+ HP neighborhood. I was thinking A3 might fit the bill but apparently not according to the wiki.
    Anyone know about BMW 3-series wagon? A4-wagon?
    Any other candidates I can consider?
    If I have to go to the cross-over category, anything else close to these specs?

    I feel the pain. I'm in complete limbo with no solution in sight. I've been pounding the life out of my '11 vw sportwagen diesel. 6 speed manual. I love it. Nearly 170k miles on. Hauls most games I need to in the back and for bigger games,nib or multiple pin hauls it ties my trailer like a champ. Hauls my big husky and camping gear for us with tons of space.

    VW lied and is now going to buy back by car in October. Giving me 15K for it. What to get now? I need a stick. Want a wagon not an SUV or these stupid crossover made up things. They all have less room inside compared to my wagon.

    Love the tdi but bmw 3 series wagon is the only real option there. Already tried and will not fit a machine. Maybe an old balky with head off if you try real hard. Plus not a stick.

    Almost nothing is available in a stick which is furiating. The new sportwagen you can get a 5 speed stick(not the 6 speed I have in my older wagen!) but only on the stripped down base model. So annoying. I've been a lifelong vw guy and drive all sorts of them but this is my everyday car for the family and they are disappointing me.

    Hatch heights are shrinking as well. I'm exhausting a lot of options.

    This weekend I'm going to check out the new designed Mini Cooper clubman. 4 door wagon. Comes in s model and JCW for a nice engine in the near future too. All models available in a stick as well. Rear door is actually the 2 door split design and not a top lift hatch. If this has enough inches in heigh in the rear entry it may be my only option. Priced a few 1000 more than the sportwagen with similar options. My tdi was chipped and a pretty fast machine especially for a diesel. This hopefully is comparable.

    The next one I'm eyeing is the new Volvo v60 wagen. New design. Not sure on hatch heigh. Awd version comes with up to nearly 300 hp engine I believe. No stick though polestar version available as well for a straight up comfortable and safe racing machine!

    Jeep renegades also come in stick. Are a bit shorter for easy loading and very boxey rear hatch that might be tall enough with decent mpg for the jeep family. Not really my cup of tea.

    #411 5 years ago

    Courts have already approved this. It's just in public hearing now. They are suppose to start buying back cars October 1st. All of my info is in there ready to go with VW. I don't want consumer reports to drag this out for several more months so I can get a couple hundred dollars more. Car needs some major maitenance(Number 4 injector and wiring starting to be flakey. DPF needs replacing). Not dumping that money into the car so VW can crush it. Already spent a ton on timing belt job and a couple other issues just before the scandal. I invest in my cars to make sure they last. Was hoping to keep this for the long haul. Engine was just getting done being broken in!

    #412 5 years ago
    Quoted from Whridlsoncestood:

    VW lied and is now going to buy back by car in October. Giving me 15K for it. What to get now? I need a stick. .

    Been a long time since I heard anybody call a manual (or standard) shift a stick. How much gray hair do you have?

    #413 5 years ago
    Quoted from Betelgeuse:

    I think only a Gottlieb System 3 could be an issue.

    Not too bad, we just loaded sideways into my friend's Fit. Just have a couple of 2x4s handy to raise the cabinet above the floor helping it level out properly with the head so the hinges don't take the full weight from the cabinet. Good to go.

    Widebody was no problem either, we had a Pokerino in there.

    #414 5 years ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    Been a long time since I heard anybody call a manual (or standard) shift a stick. How much gray hair do you have?

    A bunch but I just turned 33 so not the answer you were really expecting

    #415 5 years ago

    Spent a day driving around dealers. Here is my disappointing conclusions for the day

    Mini

    Love the new mini clubman and the new interior. Top notch stuff. Any options you want all available with a manual transmision. Big downside is the rear door opening. 24" tall. Never getting a game in through that height. Roof climbs right after door opening and has plenty of height. Was really hoping the doors would be taller. The Mini Countryman has been discontinued and being brought back in the early spring. It's suppose to be taller(current one matches my vw sportwagen) and longer. Good chance this could fit one but not sure if I can wait that long on hopes. Possibly even the first diesel mini brings to the US.

    Subaru.

    No luck in the outback. Game fits through the hatch but then has a weird hump halfway in the stops the game. Boooo.

    Forester a game will fit. Seats do not fold flat but have a little hard carpet flap that helps make the height jump. Middles seatbelt comes from the roof so is an annoyance when you are sliding the game in. Gets tangled in it when your pushing it in. Comes in a stick with every option possible EXCEPT navigation! Just the idea of them doing that pisses me off plus I wasn't a fan of its looks in general. Want something lower to the ground for our large husky who's now 9 to jump in and out of the backseat.

    Double checked BMW 3 series wagen again. No stick and very tight game fit. Older games with head off probably. Wpc would be some work.

    Volvo v70 wagon. Too short. 26" tops. Maybe an older game. Interior dash and controls are horrendous and confusing compared to other European manufacturers. Big price tag too. Expect to start around 40k and up. Tons of great safety features over the other companies. if you are big on those. Also all automatics.

    Mercedes has a wagon but way over priced for the room and no stick.

    After a day if bouncing around dealers I'm disappointed and feeling like there is no hope to get a good fun car that can fit a pin and come in a manual transmision and isn't a suv. I'm even slightly leaning towards a new GTI and throwing s trailer hitch on it. Stinks to always have to use a trailer. Nice if I'm doing single game transports I can just toss it in the back of the wagon with no hassle but giving up that stick is a hard on for me.

    #416 5 years ago
    Quoted from Whridlsoncestood:

    Double checked BMW 3 series wagen again. No stick and very tight game fit. Older games with head off probably. Wpc would be some work.

    I had an E46 (2002 model year) wagon and the only way I could get an old game in was to set the backbox behind the game in the hatch and tie the trunk down. Very risky but I pulled it off once. Otherwise, I couldn't get anything else in. The hatch is just too low for a removed backbox of any sort as far as I could tell. Currently have a 2010 3 wagon and it doesn't fit shit either and there's no way to strap the trunk anymore.

    #417 5 years ago

    The old countryman would not fit a folded up modern game. Hope the new one does.

    #418 5 years ago
    Quoted from pinaholic:

    The old countryman would not fit a folded up modern game. Hope the new one does.

    Did you use to have one Al? How did you like it? I'm loading games in and out of the sanctum all the time. Really want a fun car than I can haul games all the time. Curious about the new one too.

    VW dealer is closed today but I want to check some gti dimensions. The hatch height I think is the same. Wondering if depth is there. Wagon is 12" longer in the boot. I usually have plenty of extra depth. Could be interesting.

    Anyone else ever try it in a MK6 or MK7 golf/gti?

    #419 5 years ago
    Quoted from jay:

    I had an E46 (2002 model year) wagon and the only way I could get an old game in was to set the backbox behind the game in the hatch and tie the trunk down. Very risky but I pulled it off once. Otherwise, I couldn't get anything else in. The hatch is just too low for a removed backbox of any sort as far as I could tell. Currently have a 2010 3 wagon and it doesn't fit shit either and there's no way to strap the trunk anymore.

    So width was an issue? Hatch height was just a tad shorter than my vw sportwagen. Much more sloping. I can almost squeeze a wpc game with head folded with no modifications(have to unbolt head and slide down) The X1 was even worse. How do you like the wagon. The interior seems a bit off to me. Not the usual German styling I'm use to.

    #420 5 years ago
    Quoted from Whridlsoncestood:

    So width was an issue? Hatch height was just a tad shorter than my vw sportwagen. Much more sloping. I can almost squeeze a wpc game with head folded with no modifications(have to unbolt head and slide down) The X1 was even worse. How do you like the wagon. The interior seems a bit off to me. Not the usual German styling I'm use to.

    I absolutely love my 2010 3 wagon. I think its one of the last 3 series built without a turbo charger. The interior styling is fine with me—great seats, plenty of room—but the cupholders stink.

    #421 5 years ago
    Quoted from Whridlsoncestood:

    After a day if bouncing around dealers I'm disappointed and feeling like there is no hope to get a good fun car that can fit a pin and come in a manual transmision and isn't a suv. I'm even slightly leaning towards a new GTI and throwing s trailer hitch on it.

    Have you given the Focus ST / RS a try? I've been wondering if the fit would work, it sounds like it might...

    #422 5 years ago
    Quoted from Whridlsoncestood:

    Spent a day driving around dealers. Here is my disappointing conclusions for the day
    Mini
    Love the new mini clubman and the new interior. Top notch stuff. Any options you want all available with a manual transmision. Big downside is the rear door opening. 24" tall. Never getting a game in through that height. Roof climbs right after door opening and has plenty of height. Was really hoping the doors would be taller. The Mini Countryman has been discontinued and being brought back in the early spring. It's suppose to be taller(current one matches my vw sportwagen) and longer. Good chance this could fit one but not sure if I can wait that long on hopes. Possibly even the first diesel mini brings to the US.
    Subaru.
    No luck in the outback. Game fits through the hatch but then has a weird hump halfway in the stops the game. Boooo.
    Forester a game will fit. Seats do not fold flat but have a little hard carpet flap that helps make the height jump. Middles seatbelt comes from the roof so is an annoyance when you are sliding the game in. Gets tangled in it when your pushing it in. Comes in a stick with every option possible EXCEPT navigation! Just the idea of them doing that pisses me off plus I wasn't a fan of its looks in general. Want something lower to the ground for our large husky who's now 9 to jump in and out of the backseat.
    Double checked BMW 3 series wagen again. No stick and very tight game fit. Older games with head off probably. Wpc would be some work.
    Volvo v70 wagon. Too short. 26" tops. Maybe an older game. Interior dash and controls are horrendous and confusing compared to other European manufacturers. Big price tag too. Expect to start around 40k and up. Tons of great safety features over the other companies. if you are big on those. Also all automatics.
    Mercedes has a wagon but way over priced for the room and no stick.
    After a day if bouncing around dealers I'm disappointed and feeling like there is no hope to get a good fun car that can fit a pin and come in a manual transmision and isn't a suv. I'm even slightly leaning towards a new GTI and throwing s trailer hitch on it. Stinks to always have to use a trailer. Nice if I'm doing single game transports I can just toss it in the back of the wagon with no hassle but giving up that stick is a hard on for me.

    you are not thinking outside the box - look at this - https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/my-new-1953-pin-hauler

    buy an antique - they are cheap to insure and you pay no taxes - and you can use it for other things - it serves 2 purposes - i had mine at pintastic on Friday - all machines go right in - thanks ed

    #423 5 years ago
    Quoted from edcianci:

    you are not thinking outside the box - look at this - https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/my-new-1953-pin-hauler
    buy an antique - they are cheap to insure and you pay no taxes - and you can use it for other things - it serves 2 purposes - i had mine at pintastic on Friday - all machines go right in - thanks ed

    I've eyed some antique hurses. Problem is I drive across the country and into Canada and back again camping out of my vehicle with my wife and our husky. I need something more reliable for everyday use right now. Convince of always being able to grab a pin in my daily is nice. Eventually I'll buy a cheap second vehicle to haul games but no space for a 3rd car.

    #424 5 years ago
    Quoted from HighVoltage:

    Have you given the Focus ST / RS a try? I've been wondering if the fit would work, it sounds like it might...

    That hatch looks like it starts curving way too soon. Might go in but you're not closing the hatch is my guess.

    #425 5 years ago
    Quoted from Whridlsoncestood:

    I've eyed some antique hurses. Problem is I drive across the country and into Canada and back again camping out of my vehicle with my wife and our husky. I need something more reliable for everyday use right now. Convince of always being able to grab a pin in my daily is nice. Eventually I'll buy a cheap second vehicle to haul games but no space for a 3rd car.

    Do you even have the option of not selling your VW whatever back to Volkswagon? Or is this govt. deal-done and since the pollution stuff ain't working right VW is buying you out and you are going for the ride regardless?

    #426 5 years ago

    Just double checking.... would a F-14 Tomcat & a Firepower fit in a 2014 Ford Transit Connect?

    #427 5 years ago
    Quoted from scampcamp:

    Just double checking.... would a F-14 Tomcat & a Firepower fit in a 2014 Ford Transit Connect?

    Yes.

    #429 5 years ago
    Quoted from Whridlsoncestood:

    I feel the pain. I'm in complete limbo with no solution in sight. I've been pounding the life out of my '11 vw sportwagen diesel. 6 speed manual. I love it. Nearly 170k miles on. Hauls most games I need to in the back and for bigger games,nib or multiple pin hauls it ties my trailer like a champ. Hauls my big husky and camping gear for us with tons of space.
    VW lied and is now going to buy back by car in October. Giving me 15K for it. What to get now? I need a stick. Want a wagon not an SUV or these stupid crossover made up things. They all have less room inside compared to my wagon.
    Love the tdi but bmw 3 series wagon is the only real option there. Already tried and will not fit a machine. Maybe an old balky with head off if you try real hard. Plus not a stick.
    Almost nothing is available in a stick which is furiating. The new sportwagen you can get a 5 speed stick(not the 6 speed I have in my older wagen!) but only on the stripped down base model. So annoying. I've been a lifelong vw guy and drive all sorts of them but this is my everyday car for the family and they are disappointing me.
    Hatch heights are shrinking as well. I'm exhausting a lot of options.
    This weekend I'm going to check out the new designed Mini Cooper clubman. 4 door wagon. Comes in s model and JCW for a nice engine in the near future too. All models available in a stick as well. Rear door is actually the 2 door split design and not a top lift hatch. If this has enough inches in heigh in the rear entry it may be my only option. Priced a few 1000 more than the sportwagen with similar options. My tdi was chipped and a pretty fast machine especially for a diesel. This hopefully is comparable.
    The next one I'm eyeing is the new Volvo v60 wagen. New design. Not sure on hatch heigh. Awd version comes with up to nearly 300 hp engine I believe. No stick though polestar version available as well for a straight up comfortable and safe racing machine!
    Jeep renegades also come in stick. Are a bit shorter for easy loading and very boxey rear hatch that might be tall enough with decent mpg for the jeep family. Not really my cup of tea.

    Funny... We also have aTDI wagen soon to be bought back. I was under the impression that a game would not fit and I never tried. We did pick up a MB GLK250 (2.1L Bluetec diesel) to replace the TDI. I confirmed that a pin fits in this one.

    #430 5 years ago
    Quoted from Whridlsoncestood:

    That hatch looks like it starts curving way too soon. Might go in but you're not closing the hatch is my guess.

    You could always take the "fix" money instead of the buyback. If they do mess up the performance then you could do an aftermarket tune, rid the diesel of the emissions garbage and have a great performing car.

    #431 5 years ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    Do you even have the option of not selling your VW whatever back to Volkswagon? Or is this govt. deal-done and since the pollution stuff ain't working right VW is buying you out and you are going for the ride regardless?

    I can allow them to perform a "fix" that they have not even developed yet and take a 5000$ payout. Problem is my wagon has 170,000 miles and needs two things fixed. A new wiring harness around the injectors and a new DPF(diesel particulate filter on the exhaust). The DPF is a 2k job and most likely clogged due to the over polluting it does. Why take the 5k and dump it all back into a high mileage vehchile that will perform worse and get worse mpg after the fix. Yes I could have it tuned by revo possibly down the line in a year or two once the create one but then the car won't pass emissions in my state (CT)

    #432 5 years ago
    Quoted from kcZ:

    You could always take the "fix" money instead of the buyback. If they do mess up the performance then you could do an aftermarket tune, rid the diesel of the emissions garbage and have a great performing car.

    Have a revo tune now. Car is a beast. Problem is how long before revo can make a new one and then I run into CT emissions problems. Revo might even stay away from this engine after all this mess. So few of them will be left out there why spend the effort making a new tune when they will have so few to sell to.

    #433 5 years ago
    Quoted from Whridlsoncestood:

    I can allow them to perform a "fix" that they have not even developed yet and take a 5000$ payout. Problem is my wagon has 170,000 miles and needs two things fixed. A new wiring harness around the injectors and a new DPF(diesel particulate filter on the exhaust). The DPF is a 2k job and most likely clogged due to the over polluting it does. Why take the 5k and dump it all back into a high mileage vehchile that will perform worse and get worse mpg after the fix. Yes I could have it tuned by revo possibly down the line in a year or two once the create one but then the car won't pass emissions in my state (CT)

    I understand decision. Buyout is the way to go. I wish you well in your hunt for a stick shift vehicle.

    I have a 2003 Saturn wagon I use and it works nicely for me, but many times I wish the auto trans. was a 5-speed stick.

    #434 5 years ago

    Also checked out the jeep renegade last night. Little too tall for me. Nice 6 speed manual transmision. Again can't be put on the navigation package. And that's the only way to get anything besides cloth seats. Cloth seats with my muddy husky after hiking does not clean easily. Plus his fur alone sticks in cloth seats so badly.

    #435 5 years ago
    Quoted from Whridlsoncestood:

    Also checked out the jeep renegade last night. Little too tall for me. Nice 6 speed manual transmision. Again can't be put on the navigation package. And that's the only way to get anything besides cloth seats. Cloth seats with my muddy husky after hiking does not clean easily. Plus his fur alone sticks in cloth seats so badly.

    Vinyl seat covers might be an option if you can get all the other stars to line up.

    1 week later
    #436 5 years ago

    I'm about to wash and detail my new pinball hauler.

    This is how we roll in the south!

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    #437 5 years ago

    here is another one of my weird pinball haulers that I just picked up at an antique auction - it's a modified mazda pickup converted to a convertible with a Ferrari body kit. yes I know it's ugly to at least 50% of the people out there. thanks ed

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    #438 5 years ago
    Quoted from edcianci:

    modified mazda pickup converted to a convertible with a Ferrari body kit. yes I know it's ugly to at least 50% of the people out there

    I think the kit is nice, but I'd take the ferrari logos off.

    #439 5 years ago
    Quoted from edcianci:

    here is another one of my weird pinball haulers that I just picked up at an antique auction - it's a modified mazda pickup converted to a convertible with a Ferrari body kit. yes I know it's ugly to at least 50% of the people out there. thanks ed

    what a strange find, drop in a cassette of the Miami Vice sound track, and Jan Hammer your way down the road. I'd have a hard time passing it up, just to own and drive that insanity for a brief moment.

    #440 5 years ago

    This is what i haul my pinballs in a 1984 Toyota Torago van mine the one on the left (UGU 395) done over 563000 Km and still runs just, not many around anymore

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    #441 5 years ago

    I decided to give my son my '06 4-Runner, and did some serious research before I decided on a '16 Highlander as my replacement. As others have noted, "crossovers" are getting a lot less DMD-friendly. And the OP is right, the hatch opening needs to be able to consume a 31"X31" rectangle, or you'll have to remove the head of the DMD.

    I wanted something a little less truck-like this time around, and I looked at 4 different crossovers. I went to each dealership with a tape measure, and before I test-drove them I measured the hatch and cargo space. In the summary below, Dimensions are LxWxH. Width is measured along the flat top of the hatch (before it starts to turn down). The length (depth) is from the back of the console to the closed hatch. Height is from the top of the hatch opening to whatever the tape measure hits first.

    2016 Toyota Highlander: 79x41x32". Perfect.
    2016 Kia Sorento: 74x43x30.75. 1/4" too short?
    2016 Mazda CX-9: 62x39x29. Too short.
    2016 Nissan Murano: 69x42x28. Too short.

    I'm glad my first choice also happened to be the best pin hauler. If anyone bought one of the other 3 cars and had success loading a folded DMD, please reply to let us know.

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    #442 5 years ago

    2016 Chevy Equinox fits a Pin put an X-Men in it today.

    #443 5 years ago

    2000 Ford Explorer. Drove 12 hours round trip and with 2 adults +baby in the car seat, it worked perfect. There's even enough room for diaper duty next to the pin in the back haha. Considering it's a system 3, and we had room to spare, I'd call it a solid single pin plus guests (helpers) hauler.

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    #444 5 years ago

    Just picked up a 2016 Chevrolet Suburban LT. This should also apply for the 2015 as well since it's the same design.

    The good news is the width and length of the rear cargo area is the same (4'x8'). The not so good news is the height of the opening into the back has been reduced by 4". The third row seat is now bolted to the floor (non-removable). So, to make the loading area flat, they added this plastic wedge shaped storage bin that's as high as the folded up third row seats. This makes the effective load height right at 32" to get it into the rear cargo area. The problem is getting it in the opening. Once inside, there is 36" of height from the headliner to the loading floor.

    Luckily you can remove this storage bin by lifting out the liner and removing the two large bolts holding it to the floor. This gives you 36" of clearance to get the game into the back area, but the third row seat is at 36" from the opening; so you'll have to lift the game up on the top of the folder rear seats and push the game in. You could unbolt and remove the rear seats from the floor but it's not something you'd want to do with any regularity.

    Leaving the storage bin in place is not an issue with most standard DMD games I've measured most at 29" folded up. But games like Safecracker and Banzai Run will have to have the rear cargo tray removed as they are too tall (SC at 32.5") to get into the opening.

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    #445 5 years ago

    I was able to fit a 1990's Bally in a 2010 Ford Edge with head folded down... plenty of room left on the side for a dolly. It's nice that the lower latch doesn't stick up like it did on my Honda Odyssey, making it safe to slide in without much worry. The Edge didn't show up on my original "fits a pinball radar" so I'm glad I stumbled into it, nice vehicle.

    #447 5 years ago

    I've eyed the edge because of its boxy design. Assuming most any game will fit but the MPG on those things kills it for me. I do a ton of driving and would cost me a fortune.

    Quoted from Baiter:

    I was able to fit a 1990's Bally in a 2010 Ford Edge with head folded down... plenty of room left on the side for a dolly. It's nice that the lower latch doesn't stick up like it did on my Honda Odyssey, making it safe to slide in without much worry. The Edge didn't show up on my original "fits a pinball radar" so I'm glad I stumbled into it, nice vehicle.

    #448 5 years ago
    Quoted from Whridlsoncestood:

    I've eyed the edge because of its boxy design. Assuming most any game will fit but the MPG on those things kills it for me. I do a ton of driving and would cost me a fortune.

    I know what you mean, when I bought my Prius I calculated $150/month in fuel savings over my Honda Odyssey. Since then prices have dropped about 40%, so it's easier to justify a 285 HP vehicle... it doesn't imply fuel efficiency, but it does imply fun.

    Think about it though... what are the options for fuel efficient pinball haulers? It's a tiny list, and most of them are still under 30mpg. Whenever they invent a 250 HP, 40 MPG pin hauler that's good in snow, I'm all in.

    #449 5 years ago
    Quoted from Baiter:

    I know what you mean, when I bought my Prius I calculated $150/month in fuel savings over my Honda Odyssey. Since then prices have dropped about 40%, so it's easier to justify a 285 HP vehicle... it doesn't imply fuel efficiency, but it does imply fun.
    Think about it though... what are the options for fuel efficient pinball haulers? It's a tiny list, and most of them are still under 30mpg. Whenever they invent a 250 HP, 40 MPG pin hauler that's good in snow, I'm all in.

    Hence my dilemma. I have just that now and need to replace it!

    #450 5 years ago

    Bah! Currently my Durango R/T is sitting right at 12.6 mpg in the city on this tank. It can get 26 on the Highway if I don't push it, but the Hemi makes me smile every time, so that doesn't happen

    Live life and enjoy! Drive what you want to.

    Chris

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