Quoted from MrBally:Does it need to be a Ford?
Hey, don't knock it. I've had my 2012 Escape since it was almost new. I'm at 160k and the thing just keeps going. I've had a few things to fix over the years, the AC being the biggest one. Otherwise, almost only routine maintenance.
And it is a kick ass pin hauler. So far, anything I've thrown at it has fit.
Mine is the 4 cylinder, and it's a dog. Don't expect to go anywhere fast. But it always goes.
Quoted from PinJim:Hey, don't knock it. I've had my 2012 Escape since it was almost new. I'm at 160k and the thing just keeps going. I've had a few things to fix over the years, the AC being the biggest one. Otherwise, almost only routine maintenance.
And it is a kick ass pin hauler. So far, anything I've thrown at it has fit.
Mine is the 4 cylinder, and it's a dog. Don't expect to go anywhere fast. But it always goes.
100% agree
My 2006 Escape (same gen) is at 194000 and has easily fit NIB pins. Best friend has a 2010 at 201000 and still chugging along.
Quoted from PinJim:Hey, don't knock it.
Quoted from SkyJammer:100% agree
Fun story: While we currently still own a Ford van, I'll likely never buy a Ford again. I bought a 2015 Fiesta ST new and LOVED it. It was the most fun car I ever owned (including my supercharged Miata)...before I filed a lemon law claim and Ford bought it back. Thankfully I kept many pages of notes. It had a loooong list of problems. Just some of the issues:
-Steering wheel makes squeaking/grinding noise that you can feel in wheel when turned when car is parked and running. Brake pedal makes intermittent squeaking/grinding noise (identical to steering wheel) you can feel in pedal. THEY REPLACED THE ENTIRE STEERING COLUMN TRYING TO FIX THIS ISSUE, AND WHEN THE PROBLEMS REMAINED THEY DEEMED THEM NORMAL!
-Tachometer jumps and makes accompanying clicking/buzzing noise during first 5 minutes of running as it descends down to 800RPMs. A noisy and jumpy tach! I've driven many hundreds of cars and have never seen this.
The kicker? The car had less than 10k miles. Having said all that, the two Ford vans we've had with a total of 250k miles have been great. But between the service from the dealer, the manufacturer, and the car itself, I can't see myself owning another.
Quoted from Pinster5000:I have a 23 Jeep grand Cherokee altitude, stern does fit…….. BUT, I was unaware sterns needed a little more vertical clearance. It was a pain. Before I bought the vehicle I measured my cgc game for vertical clearance and it fits perfectly, I thought sterns would be the same. NOPE! I did get it to fit but I had to take off the ceiling panel by the trunk, not ideal. Next time I’m taking the head off of sterns unfortunately.
Yes, when your measured clearance is at about 31-inches the variance in manufacturer designs comes into play.
I should probably change 31” to 32”, to allow for any ongoing size variations.
Robert
The clearance of 31 or 32 inches necessary is a vertical measurement with no obstructions, like a raised lip on the bottom.
My guess is that all mfg games won’t fit. You might find some that will fit.
Robert
the measurement must also be taken 15 inches from the center of the opening , because a game head is 30 inches wide , so 15 inches each side of center , then you measure the distance down , so any curved top entrance your out of luck
Quoted from luch:the measurement must also be taken 15 inches from the center of the opening , because a game head is 30 inches wide , so 15 inches each side of center , then you measure the distance down , so any curved top entrance your out of luck
Very good point to mention.
Robert
So it seems Kia Sorento 2023/2024 Hybrid is cutting it too close. Toyota just came out with a 2024 Grand Hylander Hybrid. A little more pricey, but from people's measurements online, it seems to have a 32" opening. I'll have to go see one in person.
What about a Prius 2014 v5?
It looks like that model has an extended hatchback area?
https://www.kbb.com/toyota/prius-v/2014/
Quoted from girloveswaffles:So i saw one question about this in the topic, but no answer: Will a Mitsubishi Outlander fit a pin? Asking because it's one of the new vehicles I'm looking into possibly getting.
year? and model?
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/vehicles-that-a-pinball-machine-fits-in/page/27#post-5438030
Older outlander fit one, but the sport may be short....
Quoted from girloveswaffles:So i saw one question about this in the topic, but no answer: Will a Mitsubishi Outlander fit a pin? Asking because it's one of the new vehicles I'm looking into possibly getting.
No problem fitting a pinball in a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV19, a EUR-pallet fits as well.
20231207_085044 (resized).jpgQuoted from darkpinball:No problem fitting a pinball in a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV19, a EUR-pallet fits as well.
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I always found it annoying that Mitsubishi removed the drop down tailgate on the Outlander. My 2008 Outlander has it, and it makes loading pinballs in an absolute breeze.
PXL_20230317_205826692 (resized).jpgPXL_20240108_175542346 (resized).jpgQuoted from trolldownstairs:I always found it annoying that Mitsubishi removed the drop down tailgate on the Outlander. My 2008 Outlander has it, and it makes loading pinballs in an absolute breeze.
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I loved that feature and also miss it
Quoted from JohnMatrix:Anyone try to fit one in a 2021 model year or newer Tahoe?
It's crazy to think it might not fit with how big a Tahoe is, but I had to remove a plastic in my 2019 Tahoe to get a Stern to fit. I'm not sure about the 2021 or newer model.
Quoted from Monk:It's crazy to think it might not fit with how big a Tahoe is, but I had to remove a plastic in my 2019 Tahoe to get a Stern to fit. I'm not sure about the 2021 or newer model.
The new model Tahoe's are bigger and have a flat trunk vs. the bump in the older models. 32' clearance so most machines 'should' fit, but was hoping for some real world feedback.
Does anyone know if a Williams widebody will fit in a 2022 Santa Fe?
Have some logistics issues getting this game and this all I have available to me. Prefer not to have to rent a vehicle for the pickup.
Quoted from GCS2000:Does anyone know if a Williams widebody will fit in a 2022 Santa Fe?
Have some logistics issues getting this game and this all I have available to me. Prefer not to have to rent a vehicle for the pickup.
A 2023 Tucson works for a modern Stern, and a Williams is slightly shorter vertically and the Santa Fe is larger, so likely yes, although a larger vehicle can still have a shorter hatch opening.
The widebody part doesn't matter - the backbox is still wider than the playfield/cabinet, but that's 30 inches anyway and every car is wider than that.
I'd say almost certainly yes with the extra step of unbolting the backbox and sliding it down the cabinet towards the coin door if absolutely necessary.
Has anyone transported in a 2023 Hyundai Palisade?
I've seen where a 2021 will fit, but unless my tape measure is off, my 2023 shows a height of 31.5 inches and looks like I would need 32 inches for a modern Stern.
Quoted from luch:for modern stern 30 in is fine
I will have to disagree with this and no I do not know the measurements. I have a 2022 Hyundai Santa Fe it physically measures just over 30 at the opening of the hatch and GZ did not fit in there. about 1/4 or so was left hanging and I had to transport it home that way with the tailgate tied down. Santa Fe had plenty of head room inside but the opening was the issue.
Of course after the fact I found out it would have been a quick simple task to remove the head on a Stern (did not know that before).
I'm going to be in the market for a vehicle in the next 2 months. I know minivans will fit a pin, but what newer model year (2021 or later) SUVs have the hatch clearance required? Only other requirement is that it's big enough to have 3rd row seating
Quoted from mbl1116:I'm going to be in the market for a vehicle in the next 2 months. I know minivans will fit a pin, but what newer model year (2021 or later) SUVs have the hatch clearance required? Only other requirement is that it's big enough to have 3rd row seating
My Dodge Durango has moved many a pin and video game. Mine is a 2015 but they haven't changed since then, at least in the back. I've had very good luck with mine. Bought it used in 2016 with 24K miles. It now has 126K miles and I've only done normal routine maintenance. I don't baby it and it has been a great vehicle for me. I can move a pin and still have one passenger in the 2nd row if needed.
It has moved many a machine in the 7 years I've had it. I have not moved a JJP or Gottlieb System 3 so I can't comment on those but it has moved pretty much every era of Williams machine.
Chris
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I did a bunch of research a year ago in this thread, starting from here: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/vehicles-that-a-pinball-machine-fits-in/page/45#post-7442634
Although I wasn't trying any with 3rd row seating, that's a different category. Anything with 3rd row seating should be tall enough, though the question is whether the seats in both the 2nd and 3rd rows fold down enough.
Need some help.
Have a 2022 Santa Fe and I was unable to transport a GZ Premium in this car (height issues)
I am assuming if that won't fit I am definitely not getting a JJP POTC in the car or a CGC MMRLE.
I have measured and measurements say its close, real close but this is the only vehicle I have available to me and I am supposed to make the 12 hour round trip next weekend. Hate to rent a car but might have to.
Quoted from GCS2000:Need some help.
Have a 2022 Santa Fe and I was unable to transport a GZ Premium in this car (height issues)
I am assuming if that won't fit I am definitely not getting a JJP POTC in the car or a CGC MMRLE.
I have measured and measurements say its close, real close but this is the only vehicle I have available to me and I am supposed to make the 12 hour round trip next weekend. Hate to rent a car but might have to.
Stern games are bigger than CGC and jjp games.
Quoted from Lermods:Stern games are bigger than CGC and jjp games.
Really?
So you are saying there is a chance, lol.
Guess the only REAL way to know is pack a game and try to load it. I have measure every way I can and its close for sure.
I don't want to entertain head removal either at least not on these games.
Quoted from GCS2000:Really?
So you are saying there is a chance, lol.
Guess the only REAL way to know is pack a game and try to load it. I have measure every way I can and its close for sure.
I don't want to entertain head removal either at least not on these games.
I think you only need around 29” for a bw, jjp and CGC game. Stern is 30-1/4”.
Quoted from Lermods:I think you only need around 29” for a bw, jjp and CGC game. Stern is 30-1/4”.
I guess I need to bust out the tape measure again. Really would help me if I can make my car work for the job.
POTC is definitely not a game I want to move more than once (heck don't want to move it all tbh)
Quoted from GCS2000:Super tight if at all. Used a piece of luggage it is 30.5” high 20” wide. It slides in but very tight. Can gain hair of space if I remove the rubber mat in the back. [quoted image][quoted image]
Surprised a GZ would not fit with 30.5. I have a 2019 pilot and I have 30.5”. Fits a stern game, including GZ with about 1/4” to spare. I’ve hauled di, jjp Potc, hobbit, mmr and a ton of bw games, never an issue.
That cardboard on the bottom shouldn’t be there and your floor should be down to just the stock carpet, no mats, blankets or anything else. 30.5 will fit a stern. Maybe your opening has a curve to it so it’s not 30.5” across the full width?
What you could do is remove the hinge from the side of the game and slide the head a little forward.
Quoted from northvibe:year? and model?
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/vehicles-that-a-pinball-machine-fits-in/page/27#post-5438030
Older outlander fit one, but the sport may be short....
I thought "New Vehicle" covered that but a 2023 / 24
Quoted from girloveswaffles:I thought "New Vehicle" covered that but a 2023 / 24
Making an assumption. Many people say they are getting a new vehicle and that could be a used or only a few years old. But it’s new to them.
Confirmed: the following pins will fit in a Mk4 Jetta Wagon under the conditions that the headliner back panel is removed (easily done by hand) and the back box lock is removed from the receiver side.
Williams System 11b/c from BK2000 and beyond. Folded, no need to detach backbox from hinges.
Gottlieb System 3 with the head detached and slid down to the lockdown bar (easiest to detach with the head folded already). Harness does not need to be unplugged from boards.
Sega Big DMD games with head slid down (easiest to detach from inside the backbox with the DMD lowered). Harness does not need to be unplugged from boards.
Has anyone moved a modern Stern in a 2015 era Durango? I have moved System 11 and WPC with no issue, and even a Lord of the Rings, but nothing new. Picking up a Stranger Things on Saturday and want to make sure I won't have an issue.
Thanks!
Chris
Quoted from vikingerik:Pretty sure modern Sterns are the same size as LOTR. TSPP fits the same as modern games in my car (Honda HR-V.) Modern Stern is only about an inch taller when folded than WPC. Worst case is you unbolt the head and slide the backbox down the glass towards the coin door.
Modern Sterns have a bit of hard plastic that sticks out where the power cord goes into the backbox. Have to account for that as well
Quoted from mbl1116:Modern Sterns have a bit of hard plastic that sticks out where the power cord goes into the backbox. Have to account for that as well
I usually remove it, it’s just held on with tape of some sort.
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