(Topic ID: 200778)

Valuing a pin that needs playfield swap


By enkiktd

1 year ago



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#1 1 year ago

Hey guys,

I'm looking at a pin for sale where the current playfield is rough, but the seller has an extra playfield ready to swap in. Obviously this is a lot of work, so how would you go about valuing the machine plus the playfield knowing this is work you'll have to do?

Bonus info: Jurassic Park, no topper, was routed, cabinet touched up in a bunch of places, evidence of lockbar

#2 1 year ago

Start by evaluating the project game and the spare playfield separately.

#3 1 year ago

Are you basically asking how much you should "charge" to do a playfield swap?

#4 1 year ago

rough players condition (assuming it works) puts it bottom of market + value of playfield. You have to assume that some buyers might sell the playfield so it has no other value than that.

#5 1 year ago

playfield swap is a huge undertaking. Take that in account. If I have to do a swap myself, I consider it at least $700 discount because that's how much work it is. If the new field isnt' dimpled, that's even more work.

#6 1 year ago

Sellers don't look at it like they should discount it for something you want to do. That's a end benefit for you not them I have a routed 5k market value game but restorations cost are 3k. Now i should sell for 2k? Maybe I should restore the 5k game and sell for 8k. Just a example. The charge for the swap shouldn't go back on the seller is all I'm saying.

#7 1 year ago

Value it for the condition as it sits--not its future or restored value.

#8 1 year ago

Fair assessment, thanks guys!

#9 1 year ago
Quoted from patrickvc:

Sellers don't look at it like they should discount it for something you want to do. That's a end benefit for you not them I have a routed 5k market value game but restorations cost are 3k. Now i should sell for 2k? Maybe I should restore the 5k game and sell for 8k. Just a example. The charge for the swap shouldn't go back on the seller is all I'm saying.

well then the game restored would be worth 8k and not 5k. When i buy games that need work, I take in account all the work they need. If they are trying to get "going rate" for a game that needs a ton of work, they will not get it. Thats the whole point in buying games that are rougher or project games. You get them cheap. If i'm buying a TAF with a totally blown out playfield. You can bet there is no way in fawking hell i'm paying anywhere close to 4-5k. This is where newbies usually fail. They look at a game regardless of condition and think it's worth the same as a game that doesn't need a playfield swap. So what happens. They end up overpaying.

#10 1 year ago

Some games with worn playfields don't "need a playfield swap", they just need to be played more and looked at less. Doing a swap takes a long time and is a labor of love that is hard to recoup in dollars.

#11 1 year ago

you are right. Sometimes they don't need a swap when they are blown out. But then they better be priced as "players" machines, which should be drastically reduced in price.

#12 1 year ago

If I had a chance to get a great machine and a new field a little cheaper I would go for it. Of course it was my business I would feel differently but ripping it apart and going through every screw is part of the fun for me. Games I have restored will be the last to go. Games I bought in "good" shape just don't have the same connection.

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