I've never seen anyone sign a playfield like that. I would subtract money, not add.

I would agree. epic fail. sign backglass, arch, or game card, but center of playfield ruins the game value.

Agreed you should try and remove it, just totally devalues it in my opinion.

I removed the autograph from the last game I bought that had one (it was Trudeau, so NOPE). The scribble adds nothing for me, unless it’s something I got myself to remind myself of the time I met said celeb.

I had an awesome autographed playfield once, but after a bit of Novus, ...

Here is the objective truth.

The band members autographed the wrong area, and the signatures are slowly disappearing with every ball plunge.
Normally, the only way that autographs add any value is on the back glass, in an appropriate location where they can "seen but not heard". For example, I have MANY translites and backglasses signed by designers/artists, but it would apply to movie stars, rock stars, and sports athletes as well. Anywhere else, and people generally don't care, because they are not visible anyway. On the other hand, this is MUCH TOO VISIBLE.

Essentially sharpie shorthand, on a worn playfield, which is a serious negative no-no, and results in added subtraction of game value on the order of several hundred dollars. If the playfield was a freestanding wall hanger stripped to the bone, it might be worth a few extra dollars with actual verification. One this thing that has not been mentioned is certificates of authenticity. If you do not have them, the signatures must be verified, or its just a claim. Any serious buyer is going to ask this question when you put them up for sale.

Regardless, people for years have tried to tout and convince others, KISS as a great pinball machine, but only in the eyes of select fans, not discriminating pinball owners, who simply know there are many better games out there.

Best of Luck

If you are trying to sell these, you should target people who are more of a fan of the group then pinball people I would think. I am sure there is a KISS fan out there who would think its awesome it was signed like that. Maybe post in a KISS forum or something.

Yeah....if you have proof of legit signatures it will help.

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My dialed In is worth millions. To me.

LTG : )

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Wouldn't add anything to me. If I were to do it I'd probably have them sign the backglass or perhaps just on transparency papers. That way you could cut them to size and put them over the instruction cards.

I had Pat Lawlor sign my ES PF when I bought it from him. I kind of wish I hadn't.

That Spaceman pic isn't Ace it's Eric Singer. That is who should have signed that game.

I'm meeting up with Ace next week in Minneapolis and am going to bring along my KISS 79' backglass and have him sign it. I don't care if it adds value, just think it will look cool. I had Gilby Clarke sign my Guns N Roses custom scorecard and Bruce Kulick sign the scorecard on my Stern KISS. Just a a nice little touch. I was going to have Ted sign my Nugent backglass, but I sold the game before I could meet up in person.

How do you just meet up with Ace?

Doesn't add value. For some it detracts. For many where it is may detract. I have had a few signed games and never cared.

There's a paid event around here. Pay $149 for a photo and signature.

To some rock/pin fans, an autographed pinball machine definitely adds some value if done in a tasteful way.

The same goes for street rods. Every year guys clamor to car shows to have Paul LeMat, Candy Clark, Bo Hopkins, famous race car drivers, and any other hot rod-related celebrity out there sign the dash of their cars.

If you build a '32 Graffiti Coupe clone there's nothing better than having Paul LeMat sign the glove box door with a sharpie.

If I had a celebrity sign a pinball playfield though, I'd want it to be a nice one - not some blown out one. After it was signed I'd have it clear-coated for posterity. I'd love to have Ace sign my '79 Kiss machine. I'd probably have him sign the backglass with a silver sharpie though so it would stand out. To have all four original bandmembers sign the backglass would definitely add value to a Kiss machine for me.

The rock-themed pins are my favorites. They hold value that goes far beyond a pinball machine. They are actual pieces of rock history. Even people who don't necessarily like pinball love the rock-themed pins. Especially the Bally pins like Kiss and Rolling Stones when the bands were in their prime (or closer to it than they are today).

Living celebrities don't typically add value unfortunately. I see it all the time in guitar sales. But once they're dead, these could be worth something. I say hang onto them!

Really interested in how you got three members of The Who, and others, to sign your machines — most do the backglass just because you can haul it to the show a lot easier!

Dude, whatever with these guys. I for one can appreciate it and it would mos def add value to me. If you can get matt groening to come by my house I'd be indebted.

Right but wouldn’t the real value be that YOU had Matt Groening sign YOUR game and the experience attached to that, not that someone had him sign their game and you somehow ended up with it?

I don’t blame people who like getting stuff signed at all btw, it’s just not for me.

Wasn’t there a signed Data East Signed Wars that sold for big bucks here on pinside?

Similarly I have an original Kiss playfield signed by Ace....he stared at it and asked where do I sign....told him anywhere he wanted. Told me he had never signed one before LOL...I am sure there is lots he does not remember from back in the day.

Got Peter Criss to sign it as well and he did not remember ever signing one before.

Now mine is a restored original playfield...for a wall hanger.

Signed items are hard to value....it’s the subject matter, whose signature and how rare/desirable an item is. Tons of backglasses have been signed by Kiss over the years. Playfields...not many if any have all 4 signatures.

So for pricing establish a base price for the item alone then add what the signature is worth. If the item is rare and desirable it can add value.....pins are niche...rock memorabilia collectors are picky about condition and rarity of items. If it is in excellent condition, rare, and desirable top dollar can be asked.

Also the condition of the signature matters. Nice crisp preserved ones display better and can be worth more.......

I saw a KISS pin with the 4 signatures on the plastics. Looked legit. Backglass is alway legit as well.

I signed my own machine tho, cuz I’m a mutha Fkn Bawwwse!

-Wolfemaan The Bawwwse!

Here you go, $15K

losangeles.craigslist.org link

Let’s see how he does

Very cool, the sentimental value of that is priceless.

I think you should leave that one alone man, those signatures are at least legible and in ok spots. An a EM Wizzard in decent shape is worth $500-600, as your KISS would probably fetch double or even triple that.

I think its very cool. I'm sure someone mentioned this, but u might want to put mylar over those signatures so they don't wear off.

My TAF came with a bunch of signatures on it but seller didn't factor that into the selling price thankfully. Also thankfully I sold my TOTAN with jpoop's signature on it before crap hit the fan with his company otherwise it would have probably de-valued my pin a bit

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$5500

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I got to go backstage at a Kiss show in Houston during the last tour that included Ace and Peter and a guy had his Kiss machine there. They all signed the backglass and made a big deal about it. All of them seemed really nice and genuine. They all hammed it up and showed the people a good time. For $1000 a pop I would think they would though. I didn't pay that, I just stood at the door and bothered them till they let me in.

George Gomez has the best signature in pinball. Looks great on LOTR LE.