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Value of restored keeper


By bbhenry2000

1 year ago



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    #1 1 year ago

    So I'm starting a restoration of Evel Knievel because for me, it's a keeper. This game will never leave my collection. It didn't take long to realize that this investment was going to far surpass the resale value of the game. I honestly don't care as this is a labor of love, but it did get me wondering. Do you have one or more keepers in your collection and if so, does the money invested really even matter to you when it come to them? Feel free to share what game will never leave your collection.

    #2 1 year ago

    People throw around ‘keeper’ a lot or say ‘it’ll never leave my collection’ on here and then a year or 3 years later it turns out it wasn’t such a keeper when something better shows up or something in life happens or the right price is offered.. that said, sopranos and shadow are my two favorites right now. But there are games on the horizon that could probably get me to sell sopranos eventually. Not so sure about shadow.

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    #3 1 year ago

    I think it’s mostly about the collector. whatever floats your boat. No one said you have to sell games on the regular.

    #4 1 year ago

    For me and I assume others it often boils down to real estate. Sadly these are not watch sized collectibles. (Nor do they weigh as much) it’s almost like collecting comfy sofas. Eventually something has to give and buying a larger house to support this addiction is not a viable option. Sometimes you have to make tough choices to feed that addiction lol. I do still have a beautiful to me Alien Poker that most would dislike but for me it was my first gateway into this hobby some 20 years ago. The first $100 crazy step towards this all consuming hobby. I guess that would be my keeper but more for personal vs monetary reasons.

    #5 1 year ago

    Every game in my collection is a keeper. Pins that will never leave are my 1978 - 81 SS Bally era collection (Six Million Dollar Man, Bobby Orr Power Play, Harlem Globetrotters, Rolling Stones & Eight Ball Deluxe. Took me over 8 years of extensive searching to acquire these great titles along with their respective NOS replacement playfields and backglasses. Nostalgia hits home here, as these are the games I first played. Money does not play a role in reviving these games to their former glory. My preference is to take a game that requires renovation over a restoration. Enjoy the pics.

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    #6 1 year ago

    More eye candy. The only pins I have purchased which did not require restoration are the Monopoly and TSPP. The Bally collection staged in the dining area will be moved to an adjoining room except for the Diner pin. The goal is to recreate a 50’s era kitchen and dining area complete with bowling lane countertops. The only item left to acquire is a Seeburg M100W jukebox. The joy is in the search.

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    #7 1 year ago

    So very hard to define a keeper. I feel like it's hard to really look down the road and know. I've had games that I lusted after, got, swore they would never leave and they have come and gone. But, that said, I often wind up doing restorations and get upside-down in them. Or I will overpay for a game based on my desire for it. It's part of the hobby I guess. I had a ratty TAFG a few years back. Swore it would never leave, and I did a no-holds-barred resto on it. New gold, restored playfield, even down to new one-way screws for the plaque and getting a repro certificate for it. I wound up selling it. I think I broke even if I don't take into account my time on it.

    #8 1 year ago

    The act and satisfaction of restoring a pin is the value in itself. I put a lot more money than I should have restoring a F14 Tomcat last year. But the enjoyment it gave me was worth it and I was lucky enough to sell it at a price that I broke even.

    #9 1 year ago
    Quoted from Cleanroom:

    Every game in my collection is a keeper. Pins that will never leave are my 1978 - 81 SS Bally era collection (Six Million Dollar Man, Bobby Orr Power Play, Harlem Globetrotters, Rolling Stones & Eight Ball Deluxe. Took me over 8 years of extensive searching to acquire these great titles along with their respective NOS replacement playfields and backglasses. Nostalgia hits home here, as these are the games I first played. Money does not play a role in reviving these games to their former glory. My preference is to take a game that requires renovation over a restoration. Enjoy the pics.

    You've got some seriously cool stuff there.

    #10 1 year ago
    Quoted from Crile1:

    The act and satisfaction of restoring a pin is the value in itself. I put a lot more money than I should have restoring a F14 Tomcat last year. But the enjoyment it gave me was worth it and I was lucky enough to sell it at a price that I broke even.

    Aside from the fact that I wanted to be Evel Knievel (as most other guys my age did back then), you know the whole Nostalgia and longing for yesteryear thing, I believe you are on to something with your statement. "The act and satisfaction of restoring a pin is the value in itself." There is a very gratifying feeling when working on these old machines and breathing new life into them. I think the difference, for me, is the level to which particular games are restored. I would like to improve the condition of every game I get my hands on, yet not every machine will get the top to bottom, no expense spared treatment.

    #11 1 year ago
    Quoted from NJGecko:

    So very hard to define a keeper.

    Keeper (noun) definition: "everything I own" pretty much sums it up for me.

    Bought my first pin in 1994 and my sixteenth pin in 2014. Have never sold or traded any.
    Bought my first electric guitar in early 1965 and my ninth in 2014. Still have all of them.

    I have saved up for and then ordered five new cars since 1995 and I still have them all:
    '96 mystic paint SVT Mustang Cobra with 7 miles on the odometer
    '01 mineral grey SVT Cobra (with '03 Mach1 factory shaker hood added) with 55 miles
    '08 torch red with black stripes Shelby GT500 with 9 miles on the odometer
    '13 inferno orange with exposed carbon fiber hood insert Camaro ZL1 with 8 miles
    '13 gotta-have-it green Mustang Boss 302 with 13,500 miles (daily driver in good weather)

    #12 1 year ago

    I have overt 4K in my Evel Knievel. New NOS Playfield. New plastics, all light sockets replaced, all targets and switches replaced. All posts and rubbers. All Alltek boards, clear coat for playfield and cabinet. Now I decided to order new chrome rails and lock down for hotrod plating. Also ordered white and blue score boards. It is a keeper now because I will never get my money back if I sold it. I have a lot in the KISS I just restored also

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    #13 1 year ago
    Quoted from tatman9999:

    I have overt 4K in my Evel Knievel. New NOS Playfield. New plastics, all light sockets replaced, all targets and switches replaced. All posts and rubbers. All Alltek boards, clear coat for playfield and cabinet. Now I decided to order new chrome rails and lock down for hotrod plating. Also ordered white and blue score boards. It is a keeper now because I will never get my money back if I sold it. I have a lot in the KISS I just restored also

    That's beautiful.

    #14 1 year ago
    Quoted from tatman9999:

    I have overt 4K in my Evel Knievel. New NOS Playfield. New plastics, all light sockets replaced, all targets and switches replaced. All posts and rubbers. All Alltek boards, clear coat for playfield and cabinet. Now I decided to order new chrome rails and lock down for hotrod plating. Also ordered white and blue score boards. It is a keeper now because I will never get my money back if I sold it. I have a lot in the KISS I just restored also

    Actually, your restoration was what inspired me to go from just updating mine to a full blown restoration. Your work is beautiful.

    #15 1 year ago

    That is money well spent. Breathtaking to see my favorite era Bally’s in a showroom condition. Well done!

    #16 1 year ago

    Can you upload or provide a link to this eye catching Evel Knieval pin restoration in gameplay action?

    #17 1 year ago
    Quoted from Mbecker:

    People throw around ‘keeper’ a lot or say ‘it’ll never leave my collection’ on here and then a year or 3 years later it turns out it wasn’t such a keeper when something better shows up or something in life happens or the right price is offered..

    You can say that it's a keeper and will never be sold. Now if that is actually true it is priceless, but if not then there is some number that will rip the game out of your hands:
    What if I gave you $6500?
    What if I gave you $8500?
    What if I gave you $15000?
    $100K by Christmas?

    That is one of the finest EKs I have ever seen.

    #18 1 year ago

    Beautiful EK! Actually stunning !! You won't be sorry with the HRA chrome...

    #19 1 year ago

    I have done 8 restorations to date. Been in the hobby almost 10 years already, man time flies! I only own one of these games, which is shown in my avatar. True, you will never get your money back out of a game, you may break even if you don't count the hours of labor. The F2K here won a blue ribbon, so I say it's a keeper, but the right offer might let me sell.

    #20 1 year ago
    Quoted from Cleanroom:

    Can you upload or provide a link to this eye catching Evel Knieval pin restoration in gameplay action?

    I will take some video and upload it to Youtube.

    #21 1 year ago
    Quoted from Lovef2k:

    I have done 8 restorations to date. Been in the hobby almost 10 years already, man time flies! I only own one of these games, which is shown in my avatar. True, you will never get your money back out of a game, you may break even if you don't count the hours of labor. The F2K here won a blue ribbon, so I say it's a keeper, but the right offer might let me sell.

    Lets see some pics of your restores. Always nice to see those old pins restored.

    #22 1 year ago
    Quoted from Lovef2k:

    I have done 8 restorations to date. Been in the hobby almost 10 years already, man time flies! I only own one of these games, which is shown in my avatar. True, you will never get your money back out of a game, you may break even if you don't count the hours of labor. The F2K here won a blue ribbon, so I say it's a keeper, but the right offer might let me sell.

    I just picked up one of lovef2k ‘s restores. His work is incredible!

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    #23 1 year ago

    Waiting on a new apron so the old one is in there for the time being. Couldn’t wait to pick it up so I was fine with the old one for now.

    #24 1 year ago

    Love the signature EBD on the backside. First time I have seen this; great artistic flare. Beautiful restoration!!!

    #25 1 year ago
    Quoted from Pmaino:

    Waiting on a new apron so the old one is in there for the time being. Couldn’t wait to pick it up so I was fine with the old one for now.

    Looks awesome. Looks better then new. I just got into SS pins. I have always had DMD.

    #26 1 year ago

    Here is a KISS that I just finished was in a fire. Never buy a pin from a fire that has water damage. Had to replace all boards, score boards, transformer, coils. It was a nightmare.

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    #27 1 year ago
    Quoted from tatman9999:

    Looks awesome. Looks better then new. I just got into SS pins. I have always had DMD.

    I started out collecting newer sterns and 90’s DMD’s but as I got to know these pins something has pushed me towards early SS pins. Those pins are gone and pins like EBD, Stars, Fathom and paragon have entered my collection.

    #28 1 year ago

    After $2700

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    #29 1 year ago

    Tatman, your work is impeccable. Drops mike....

    #30 1 year ago
    Quoted from Pmaino:

    I just picked up one of lovef2k ‘s restores. His work is incredible!

    Now that's an 8-Ball that really does look Deluxe!

    Money well spent. You didn't Kiss that money goodbye.

    #31 1 year ago

    wow amazing!!! EK AND KISS sweet and EBD

    #32 1 year ago
    Quoted from bbhenry2000:

    So I'm starting a restoration of Evel Knievel because for me, it's a keeper. This game will never leave my collection. It didn't take long to realize that this investment was going to far surpass the resale value of the game.

    If it is the EM version, people pay over 5 figures for them and to them it is the holy grail of all Ballys.

    #33 1 year ago
    Quoted from o-din:

    If it is the EM version, people pay over 5 figures for them and to them it is the holy grail of all Ballys.

    Judging by his pictures it is not the EM. version. See the difference?

    John

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    #34 1 year ago
    Quoted from Dayhuff:

    Judging by his pictures it is not the EM. version. See the difference?

    Oh, I know the difference, but I didn't see any of his pictures or mention of which version he has.

    I guess by clicking on his collection link it does show the SS, but that is not always accurate.

    #35 1 year ago

    Correct, mine is the SS version.

    #36 1 year ago
    Quoted from Dayhuff:

    Judging by his pictures it is not the EM. version. See the difference?
    John

    What’s up with the 2 Mata Hari?

    #37 1 year ago

    Twins are more fun together?

    #38 1 year ago

    For me it's my BOP 2.0. I played the original back in the day . It was my first pinball machine I purchased to start my collection . Since then she's gotten new everything. Playfield, ramps , plastics,blah blah blah . Had to have the DP 2.0 kit and recently she got transplanted into a virtuapin cabniet. So yeah , lots of money into it but It just doesn't matter to me. She's never leaving!

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    #39 1 year ago

    I bought a new CPR playfield yesterday and then went on a spending spree buying parts. The wife asked me how much I've spent so far. I laughed at her. She understood. Lol

    #40 1 year ago

    Wow, that took guts to go after a project like that. Nice work! Another Bally SS saved...

    #41 1 year ago
    Quoted from Pmaino:

    I just picked up one of lovef2k ‘s restores. His work is incredible!

    Thanks Pete! There will be more to follow

    #42 1 year ago

    I can occasionally accept losing $800 when I sell a game that I invested almost no time in. I know that I can make that up with a few days’ work, or when I sell another game. But I’d have a really hard time selling a game that I’ve put more than 80 hours into, even if I turned a profit. WW, BK and Space Station are keepers to me because I put a substantial chunk of my life into them, at least 2 weeks each.

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