(Topic ID: 262365)

Users gaming the Pinside achievement system

By flynnibus

3 months ago

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    #1 3 months ago

    It became obvious the other day users are resorting to lying and faking stuff to simply get their pinside achievements. Can you believe people would stoop this low for what are worthless, buried, badges on pinside?

    Locals noticed a ton of Pin Map edits happening in our area yesterday... at locations we all knew there were not pinball machines. People were like 'woah, times are a changing! it's everywhere!'. Turns out... no, it's just losers creating FAKE pin map entries on pinside so they can earn pinside achievements!

    'Oh whats the big deal...' -- Well remember when people make suggestions like 'move pinwiki to pinside...' or 'there should be a price database...' etc. Well Pinside does have a lot of data.. and know what.. that data is followed by people and other systems. So when loser creates a bunch of FAKE entries to boost their own internal scoreboard.. they pollute that data.

    So when you see stuff like this...
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    Know... it can be complete garbage. And in this user's case.. it was garbage.

    The entries have been deleted now.. but the user wouldn't even face up to the questioning of their edits.

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    #8 3 months ago
    Quoted from flecom:

    maybe I'm out of the loop (guaranteed) but what are these achievements and why do they matter?

    See that trophy under your name? That's part of it.. but it doesn't really matter (IMO) but it's one of those things in pinside some like I guess but others ignore.
    The sad part is someone felt they needed to try to scam the system to bolster themselves in a meaningless points system.

    #12 3 months ago
    Quoted from JodyG:

    This reminds me, I had someone PM me asking me to follow them specifically so they could get an achievement. I have had no interaction with the user previously, and the message system would not let me respond since the sender already deleted the message. What a tool.

    I guess people have no shame...

    #15 3 months ago
    Quoted from HighVoltage:

    I always wonder why people feel strong enough to post about drama like this, but then protect the "losers" by not identifying them. Then we can have some more PIs investigate what other achievements they faked!

    I'm not protecting anyone... I just felt the point was bigger than the individual. If I lead with a name, the response would be different because people have an existing perception about users.

    #36 3 months ago
    Quoted from boscokid:

    It looks like a lot of these recent additions to the Pinside map are from adding in location data from Pinballmap.com
    This may not be near as nefarious as some think

    In this case... i reached out to the user... inquiring the reason behind the rash of edits in a region they aren't even associated with. They didn't reply. I reached out to robin to make sure it wasn't some automation gone awry and maybe associating to that user in error. He replied and confirmed it was not some automation issue. The locations then were deleted (again not by robin). User books a bunch of achievements that day... and does not reply to PM.

    You make your own judgment...

    #39 3 months ago
    Quoted from JodyG:

    It looks like the achievements went away also.

    Because robin intervened after my inquiry

    #46 3 months ago
    Quoted from boscokid:

    Just doesn't seem like the work of a spammer/hacker/run of the mill Pinside A-hole

    If I had to guess... people realized they could do this and win their virtual trophies and they thought it was completely transparent/harmless. Then the idea spreads to a few other users. Everyone thinks its 'harmless fun' and don't believe there are any consequences. But that belief is based on incomplete information...

    They aren't spammer/hacker motivations... they are simply being selfish and either don't know, or don't care about the disruptions their 'innocent fun' causes. It's simple narcissism.

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