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Use an 11c mpu/mbu in an 11b machine (Earthshaker or Cyclone)

By jchybro

5 years ago



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#1 5 years ago

I have a rottendog 11c mpu/mbu and would like to use it in cyclone or earthshaker. I know for an 11b it needs to use an external audio board but i can't find any instructions stating how to set this up / modify it to work. Anyone know how to do this? Thanks!

#2 5 years ago

It looks like you need the daughter board (which based on your post you have this). There appears to be two connectors on the base (11C) board labeled J1 and J2 where the daughter board connects.

A quick look of merchants and I cannot find the daughter board separately.

It also looks like there might be two revisions of the board. One with the connectors and one without.

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#3 5 years ago

I believe i have the version of the board shown. I was hoping to use my existing audio board in the earthshaker (part D-11581). Is that not the same as the daughter board? I was figuring i just needed to connect to it as it's already mounted in the backbox.

#4 5 years ago

I'm fairly sure you need the daughter board.

U9, U21 and U22 (and other associated parts of the circuitry) on the main board are required and these are not present on the 11C or 11C Rottendog replacement. The daughter board contains the additional components that were not populated on the 11C main board.

For 11B there's still some audio circuitry on the main board. There is a separation between sound and speech (I can't remember which board does what) but the responsibilities are separated between the main board and the audio board that you have identified as a separate board in the back box.

11C boards can only be used in 11C unless you populate the missing components between 11B and 11C.

I believe 11A/B boards can only be used in 11A/B/C unless you populate the missing components between 11 (nothing) and 11A/B.

11 (nothing) boards can be used in 11 (nothing)/A/B/C although the diagnostic LEDs are a 7-segment display and it blinks in a weird way.

In essence Williams removed more and more components with later and later generations of system 11.

Rottendog 11A/B board with daughter board should look like this.

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