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Up the Irons - Stern Iron Maiden Owners and True Fans Club!


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#3601 10 months ago

I wanted to upgrade my speakers. I took a look at the cabinet speaker, saw it was 4 ohm so I ordered a Boss 8" 4ohm replacement speaker. I also ordered 4ohm backbox speakers; Kickers that were recommended to me by a fellow pinsider. When I went to install the backbox speakers I saw they are 8 ohm but I did notice before that in the settings you can adjust the speaker settings for 4 or 8 ohms. I set both to 4 ohm.

I hardly get any sound out of the cabinet speaker. When I was messing with the bass/treble settings for the cabinet speaker I switched it over to 8 ohm and it came to life! I want to say the factory setting for the cabinet speaker was 8ohm even though it's a 4ohm speaker, does that sound right? Can I switch the cabinet speaker setting to 8ohm even though I'm running a 4ohm speaker or will that mess up the amp or something else?

#3602 10 months ago
Quoted from PW79:

Seems like Pro is the way to go unless I want to tinker more than play?

tweaked the newton ball assemblies once for about 10 minutes. not the slightest problem ever since, every hit registers from all directions, sarcophagus works perfectly, underworld kickout the same.

only thing i have not gotten to work perfectly is the autoplunger but that's the same on all models.

#3603 10 months ago
Quoted from PW79:

Big thread
Do you Premium owners wish you bought a Pro instead?
I keep reading in other threads the Premium/LE mechs are guaranteed problematic.
Seems like Pro is the way to go unless I want to tinker more than play?

If you can work on these games fairly good then i would get the premium. If you cant, then i would get the pro. Both models are very similar in terms of gameplay but i LOVE that left ramp shot to lock the balls in the sarcophagus lock. Shooting under the center ramp to start modes is sweet also. Probably all you would have to do is mess with the newton balls. They are complete garbage but once you get them dialed in the seem to work pretty good. You may have to tinker with the auto plunge but thats both games there. This game isnt plug and play usually, it requires some tinkering but man it is a awesome game.

If you are capable and dont mind some tinkering then get the premium. If you dont enjoy tinkering with games then definitely get the pro. Its really that simple. I would never recommend this premium to a noob or someone who doesn’t have good mechanical abilities.

#3604 10 months ago
Quoted from PW79:

Do you Premium owners wish you bought a Pro instead?

No. I like the egyptian theme of the premium as well as the sarcophagus lock and lifting ramp for mode starts.

Quoted from PW79:

I keep reading in other threads the Premium/LE mechs are guaranteed problematic.

The newton balls and corresponding switches need to be adjusted properly. Once they are, the mechanisms work well. But, working on these may not be for everyone.

Rob

#3605 10 months ago
Quoted from PW79:

Big thread
Do you Premium owners wish you bought a Pro instead?
I keep reading in other threads the Premium/LE mechs are guaranteed problematic.
Seems like Pro is the way to go unless I want to tinker more than play?

HELL no. The additional Newton ball is cool (have not had a problem after adjusting mine 1 time) and the sarcophagus lock and jump ramp are key to the game. I have lifted the PF on mine 2 times, once was to install Vic’s mode color mod.

People are also forgetting there is another whole mode “can I play with madness “ which is not in the pro.

#3606 10 months ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

HELL no. The additional Newton ball is cool (have not had a problem after adjusting mine 1 time) and the sarcophagus lock and jump ramp are key to the game. I have lifted the PF on mine 2 times, once was to install Vic’s mode color mod.
People are also forgetting there is another whole mode “can I play with madness “ which is not in the pro.

The Premium is definitely more fun. I didnt think the Premium was worth it at first but after putting more time on both machines i really do love how the premium plays compared to the pro. The pro is still very awesome though so im definitely not knocking it by any means. Shooting that left ramp though to lock the ball into the sarcophagus is awesome!

#3607 10 months ago

I would say if you're buying new and don't mind ponying up the extra 1800, get the premium. Too me its worth it for the reasons already mentioned. I couldn't imaging not having the left ramp tomb shot, which is my favorite shot in the game. Plus I can rack up shots to the sarcophagus via the left mini flipper by hitting the captive ball. Since I typically have to start mummy multiball about 2-3 times to earn that card, its important for me. I haven't had any issues to speak of. I made one adjustment to my orb captive ball switch when I first got my game seven months ago. Both have worked perfect since. I've had problems with the auto plunge hitting the bottom post about 50% of the time, but I just have learned to live with it as any adjustments I make to improve it never really stick long term.

Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

can I play with madness

I love that mode. It know that the lifting ramp is required for it, but its too bad they couldn't adjust the rules a bit to fit that on the pro. It makes collecting the tomb treasures much more meaningful for guys like me that will "never see run to the hills".

#3608 10 months ago

I think a lot of people really summed it up the pro is a great game but the extra featuring the premium are well worth it in my opinion. I’ve only had to adjust my newton ball once and the auto plunge twice. I have spent way more time adding mods because I’m obsessed.
You won’t regret premium if the extra dough isn’t a problem.

#3609 10 months ago
Quoted from PW79:

Big thread
Do you Premium owners wish you bought a Pro instead?
I keep reading in other threads the Premium/LE mechs are guaranteed problematic.
Seems like Pro is the way to go unless I want to tinker more than play?

I've had 0 issues with my le and I like the extra stuff MUCH more than the pro

Just my $0.016

*I'm Canadian, my 2 pennies are worth less than USD pennies

#3610 10 months ago

Premium is probably the better playing game but the extra $$$ required I couldn't justify for in my head. I am super happy with the pro.

#3611 10 months ago

I don’t care about the price difference.

For me it’s more about leisure time & entertainment.

If extra money buys me extra entertainment I will buy it but if it comes at the cost of reduced leisure time I’m not so sure. Life is short & I have no desire for a new item in the house to cuss at.

I really like the Egyptian theme of the Premium. Dislike the music of Maiden like a mofo but I also dislike TWD as a show but LOVE the game so I can look past some things.

Not sure if it’s just because I’m considering the game & falsely “noticing it” more because of it but man sure seems like a lot of Maidens go up for sale compared to other recent offerings. Can’t tell if it’s Premium/LE more so than Pro or not.

I’m gonna PM some previous owners maybe & see what he deal was.

#3612 10 months ago

I went back and forth between the pro and premium for a while; even started a thread on pro vs premium. Ultimately I ended up with the premium and am glad I did. I liked the "extras" on the premium but thought I could like a pro. I played my buddy's pro and while it has a lot going for a pro I didn't like how the center ramp didn't move like it does on the premium to give a little change-up to that shot since it's used a lot in the game. I also liked the prem art better.

I've put at least 200 games on my prem and haven't had any problems so far, not saying I won't because I know people have, but so far so good. Well I guess I do have the problem where the ball launch hits the upper left flipper, but both pro and premium are subject to this.

When did you start looking for a used game for sale? I started looking probably 3 months ago and there weren't many at all, pro or prem, for sale at the time. If you just started looking and see a lot for sale it's probably due to The Munsters and IMDN has been out for a little while now and some NIB folks have had their fun with their game and looking at getting something else.

#3613 10 months ago
Quoted from PW79:

I don’t care about the price difference.
For me it’s more about leisure time & entertainment.
If extra money buys me extra entertainment I will buy it but if it comes at the cost of reduced leisure time I’m not so sure. Life is short & I have no desire for a new item in the house to cuss at.
I really like the Egyptian theme of the Premium. Dislike the music of Maiden like a mofo but I also dislike TWD as a show but LOVE the game so I can look past some things.
Not sure if it’s just because I’m considering the game & falsely “noticing it” more because of it but man sure seems like a lot of Maidens go up for sale compared to other recent offerings. Can’t tell if it’s Premium/LE more so than Pro or not.
I’m gonna PM some previous owners maybe & see what he deal was.

Theres really no way to say if you will have trouble with the newton balls or not but id lay a thousand on it right now that you will at some point and it will be sooner rather than later.

With that being said though you can put some loctite on then and maybe adjust them a little and you probably wont have to worry about it after that much. If you arent good at working on things and you have a short fuse then i suggest that you stay the hell away from the Premium lol. Maybe get a pro ir buy a Munsters?

#3614 10 months ago
Quoted from PW79:

because of it but man sure seems like a lot of Maidens go up for sale compared to other recent offerings.

When I look in the market right now, I see one wanted add for IMDN premium and one NIB LE for sale that is "sale pending". I didn't look at pros. I think it will fluctuate, but the real tell is when you see a bunch up for sale that don't move.

#3615 10 months ago

Keep in mind that it’s like any product: those who have issues are going to be much more active and loud about it. My imdnle has given me very little trouble, so little that I was/am shocked. Many others have reported the same good fortune. If you get a bad one, you’ll be tinkering. You should be able to sniff out a good one on the used market.

#3616 10 months ago

Cant help you on reliability oppinion, but if money is not an issue get the prem. The extra bits are not game changers but they are cool.

Up here the pro/prem price difference is about $2500 - so the differences werent enough to justifiy it, and I like the pro art the best.

The pro plays very smooth with no issues and is a hell of alot of fun.

#3617 10 months ago

Well, I have a pro, had it sold to buy a premium. After playing prem again I decided to keep pro. Not saying this cuz I have pro, I could have either and pro is faster with no issues so far

#3618 10 months ago
Quoted from Tranquilize:

Keep in mind that it’s like any product: those who have issues are going to be much more active and loud about it. My imdnle has given me very little trouble, so little that I was/am shocked. Many others have reported the same good fortune. If you get a bad one, you’ll be tinkering. You should be able to sniff out a good one on the used market.

This.

#3619 10 months ago

This may be a dumb question but I just updated my premium. Now I believe it’s playing like a pro. It’s starting modes by hitting the pharaoh target, and the ramp hasn’t gone up since the update. The physical tomorrow lock isn’t working either.Is there a setting I missing?

#3620 10 months ago
Quoted from bigduke6:

This may be a dumb question but I just updated my premium. Now I believe it’s playing like a pro. It’s starting modes by hitting the pharaoh target, and the ramp hasn’t gone up since the update. The physical tomorrow lock isn’t working either.Is there a setting I missing?

Make sure you downloaded the premium/LE software and not the Pro version. Its should say LE in the filename.

#3621 10 months ago
Quoted from bigdaddy07:

Make sure you downloaded the premium/LE software and not the Pro version. Its should say LE in the filename.

Thanks, That would be it!

#3622 10 months ago

Everyone I know says the Premium is much better. I've had zero issues with mine other than the auto launch problem only hitting the loop 60% of the time. (hits the upper flipper) That's a problem with the Pro also though. I've spent so much time on that damned auto launcher I've given it up.

Also, Pinstadiums doubled everyone's enjoyment of the pin in my home.

#3623 10 months ago

Some of the early Premium owners got screwed. Stern made some changes after the initial production run to cut down on some of the issues. Also, there is now a wealth of information regarding just about any issue this game will have. I've noticed a lot of pro people talking about how bad premiums are, lots of regurgitation of the same inaccurate information.

Problems early, they got better, the majority of people have little to no issue with the game. And, if you get unlucky and your game is problematic (which can happen with any title and any manufacturer), there is a lot of information out there to help you out.

Quoted from PW79:

I keep reading in other threads the Premium/LE mechs are guaranteed problematic.

#3624 10 months ago
Quoted from jalpert:

Some of the early Premium owners got screwed. Stern made some changes after the initial production run to cut down on some of the issues.

My premium is somewhat of an early build; I think it was made the end of June, but would need to check that to be sure. What changes did Stern make? I would like to check mine to see if it has the revised stuff.

#3625 10 months ago

Finally got the yellow acrylic back in stock, sorry for all the delays on the latest round of orders!

https://truecolorprotectors.com/products/iron-maiden-truecolor-plastic-protectors

Also, cool little note. All orders have been going out with a 3rd FREE slingshot spare in case one of yours ever breaks!

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#3626 10 months ago

what changes the currently highlighted mode? Typically starts at the bottom, Icarus, and works up but sometime I change the mode selected and not sure how that happened.

#3627 10 months ago
Quoted from barakandl:

what changes the currently highlighted mode? Typically starts at the bottom, Icarus, and works up but sometime I change the mode selected and not sure how that happened.

Bottom left revive spinner.

#3628 10 months ago

Check to see if you have the very slim leg plates or the full size Stern leg plates.

Quoted from pindude80:

My premium is somewhat of an early build; I think it was made the end of June, but would need to check that to be sure. What changes did Stern make? I would like to check mine to see if it has the revised stuff.

#3629 10 months ago
Quoted from jalpert:

Check to see if you have the very slim leg plates or the full size Stern leg plates.

Unfortunately mine has the narrow leg plates which was very disappointing becasuse all thought all games starting with SW got the new and improved leg plates. Was anything else changed and upgraded?

#3630 10 months ago
Quoted from jrivelli:

Finally got the yellow acrylic back in stock, sorry for all the delays on the latest round of orders!

Do you have any plans to do pop bumper protectors as well? I ordered the ones from Mezel mods but the color doesn't match yours (and I like yours better).

#3631 10 months ago

Finally got around to tightening my Mummy captive ball. Took me all of 2 minutes but I LOST THE LEFT NUT AND CANT FIND IT DOH.
Played 3 games and still not seeing it. Think it's in the sarcophagus somewhere oof. But IT WORKS!

#3632 10 months ago
Quoted from jrivelli:

Finally got the yellow acrylic back in stock, sorry for all the delays on the latest round of orders!
https://truecolorprotectors.com/products/iron-maiden-truecolor-plastic-protectors
Also, cool little note. All orders have been going out with a 3rd FREE slingshot spare in case one of yours ever breaks![quoted image]

This is the best looking set avail.

#3633 10 months ago
Quoted from mikeking:

Do you have any plans to do pop bumper protectors as well? I ordered the ones from Mezel mods but the color doesn't match yours (and I like yours better).

Same...I’d be interested too

#3634 10 months ago
Quoted from jrivelli:

Finally got the yellow acrylic back in stock, sorry for all the delays on the latest round of orders!
https://truecolorprotectors.com/products/iron-maiden-truecolor-plastic-protectors
Also, cool little note. All orders have been going out with a 3rd FREE slingshot spare in case one of yours ever breaks![quoted image]

I have these any they’re a ‘must-buy.’ Any owner should pick them up.

#3635 10 months ago
Quoted from pindude80:

Unfortunately mine has the narrow leg plates which was very disappointing becasuse all thought all games starting with SW got the new and improved leg plates. Was anything else changed and upgraded?

My premium has the small plates too. They must be just using up inventory of the small plates which are probably still ok for Iron Maiden. They couldn't be used for SW and BM66 (newer) because of the heavier playfields.

Rob

#3636 10 months ago
Quoted from mikeking:

Do you have any plans to do pop bumper protectors as well? I ordered the ones from Mezel mods but the color doesn't match yours (and I like yours better).

Oh yes I do. Totally forgot about this. I made the scans like 2 weeks ago and totally spaced. I'll get these out asap. Going to a buddies to scan about 50 games tomorrow so maybe Wednesday I'll make these up!

#3637 10 months ago
Quoted from barakandl:

what changes the currently highlighted mode? Typically starts at the bottom, Icarus, and works up but sometime I change the mode selected and not sure how that happened.

With the default settings it should be random selection at the start of each game and randomly change after each mode is activated. As mentioned, the lower left revive spinner will change the current mode unless EDDIE is spelled and the mode is ready to start.

#3638 10 months ago
Quoted from malklavious:

With the default settings it should be random selection at the start of each game and randomly change after each mode is activated. As mentioned, the lower left revive spinner will change the current mode unless EDDIE is spelled and the mode is ready to start.

Hrmm mine seems to always start at icarus and I don't think I changed any setting for it. I will look around. Maybe competition mode??? The lower left revive def spins the selection around

I had my best game so far last night. 681M pretty much default settings but competition mode on and EB off.

Seems foolish to start a multiball with out one of the single ball modes going. If you don't you can get buried behind in score pretty fast that is hard to come back from with bad multiballs. Trooper M-Ball round 2 wish was easier to start.

#3639 10 months ago

The games were changed so that the posts that contact the spoon under the newton balls were rounded off.

Quoted from pindude80:

Was anything else changed and upgraded?

#3640 10 months ago
Quoted from jalpert:

The games were changed so that the posts that contact the spoon under the newton balls were rounded off.

I did see that the end of my shafts that ride in the spoons are rounded.

#3641 10 months ago

Actually, the new style shafts/actuating arms are tapered to leave a smaller contact area with the spoon. The old ones were just rounded off at the bottom. There are photos in this thread somewhere.

#3642 10 months ago

I really liked the tilt animation before 1.06 with the devil saying "no..no..no..no..no". Too bad we don't have the option to choose the one we prefer.

#3643 10 months ago
Quoted from jalpert:

The games were changed so that the posts that contact the spoon under the newton balls were rounded off.

Does it work?

#3644 10 months ago

Yeah, it helps quite a bit.

#3645 10 months ago
Quoted from bigdaddy07:

I really liked the tilt animation before 1.06 with the devil saying "no..no..no..no..no". Too bad we don't have the option to choose the one we prefer.

As someone that plays this at a location where it's tough to hear the audio, what happens on the new code during Tilt? I just heard the "no...no...no...etc." on a stream for the first time the other night and thought it was hilarious.

#3646 10 months ago
Quoted from wontwa:

As someone that plays this at a location where it's tough to hear the audio, what happens on the new code during Tilt? I just heard the "no...no...no...etc." on a stream for the first time the other night and thought it was hilarious.

It shows the nuclear launch console on warnings and mushroom cloud on tilt, just like in the two minutes to midnight mode. I'm not sure why they felt it necessary to change it, other than to deal with loud on location settings, where you couldn't hear what the devil is saying anyway.

#3647 10 months ago
Quoted from bigdaddy07:

It shows the nuclear launch console on warnings and mushroom cloud on tilt, just like in the two minutes to midnight mode. I'm not sure why they felt it necessary to change it, other than to deal with loud on location settings, where you couldn't hear what the devil is saying anyway.

I suspect the tilt warning screen is easier to notice now in a loud environment with its bright white background.

#3648 10 months ago
Quoted from bigdaddy07:

It shows the nuclear launch console on warnings and mushroom cloud on tilt, just like in the two minutes to midnight mode. I'm not sure why they felt it necessary to change it, other than to deal with loud on location settings, where you couldn't hear what the devil is saying anyway.

I don't think they wanted to animate the devil's mouth.

#3649 10 months ago
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#3650 10 months ago

It does. At least it did for me, I have a late build and haven’t had an issue.

Quoted from PW79:

Does it work?

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