Quoted from gumnut01:

I only acquired my LE about a month ago. I am not an LE guy, but one came up with Gus and other enhancements for a fair but large price and I bit the bullet. I enjoy the underworld lifting up and the sarcophagus enhancements with the mummy target far too much to do without. I don’t have any problems with the orb or captive ball. No regrets, I’m sure the pro is great. I own a twd pro, had a STh pro and turtles pro. Would not want these in premium or Le form. But I do want these extras in maiden. You’re not going to get one consistent answer but don’t think you can lose with either version.
Edit. Don’t know why you would be downvoted just giving your opinion. Is this the bond 60th thread, sheesh!!

Quoted from CaptainNeo:

I was a pro owner for the past 3 years. Changed to a premium just recently. Do I think the premium is worth it? No it's not. I was perfectly happy with the pro.
I didn't have captive ball problems with the pro.
Didn't have orb ball problems.
Playfield art is better on the pro. Not a fan on how they outlined the words on the premium. I like the playfield art without the black outlining.
Fear of the dark mode is 1000X's better on the Pro. On the pro, the game gets dimmer and dimmer, as you don't hit your shots. Well integrated into the mode. (PRO ONLY).
On the premium. Someone did the GI's like a toddler, and made them half red and half white. So the art package looks like cold dog shit. And in fear of the dark and mummy multiball, it shuts off the white side of the GI's so it's red only. Looks like shit all around. HUGE miss step for stern to do this on the premium and a huge downgrade from the pro. I got rid of my red LED's and put in dimmer sunlight white, than the paired GI socket. So art looks great like it should and does on the pro. But when fear of the dark, and mummy shut off the bright side. I goes super dim for those modes. But loses the gradual dimming effect that the pro has.
So overall. Stick with the pro, because the Premium is not worth the extra bucks at all.

Quoted from Anony:

Huh I've never heard that complaint about fear of the dark mode on premium, that's a shame. I have a pro and always thought FotD mode was the coolest because of what they do with the lighting. It makes hitting that spinner feel so good when everything lights up.

Quoted from Pin_Fandango:

it is my favourite mode in the game, love it when I tip the upper spinner and then shoot the lower spinner on the fly = HUGE POINTS, especially if you had stacked up the 2x by shooting the right ramp.
This mode and Icarus are my favourites, the rest are ok but not as fun.

Quoted from Kkoss24:

I tore the machine down in November for a spa day that turned into 3 months I got all my work done but going to play it and the bottom 2 flippers are not working but the top 2 are .They work in test though .Also software was acting up .When I seen the flippers weren’t working I tossed the ball around and a game that ended ,did so on the screen (started rolling through high scores etc) but the playfield looked as if it was still in play .A ball was in the lock that never came out .Anyway shit gone haywire .So I’m trying to see if a update will help out but 1.12 will not download (i need IC soon on the never ending list ) .Any thoughts ?
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Quoted from Enchantress:

Looking killer!!

Quoted from Cento:

Cool apron decals.
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Quoted from Pin_Fandango:

Nice detail but nobody will ever see those.
Super coool though

Quoted from dmacy:

This is the first pin that that has made it back to my game room. Love the premium over the pro. Pro is great but played both enough to prefer premium. Added some of brzezicki mods to mine.
Awesome game. Boobs/noobs get to play it and feel like they get some game time. Well done Mr. Elwin.
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Quoted from dmacy:

Pro is a great. I just preferred the Premium on this one. Most of us will recommend what we have be they’re both great. Get what you and your budget both agree on.

Quoted from Jackontherocks:

Just wanted some of your thoughts if think Maiden still for me

Quoted from Jackontherocks:I am also posting this here as was recently thinking of getting a new Maiden pin premium version on this rerun as my one and only pin, yes only want one as had in the past and switch out years down the road but always felt for a one pin collection Maiden does not have enough in it. I love the music and theme and hate hate Foo music but have to admit the Foo game looks to be a home run game the way I wished for Maiden with a ton of features. I wished for and Eddie head to eat the balls and spit out or lock in his eyes and mouth through middle of game statue. Heck I even started the thread for Maiden pin to get made 9 years ago (and some pinside member owes me a shirt since game actually got made). Just wanted some of your thoughts if think Maiden still for me. I enjoy flow and shots and ramps. Here is post from other thread. I watched the videos on Foo and want to know why there are so many more features with still a ton of great shots and why Maiden is so plain with only great shots. Still wish Maiden had more in it like I said in the past, sure its pure fun to play but Maiden is missing items and only great shots. Makes me not want a Maiden if can only have or choose a one pin collection (yes in big collection) as was seriously thinking as my one new pin recently. Great job Stern packing the Foo game with stuff now continue to do it on all games. Wish I was at least some kind of foo music fan and will wait for the next heavy metal rock n roll one. Still will enjoy playing the Foo on location location and looks very fun, fast and with flow to play.

Quoted from JohnTTwo:

It is a 4 wire ribbon connection that maybe disconnected from what ever it was, but the original wires may not be reconnected.

The 4 wires on the ribbon cable are black, green, red, blue.

Quoted from brzezicki:

you really need to play the games your interested in. You'll often find they are not what you thought or you like something else better.
(that happened to me when I went to play a Rush before I bought it, and found Godzilla next to it, then discovered AIQ, and JP too, of course I still got the Rush eventually and it's great too
However If you want a game that has great shots and flow and fun... and has tons of weird "things" check out Godzilla Premium.
or if you want a game with music and lots of stuff on the playfield, get an Iron Maiden and add a bunch of mods.
to me though the game play of IM speaks for itself, it's just insanely fun as are all the Elwin games. Adding stuff/toys to a game doesn't make it better it just makes it more full of stuff. reminds me back of the days CDROMs came out for computers all the games were all flash digitized graphics but the "fun" of the games disappeared as they abandoned game design to just throw sounds and digitized video at you (not saying foo fighters, is just flash, it actually looks super cool, but features don't make a game the play of the game will be what makes it great.
As someone wisely said to me "the first time something grabs the ball and eats it is an awesome moment... but it's just a single moment, eventually you'll be like "ok cool I've seen that 1M times already... just give me the ball back so I can play".
the stuff on the game is just icing. But the foundation of the games is shots and flow and the fun of the game itself.
Just my opinions.
-brian

Quoted from Jackontherocks:

I am also posting this here as was recently thinking of getting a new Maiden pin premium version on this rerun as my one and only pin, yes only want one as had in the past and switch out years down the road but always felt for a one pin collection Maiden does not have enough in it. I love the music and theme and hate hate Foo music but have to admit the Foo game looks to be a home run game the way I wished for Maiden with a ton of features. I wished for and Eddie head to eat the balls and spit out or lock in his eyes and mouth through middle of game statue. Heck I even started the thread for Maiden pin to get made 9 years ago (and some pinside member owes me a shirt since game actually got made). Just wanted some of your thoughts if think Maiden still for me. I enjoy flow and shots and ramps. Here is post from other thread. I watched the videos on Foo and want to know why there are so many more features with still a ton of great shots and why Maiden is so plain with only great shots. Still wish Maiden had more in it like I said in the past, sure its pure fun to play but Maiden is missing items and only great shots. Makes me not want a Maiden if can only have or choose a one pin collection (yes in big collection) as was seriously thinking as my one new pin recently. Great job Stern packing the Foo game with stuff now continue to do it on all games. Wish I was at least some kind of foo music fan and will wait for the next heavy metal rock n roll one. Still will enjoy playing the Foo on location location and looks very fun, fast and with flow to play.

Quoted from Jackontherocks:

Thanks very much for detailed reply, enjoyed it and was hoping for a response like this. It’s hard to pick just one game so I beat myself always wanting more in any game made.

Quoted from Tranquilize:

One game? GZ ... all day. It has elements of Maiden in it and much more.

Quoted from gandamack:

To all the IMDN owners: in your opinion why is IMDN such a great game? I ask because I have a Premium coming in May. I recently have been paying attention to all the attention Foo Fighters has been receiving and I think the positivity is well warranted. I actually contacted my distributor and asked if deposits were transferable; he replied no problem. I slept on it and the next day said, "I will stay with Maiden. I have my reasons for keeping my IMDN slot, but I want to really know what makes you think IMDN is a brilliant machine. Cheers.

Quoted from gumnut01:

This is what I posted to you in the Foo thread:
“You do have Godzilla. I feel the foo layout is more similar to Godzilla than maiden. Maiden is different, it has an old school feel to it. The art is exceptional. Go with your gut. I personally would stick with maiden, enjoy it for now and get the foo in a couple of years. That’s what I intend to do.”
You’re looking at Elwin’s first pin vs Danger’s first pin. Can’t go wrong with either. The music in maiden is actually not as bad as I thought it would be. Find myself humming along to it. Both look like great pins. I like the occult feel of Imdn. It’s like a modern Gorgar pinball. Someone mentioned to me it’s like you’re getting a street level game like Sea Witch with 2 really cool ramps. I think of Keith’s games this and JP have his most satisfying ramps. The start of trooper multiball is a joy to see. Just really great game.

Quoted from gandamack:

Ya, I remember reading your "go with your gut" statement and believe it or not that was the tipping point for me to stick with Maiden. Appreciate you taking the time to post. Eventually, I will get FF. But for now, Maiden will be a good contrast with 'Zilla.

Quoted from gandamack:

To all the IMDN owners: in your opinion why is IMDN such a great game? I ask because I have a Premium coming in May. I recently have been paying attention to all the attention Foo Fighters has been receiving and I think the positivity is well warranted. I actually contacted my distributor and asked if deposits were transferable; he replied no problem. I slept on it and the next day said, "I will stay with Maiden. I have my reasons for keeping my IMDN slot, but I want to really know what makes you think IMDN is a brilliant machine. Cheers.

Quoted from gandamack:

To all the IMDN owners: in your opinion why is IMDN such a great game? I ask because I have a Premium coming in May. I recently have been paying attention to all the attention Foo Fighters has been receiving and I think the positivity is well warranted. I actually contacted my distributor and asked if deposits were transferable; he replied no problem. I slept on it and the next day said, "I will stay with Maiden. I have my reasons for keeping my IMDN slot, but I want to really know what makes you think IMDN is a brilliant machine. Cheers.

Quoted from gandamack:

Ya, I remember reading your "go with your gut" statement and believe it or not that was the tipping point for me to stick with Maiden. Appreciate you taking the time to post. Eventually, I will get FF. But for now, Maiden will be a good contrast with 'Zilla.

Quoted from Tranquilize:

One game? GZ ... all day. It has elements of Maiden in it and much more.

Quoted from gumnut01:

But so different from one another. I think they complement each other well.
Edit: and one pin is hard. Even though I like steak over chicken, couldn’t stomach steak every night.

Quoted from Jackontherocks:

Yes I am good with one, it works for me. Not big on the maintenance or trying to fix them myself as electrical shit not for me, etc. I had my TFTC for many years and was happy and wanted to update to a newer Stern game (since the LCD screen introduced, not because of the screen but a model that at least has one as figured might as well take advantage if buying a new in box) and had to have with flow and ramps like my last game. Loved Metallica pin layout and toys but I enjoy Maiden music ten times more (always rock and metal, no trendy alternative for me) and agree Godzilla is fun to play but I have more personal taste tied to Maiden. With the new run it’s a great opportunity and hard to find that home run everything pin. I am in no rush and play on location but always wanted a new game when right one with the right stuff came about. I will keep it for a few years anyway if pick Maiden. Is Maiden a plus from a maintenance perspective for having less toys or moveable pieces to less possible breakdowns as compared to any other game with more moving functions. Also, thanks for everyone’s posts and helps and enjoyed reading them and reason I posted in this thread.

Quoted from djreddog:

If you want as little maintenance as possible you better buy the Pro and not the Premium or else you will be adjusting spoons for the rest of your life.

Quoted from Sleal16:

Alrighty! February was rough with everyone here at home getting sick, but finished my alternative paint offering prototype for the Anubis statue (along with the last Clairvoyant updates). I'll be completing my dedicated IMDN project thread this evening along with details on purchasing this one and the Clairvoyant.
Note: If anyone that bought my previous color scheme for the Anubis wants this updated version, shoot me a DM.
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Quoted from Sleal16:

Alrighty! February was rough with everyone here at home getting sick, but finished my alternative paint offering prototype for the Anubis statue (along with the last Clairvoyant updates). I'll be completing my dedicated IMDN project thread this evening along with details on purchasing this one and the Clairvoyant.
Note: If anyone that bought my previous color scheme for the Anubis wants this updated version, shoot me a DM.
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Quoted from Sleal16:

Alrighty! February was rough with everyone here at home getting sick, but finished my alternative paint offering prototype for the Anubis statue (along with the last Clairvoyant updates). I'll be completing my dedicated IMDN project thread this evening along with details on purchasing this one and the Clairvoyant.
Note: If anyone that bought my previous color scheme for the Anubis wants this updated version, shoot me a DM.
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Quoted from Pin_Fandango:

looks awesome, where is the link to this?
thanks

Quoted from djreddog:

If you want as little maintenance as possible you better buy the Pro and not the Premium or else you will be adjusting spoons for the rest of your life.

Quoted from Sleal16:

Alrighty! February was rough with everyone here at home getting sick, but finished my alternative paint offering prototype for the Anubis statue (along with the last Clairvoyant updates). I'll be completing my dedicated IMDN project thread this evening along with details on purchasing this one and the Clairvoyant.
Note: If anyone that bought my previous color scheme for the Anubis wants this updated version, shoot me a DM.
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Quoted from Anony:

This thing was a bit of a pain to install on the pro but boy does it look cool. It's a little dark on the pro though since you lose all of the backboard GI. I need to figure out where I can mount an LED strip to light up that back area of the playfield.
Can anyone tell me if the polarity matters for the GI sockets for these games, or can I solder in another socket in any orientation?
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Quoted from CaptainNeo:

that's the same issue i'm having. not a fan of how the light kind of reflects off of it with a satin shimmer. Would be better with a full flat. but does need more lighting. I'm sampling with some items and techniques to hopefully make it nicer.