I ditched the 2 color idea after a image came to mind of the pinsider that was trying to sell a SWprem with 4 different colored coated legs .He was very proud of this scientific marvel as you would expect .Didn’t go over too well haha .I’m going with a little darker blue than the armor for the playfield stuff .It’ll be a few weeks but I’ll for sure post when done .I’ll let the professional pick it out as Pinball Refinery does some jaw dropping work

I thought I’d post some pictures as this project progresses (along with some storyline) .I had a real bad day prior to when we left for our pin trip (trading RushLE for GZprem + then drop off all IMDN parts to Pinball Refinery for coating) .To my amazement ,neither Uhaul nor Auto Zone carried a adapter (for my wife’s Atlas to tow ,and this all took up 2hrs to find out I can’t rent the trailer ).We we’re leaving by 5AM and it’s now 7:30PM (the night prior) and I have to unwrap the Rush ,remove the head and re wrap so it will fit in the small hatch SUV .The clock ticked away and I had to stop short of all I was removing from the IMDN playfield to get coated .I was going to leave it at that but I really wanted to give this particular pin the “Full Monty” ,so I am now finishing up (tonight) removing the rest to send out .Man ,I completely underestimated the time it would take for a top side tear down although I am really glad To be doing it .This is a great learning experience everyone should do at some point imo .I have been taking my time ,documenting with videos and pictures ,bagging each area parts with its hardware ,labeling them , and been keeping my tools somewhat organized for once .The only mistake I’ve made so far is should’ve loosened everything under the playfield that would be coming out while I could prop it up with the head on .We’ll that’s it for now , here are some pictures from the start until now .This pin is going to have some real Star Power !First and foremost it’s created at Stern by Team Elwin , Gouveias “Gus” mod ,Pinball Refinery’s custom 2 color powder coating ,Liors Backboard and Oracle set ,all this with more to follow

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Very cool. When did you receive the lior backboard and oracle? I don't' think I've seen anyone who actually got them yet, they look awesome!

I’m not really sure and don’t mind waiting ,I’m taking my time with this project for sure .I know there is a 0% chance I’ll get through it clean so I’m thinking the “ slower the better “approach is ideal here.

I don’t have it yet ,just mentioning it .Does anyone have pictures of IMDN with black mirror blades ?

Yeah I realized after posting that those were the shots used by lior, not your game. woops!

This game is well worth it to me. This is the pin we’ve had the longest and don’t see it going anywhere if ever. I need to put some personal touches on this thing though .First get the rest of it taken apart so he can start soon .

Don't play as much as I used to these days. Mans still got it

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Is it leaning the other way?

Excellent score!

I have black mirror blades. Can try to take some photos, seem to look pretty well the same as regular ones.

EPIC day with two pinball families getting together which culminated in moat-pin beating the Beast (after second attempt!), all 4 level 2 Eddie cards, and 9 pharoah tomb awards followed by a level 3 mystery which started RUN TO THE HILLS! All of the kids were watching, calling out shots, cheering…it was a memorable pinball moment for our pinball families!
Yes it was 3-balls with a tilt bob…he is just that good. He beat my HUO GC by 4x

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Glass on.......?

Wow that's impressive. About 5.9 billion more than my best

Hi, does anyone in the group have the Monsters of Rock-modded code for the Pro?

I already posted in that group but there has been no response for some time by many posters.

PM'd.

If anyone else wants the 1.10 code for pro with the standard songs but updated videos let me know. I kept my copy when the original user who was sharing it sent it to me.

Sounds interesting, I've never heard of this. What is it exactly?

Is there a link that shoes the video changes please?

Does anyone have an SD card file for the premium that they are willing to share that will open with Pinball Browser? Thanks for the help!

Thank you , I grabbed a couple sets of regular mirrored for this and GZ .

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/iron-maiden-amp-the-monsters-of-rock-modded-code

Check that post out it should explain everything with some preview videos.

Great video.

Working on an LE translite for my Premium. Not a big fan of the Egyptian translite. Will post photos once installed.

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premium art is bad, the pro inst great either. Not a fan of the art in this game in general but have not seen a LE in person...

Meaning you are printing one or scored an original, somehow?

I like the art on every version, but think the premium is the least nice (but still really cool looking) since it only focuses on the Egyptian part. Pro brings in all the Eddies, nicely, in my opinion.

Having owned all 3 versions of this game I like the premium art the best just my opinion

Printing the translite. Did the Rush LE and turned out perfect.

in almost all sterns i prefer always the premium art best. Except in JP and Rush, that i prefer the LE version better.

I would love to make my own translates. what material do you use?

I agree. The artwork is excellent all around on this pin. A+

I’ve always wondered why manufacturers have never put out a backglass option for pro/prems in the in accessories package ? Someone had said to me that they want to be exclusive to the LEs but they allow other areas of the pin to upgraded to look more like a LE .I’d imagine this would be a huge seller as I had my first LE recently and really would want backglasses on all my pins .It would move into the “must have “ group of mods imo.

Don't think they would be hard to make. There is a manufacturer of them out there somewhere for Stern. Just have to find a supplier, although there are economies of scale so likely very costly to make small orders. Stern is ordering a thousand at a time. I may look at making the side armor for certain games like Rush for the Pro/Premium models (the guitar shaped armor). Working with a local metal shop. May extend the concept to other rock based games if there is demand.

It's got to be the exclusivity thing. If anyone can buy a premium and easily make it look exactly like an LE then the LE isn't really limited anymore.

There is nothing Le about the Le, other the unique cab decals. Everything else can be added after.
The le has always been a scam to me to justify the price scheme.
They give you a strip down un-upgradeable pro or an overpriced premium now.

The pro should be upgradeable, buy the bits to get it there to premium level.Just a node board and extra ramp and other bits.
But no.
They corner you so you go to premium. This is ending now, most people will not buy NIB anymore.
I am out of nib for the forseable future, cant justify these prices. Will enjoy older pins going forward.

But Stern biz model is about making quick money, out of the door and done. They are not in the business of selling parts so unless the current model breaks I see no change here but I think it might happen.

It's a "business" like any other No company is in the game to make a loss!!

of course, but they do not provide support. The sell what they make, the cake is made you do not get to buy the ingredients. The could easily sell a pro that can be upgraded, BUT they do not.

There's a difference between wanting to make money and make "quick" money.

I have generally had a favorable experience with Stern but I'm still waiting for a replacement wireform from them and it's been almost a year now. There's no indication they are ever going to send it considering they did a production run of this machine months after my warranty claim was opened and didn't send me one.

Perhaps broaden your viewpoint just for a second and put this same blowtorch you are holding to virtually EVERY company out there, think you'll find that this is across the board, not just related to Stern. Just seems a tad odd to hold this against one company when most want quick profits whenever possible yeah??

I don't understand your comment, I don't think there is anything personally against a company, just pointing out that this is a pinball forum so the comment above is related to the discussion at hand to what a company is doing or not doing. It is not a witch hunt, it is simple common sense...

I foresee Stern also shrinking and firing a few dozen employees in the near future, particularly those in web development that really just cost money. I suspect the first ones on the chopping board are the 'insider connect crew'... This has already been happening on bigger companies where they chopped off 'new developments' and Stern is really small in comparison but I think they expanded too fast over the last 2 years.
There is no room to grow now but to maintain. The goal is to keep selling and keep profits high. Flash news, I doubt they are selling as much as 6 months ago, so something gotta give. Distros have JJP TS4, BOND PRO AND PREM unsold and some LE...
Something is changing.

The price increase is to cushion some of the upcoming depreciation of these machines that will no longer be sold for NIB prices in the used market. Stern took the scalpers role and we are now paying it if you want it NIB.

In other words, I expect that at any rate the 'faux' pinflation we are currently coming out of will be even more notable in the next 6 months as rates will continue to go up a at least likely another .5 in the new year. They are just giving us a break now before the holidays, to promote spending and to go easy on us. Come 2023, get ready for another higher lending rates. We will then see pre covid prices in the used market...

I do expect the secondary to soften to the numbers they need to be at, which is $1500 to $2000 under the current prices across the board.

You don't understand simple economics??
I never said it was a witch hunt against Stern, just saying there's no difference to any company out there trying to make a buck and tbh most individuals are after a fast dollar too.

Well, I dont think justifying price gauging using simple economics is fair.
The fact that only 2 manufacturers did this only recently, actually, defeats your argument.
We will see if CGC does it but I doubt it, they seem to have higher standards than Stern and JJP.

If it was simple economics all pinball companies would have had a price change now and that did not happen.

So in my opinion, I disagree with you and this isn’t simple economics at all actually… It is a company squeezing their client base to satisfy share holders…

I disagree. In every industry there are companies that stand out from the rest by the care they take to service the end user vs. just pumping out more product.
Take a company like Valve. They changed the video game industry by hosting sales on a regular basis and making the ability to refund any game any time under a certain playtime standard. Before valve you couldn't refund digital video games anywhere. They obviously want our money but they are willing to get there by putting the needs of the consumer at the forefront so people keep coming back.

Every business wants to make a profit, but that doesn't mean every business acts in the best interest of the client. That's pretty obvious.

And like I said, I've generally had a good experience with Stern. The fact that they warrantied anything on a 4 year old machine that I bought second hand is great, but you'll see countless complaints of people who have been waiting multiple months for parts and not received them. It's clear Stern has not made providing parts to the end user a priority. They want machines out the door NIB more than they want current owners to be serviced.

That’s a great idea .I’d imagine they’re would be plenty of demand if you can knock off some of the cost .The custom armor sell for $450 is basically glorified $80 lollys with a bit of laser cutting involved although I have no clue how this works with licensing .Is it a thing where if you do it for your own machine it’s fine but it’s not if your selling ? Even with that is someone really going to pay attorneys to go after someone for basically peanuts ?

went to a record store today and my Son insisted on buying me this Flight of Icarus toy for our Premium. he then added wire and hitched him to a screw on left ramp. D0276122-30FD-4F6C-8D56-9356D7AF40B4 (resized).jpegVery imposing!!!

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Looks creepy I love it .

Yeah i get it, both of you are pissed at Stern for raising prices on machines
There's one easy fix for that... DON'T BUY any more NIB and maybe, instead of bitching in the Maiden thread, go across to the next stern machine thread and join the whining there. Do i like the price rise NO but you don't see me whinging about it either, i'll just vote with my pocket instead of crapping on about it. As we all know, the market will ultimately end up deciding if the price hikes are sustainable. Also, as you both will know, prices on pretty much everything we consume/use in life continue to rise.

I voted with my wallet. I have not bought a NIB Stern since the release of Iron Maiden. I felt my money was better spent on other machines with more value and fun.

Back to actual Iron Maiden talk - can anyone help with scoring strategies for this game?
I can’t seem to crack 300 million, get in the 200’s semi regularly by trying to stack a mode with Multiball

You never know whqt people are going through… this is one of those posts it seems.

Carry on