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#37 8 years ago
Quoted from TomGWI:

I'll be at MGC. I'll be helping move games in and other stuff. Will either bring TFLE or TSPP.

NIce. I was thinking of TFLE, but I may bring my freshly restored Atlantis or Miss World again.

#205 8 years ago

165 new posts since the last time I was here? Where the hell are you guys when I was trying to start a local pinball league here? Since there seems to be a ton of us now. How many here want to do a SE WI pinball league? Get together once a month, do random gamerooms the whole 9 yards. Keep league stats, maybe have a passable Trophy for the point leader of the season. What do you think?

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#513 8 years ago

i've just come to the conclusion, that Wi/MN people are a bunch of socialites. We all have high Karma social ratings. I thought I was just the one that was long winded, but going down the list looks like everyone will give me a run for the money on the talking aspect. No wonder we never get anything accomplished during pinball events. To busy shooting the shit.

#515 8 years ago

both upper and lower? Sounds good. Bring it along. Something like that I can squeeze through the system fairly fast for you.

#517 8 years ago

well if your bringing it to waunakee tourney on sat., I probably can have it done by MGC.

#528 8 years ago

I don't know about Cliquey, but we sure the hell are chatty.

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#645 8 years ago
Quoted from ThePostmaster:

You'll have to witness my style of play at MGC. It's the hit every post in the game, and miss as many shots as possible. It keeps the competition guessing.

You know there arn't any point switches in the rubber posts or blue blocks right. Those arn't there for scoring purposes.

#650 8 years ago

If you want to see the new TF code in the LE, More than welcome to come over today.

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#738 8 years ago

I told 4 people about it this past week who didn't know about it and are now going and taking the family. Lots don't know it even exists.

#745 8 years ago

It was great talking with all you guys this weekend. In person that talk is just as abundant as on here. I think the only game I played that wasn't a tournament game was some WOZ and mystery Castle. Other than that, it was nonstop talking.

#753 8 years ago
Quoted from ChrisS:

I'm with you. More talk than play. I think Eric and I got more games in on his Tron Friday night and in the AM before the show opened than the rest of the time we were there. Seeing your beautiful example is one reason I would love to own one.
Neo. Your Atlantis was amazing. Thanks for bringing it and taking the time to walk through the rules and explaining more about the machine. Now I want one.
Did everyone meet Tony (tonymiddendorf). To refresh your memory and his; he was walking around with the 4litre jug of RED wine on Saturday. Also important to note at the end of the night his white Tshirt was still white and spotless. Now that's a "Pro".
Best year yet. Stay safe this year so we can see you all again next year.

Thanks for the compliment on Atlantis. We met Tony when he could barely stand and again the next day when we got to reintroduce ourselves for the first time again. He was actually in good shape which is shocking from the night before. Good times.

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#938 8 years ago
Quoted from jonogo:

FS: Goldeneye, WPT, and W?D in MN, I'll post a FS thread later on today. PM me w/ questions.
You heard it here first!

Goldeneye for sale. There's one you don't see often. Wish I could play one that was running good. Usually they run like ass. But I only used to see them at Super Auctions.

#956 8 years ago
Quoted from ChrisS:

It's def a good system 11. I think Atlantis will give it a run for its money but that's because Neo's was so amazing at MGC.

That is true. Tho I do like ES. Had one but was too similar feeling to TZ, FH and TAF, so it had to go. Atlantis is more fun and so is Swords of Fury if your talking system 11's. Tho, Atlantis is a frankenstein system 11.

#969 8 years ago
Quoted from Jediturtle:

Avengers is haunting me. I want one so bad I am having bad thoughts again. Seriously considering trying to trade CV for an LE or maybe STTNG for a pro. I love both games, but have had them both a long time and they don't get the blood pumping like they used to. I think I'd have to have an LE though...I'm spoiled by Wolverine now. And STTNG has a theme that won't let me let it go (right?). Then again if someone would actually trade an Avengers/Hulk LE for STTNG it would probably be a done deal. Did I just say that?
The big 6-for-1 trade I did to get my Wolverine awhile back turned out great, even though I got rid of a lot of games I really loved. So this should be the same, right? Right now my Wolverine has really pushed everything else in the collection aside, so maybe an Avengers by its side would rule the world! Ahh...I shouldn't be thinking this. Talk me down guys, talk me down. I love these games...so I must keep them. Right? RIGHT? AHH!
It wouldn't stop there though...I know it wouldn't. I already am lusting after Metallica too. And I know Star Trek will make me want to do something stupid to get it. It's never ending. Damn I hate this hobby...it's a sickness!
(So anyone got an Avengers they would trade? LOL!)

If I had an Avengers i'd be driving it over to your house right now for that trade.

#975 8 years ago
Quoted from centerflank:

Having these 2 side by side is a must do Jedi!

For a bon fire? That's the only reason i'd put those 2 close together in the same proximity. both I feel are terrible games. Might not be Xfiles or SF2 terrible, but terrible nevertheless.

But i'd move that LOTR out of the way before lighting the match, because I wouldn't want to see that get hurt, or the TZ. It's kind of like you have a shit sandwich going there, but with high end pieces of bread.

#977 8 years ago

Then you don't know me very well. Everything I like rocks and everything I hate sucks donkey balls. It's just the way the system works. Everything in between is just neutral.

I'm mainly just giving you shit tho. I don't really hate avengers, but I don't like it either. It's a low neutral. I was neutral to Xmen until I owned it. Then I hated it the more I played it. But it's still not in the Xfiles, FT, SF2 category yet.

#985 8 years ago

Well, obviously it was a joke and we wouldn't burn any of them. Not when you can always sell it for a good game. Xfiles is the only game that I didn't want to finish after the 1st ball. I did play it again at the MPE to see if maybe it has improved in the past 5 years. It had not. What a raving piece of shit Xfiles is.

#993 8 years ago

Centerflank has talked to me in person many times, he knows i'm just messing with him.

#1004 8 years ago

wish this was for sale next year. I don't have the room right now to get it back.

#1007 8 years ago

that shouldn't be hard. I'm sure there are plenty that would trade 2 or 3 games for a LOTR.

#1030 8 years ago
Quoted from Jediturtle:

Alright, I gotta price police myself on this one. I was being way too optimistic at $7.5k. Let's say $7k OBO which I think is more realistic. That puts it a bit under the Boston Pinball ebay year to date average, so that's a good starting point. Still would most like to find an Avengers LE. Pictures are uploading now and I'll be placing an ad on the marketplace and main forum soon.

Don't you tempt me on this one. You hold at your $7.5k price point, I don't want you dropping in my price range.

#1131 8 years ago

well if anyone wants to come and play anything I have, just send me a PM. I'm always around. SOF is getting taken apart and restored this Friday. I have a friend that wants some experience taking a playfield apart and back together, so figured my SOF was a good candidate, since it's one I wanted to do for awhile now.

#1135 8 years ago

yup same one. Btw, I didn't add color changing abilities to Atlantis. That's the way it is. But in the normal version, everything is Red. I changed it to LED blue which accents the look and feel of the game better I think. Same with the conversion of blue bumper caps instead of red.

#1159 8 years ago

Hopefully you can make it over soon. Things will be better.

#1164 8 years ago

I do the playfields, sometimes cabinet touchups, but I don't have the room to do a lot of them, so it depends on how much the cabinet needs.

As for CV's. Send them all over here. I won't complain one bit. The more the merrier. Would be 1000X's better than having a bunch of empty playfields (AKA AFM).

#1214 8 years ago

maybe we should do a group trip sometime? All pile into one vehicle and go. All chip in for gas it would be cheap. I can fit 8 in the pin hauler and get 25 mpg.

#1217 8 years ago

yea, would be a full day. Those of us down here in the bottom corner. Milwaukee, racine, kenosha, can all arrange to meet somewhere, then the madison group can meet up and so on, so we only have to do a couple stops and pick up groups. I'd be in for it.

#1219 8 years ago

either of those days work for me. Doesn't Lloyd have a circus coming up soon? Maybe we should just do it then?

#1222 8 years ago

well that shoots that one. How many games you have there when it's not a Circus?

#1236 8 years ago

yea but if it was a Wi plate that Said IOWA, it would probably say IOWAD

#1244 8 years ago

lets confirm a weekend that works the best for most and make a list. See where that takes us.

#1246 8 years ago

ok, everyone state the weekend saturday that works for you. We will do a running total and majority rules. For me either weekend works, so i'll go with the majority.

#1254 8 years ago

because it's a long drive. Most don't want to have to do the drive and way cheaper on gas if we go as a big group.

#1272 8 years ago

i'd vote for congo as well. Especially if the other 2 choices are Slugfest or Shit Tales.

#1300 8 years ago

nice score on the SOF. I love mine. Actually mines being restored as of right now. Playfield is already out, touchedup and clearcoated and getting put together this week.

#1304 8 years ago
Quoted from AkumaZeto:

Who is doing all that work?

A friend of mine, who wanted to learn how to take playfields apart and put them back together. Since He has it apart, I decided to do a quick restore on the playfields, since it's something I've always wanted to do on this game. Couldn't spend to much time on it, but mine didn't need many touchups. 3 days and it was done, ready for reassembly.

#1321 8 years ago
Quoted from AkumaZeto:

When I first got mine. My wife went down into the Basement at 2am and shut the breaker off to my game room. She came up and said if you dont stop now we wont have Sex again for 6 months lol.

the gameroom isn't in the bedroom anymore?

#1330 8 years ago

man that's a sweet ass gameroom setup you have there. Spaced out great, and lots of move around space. Very sweet.

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#1389 8 years ago

5 hours? thought you were closer than that to me?

#1391 8 years ago

well come over anytime. I'm always around.

#1397 8 years ago

probably not because we all assume that's what's going to happen. Can't be mad about the inevitable.

#1411 8 years ago

if you guys havn't seen. I'm getting a league going for SE WI, and mid area. looks like we are going to go with 20 people max so anyone around here that wants in, let me know and PM me, list is going.

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#3080 7 years ago

says there has been 1400 new posts since i've been in here. That's all I wanted to say. Didn't want to miss out.

#3127 7 years ago

they don't even have 50k games total through the years. Only if you include the 70's and 80's games.

#3174 7 years ago

I can fit 4 in a caravan. I'll take the Jolly park and 3 zaccarias please.

#3176 7 years ago

I don't do apps. I use my phone for phone calls only. (with occasional text). I hate touch screen phones with a passion. When I had one, it was the worst year of using a phone i've ever experienced and refuse to get one ever again. (forced to have one for work but use it as little as possible.

Plus I have a virtual pin, so I can DL all the zaccarias I want. (most need to be redone).

#3185 7 years ago

I'll just buy out the blackberry styles now when they go on clearance. Just use it for eternity.

#3191 7 years ago
Quoted from animesuperj:

Not sure, all he said was it was the "80s one"; and to come get it. I called about an hour and a half after it was posted, and yeah, full mailbox. I'm assuming he got slammed, if it was a real ad.

yea, that was me, I just picked it up about 6 hours ago. turned out to be an Empire Strikes Back. What a turd of a player it is. I'm currently converting it into another Virtual pin. Should kick ass.

#3193 7 years ago

well since there is only 400 made and most are not in the US. You probably won't see one unless it's at a show.

#3195 7 years ago

btw, I was kidding about the pin. I didn't get shit. And if it was an ESB, I sure the hell wouldn't part it out. I would restore it and sell it for something fun.

#3204 7 years ago

He just got you that, so you would do some posing in it, and eventually get to the George Costanza shot.

#3227 7 years ago
Quoted from RustyLizard:

Happy Birthday to me. Pinbot was my bitch today.

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very nice. Lyman has done this to my SOF, every time I bring it to a show. And does it for all 4 names, so i have no choice but to reset the HSTD. I have never done it. but I do have the rules set to extra hard.

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#3268 7 years ago

I see mylar on yours. I can see the line in the gate from here. Stargate is one of the top 8's of all time.

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#3768 7 years ago
Quoted from Jediturtle:

Anyone have a Haunted House for sale in the area? Not looking for CQ quality (or price), but a nice player or even project considered. Been thinking a lot about Taxi lately too if there are any around. Or maybe a No Fear depending on price...
Doctor Who or RFM would be great too, but would have to be on the lower side of the price range.
Let me know!

I know someone that is fairly local that would part with his.

#3779 7 years ago

adult choices? This sounds serious. If you have to move and sell off all your pins, I want dibs on GNR and Sopranos. Oh and the bubble hockey.

#3781 7 years ago

you stay in your middle of the state, and i'll keep the SE corner contained. I think we will just race and see who arrives first. I'd have everything broken down and hauled home, set back up, and leveled, before you even made it halfway here.

#3790 7 years ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

So long as you are paying "Neo is selling prices" that is cool. Chris is a good guy and deserves top dollar.
If he is selling at Neo "price check" prices then it only seems appropriate that the games go to the less fortunate like myself.

Please, I know what you find games at and buy at as well. We both live in the same region and we both know what reasonable is. It's not like we live in CA or NY and wipe our asses with $100's. I just paid $2600 for Pinball magic. You think I underpaid for that?

#3792 7 years ago

if your ever in town long enough. You can come over anytime. You live like 10 min away. maybe 15.

#3802 7 years ago
Quoted from Jediturtle:

You two need to make some sweet, sweet man-love and get it over with.

Twice in one week? how much do you think his butt can take?

#3822 7 years ago

Ken was obsessed with me yesterday. Seems he had about 80 pictures of me.

#3825 7 years ago
Quoted from PinballKen:

You were there?? Are you sure? If this is true I might have to create a thread just for you. I'll look through the pics tonight and see if you're in any.

Sounds like the greatest thread ever made by man.

#3841 7 years ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

Youa re doing it wrong. Supposed ot get the co-workers to sell you their old games form the basement, nit be more competition to buy up the few good games already on the market

It's not really competition since they only want a shit tales. More out of the collectors market, the better.

#3846 7 years ago

I'm sure anyone will part with their LOTR if you throw enough cash around. mines not for sale anymore, but you throw a big enough stack of cash in front of me, it's going out the door.

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#7562 6 years ago
Quoted from AlexF:

Anyone traveling from the Minneapolis area to Madison area in the near future? I've got an EM up there that could use a lift.

i will be going to Minneapolis sometime in the next couple of weeks and heading through madison. Not sure officially when yet tho.

#7564 6 years ago

i'll let you know when I find out I can go to MN to get mine. The owner is only in town certain times, so I have to work with his schedule.

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#7581 6 years ago

love the pinball zombies translite. I'll trade you a WOOLY translite for one.

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#7647 6 years ago

I have a really nice roadshow I just got. Would be willing to trade for indy 500 or open to other offers. Trades open. maybe RS + cash for MET pro.

#7665 6 years ago
Quoted from goatdan:

We talked to multiple different vendors actually and got similar rates of like to dislike.
Again, wait until the info gets out for vendors. I think we found a solution that will make everyone happy. And, to he completely fair, our vendor rates are significantly cheaper than almost any similar sized event that we've ever seen. We try to keep things as reasonable as possible so if there is something that doesn't go perfectly, it's still a great deal.

I think the biggest issue with the band is not being able to hear people when you are trying to talk. Getting over by the booths right by the band. It was very difficult to work out negotiations. if u can figure out a way to minimize the sound level. I think it would be a win for everyone.

#7681 6 years ago
Quoted from Methos:

AFM is one I have always wanted to get some more time on. I enjoy it when I do get to play it.
I was told I had a Flintstones, but unsure until I dig around on the condition. I think it was acquired during one of my lost weekend buying sprees a year ago.

if you have had a MM, you already owned a AFM. Except AFM's toy isn't as cool so it gets old even faster.

#7696 6 years ago
Quoted from Mousin:

I decided to make an account. most of you know me from twisted flippers league and/or shows and tournaments.


about time.

#7702 6 years ago
Quoted from ChrisS:

Someone buy this for me please.
ebay.com link » Rare Basketball Pinball Machine By Data East Red Model One Of Seven Units Made

you would think that if you want 25k for something, you would have an assload of pictures with it. including massive amounts of playfield pics.

#7724 6 years ago

you only have so much control with bands. Being a band manager for a long time, the guys usually turn down the amps during sound check, then slowly keep increase their volumes as they play. The drums only go so low, and everyone else will have to be at that level. But it seems every musician wants to be in front, so they drown each other out. You only have control of the monitors and the mics that are in front of the amps. But the amps alone are enough to drown out the place if they want.

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#7750 6 years ago
Quoted from ralphwiggum:

Weird..... I had a dream where that Waterworld pin flew out of the back of my van on I94 on the way back from Expo. Congrats on finally getting your WW. Looks like it will clean up nicely. Glad Chris was able to grab it for you, and we were able to get it back to his place. Having that in the back of my van kept Chris from buying yet another pin he doesn't have room for

Wish I had a reason not to buy pins I don't have room for. I ended up buying 2 games from expo. I was out of room 13 pins ago.

#7754 6 years ago

zaccaria Soccer Kings

Escape from Lost world.

#7761 6 years ago
Quoted from Methos:

Why would anybody buy pinballs that they don't have room for?
Seems odd, doesn't it?

because I have friends that still have room. Plus, i'm working on getting a bigger house (for past 3 years). Once that happens, I can bring all my babies home. If I didn't have the plan to expand the gameroom, I would not be collecting more than I can hold.

#7765 6 years ago

it's DE. That's as close to system 11 as you can get without actually being one.

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#7804 6 years ago
Quoted from jonogo:

Played the first game in awhile, new guy seemed intrigued.
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he looks about the same way I do when i'm playing FT.

#7807 6 years ago
Quoted from ChrisS:

How's that?
Confused and wondering where the boobs are?

Hey, I can paint tits on those fish if needed.

#7811 6 years ago

don't worry. I would not fret FT because of that. I can put tits on anything. You could have alien poker with tits. Indy 500. Congo. You name it, it can be done.

#7813 6 years ago

FT leaves and hook stays. Nice. Good choices. I prefer hook over FT any day.

#7815 6 years ago

because it's a great layout and an awesome looking game. The rules are lacking, but for the casual player. They don't care.

#7824 6 years ago

yes, please put them side by side so I can play each one with one hand at the same time.

#7837 6 years ago
Quoted from goatdan:

It seems to be more of an all or nothing game than others though.
I'm in the hate it club. Probably my least favorite DMD era machine, and yes - I mean I'd play X-files (*shudder*) before it.

Xfiles? How dare you. FT > Xfiles. FT I can stand playing. Xfiles is torture to have to play all 3 balls. Same can be said for SF2. Horrible DMD's.

#7847 6 years ago

yah der hay. Fargo is dahm far away der hay.

#7851 6 years ago
Quoted from BillPinball:

LOL Thanks Neo
That Police Force playfield signed by Python you restored for us is amazing
Thanks again for the great work!

you know what's funny about that. Is that ND arn't the only ones that talk like that. I had relatives from here, that talked exactly like that.

#7854 6 years ago
Quoted from goatdan:

I can't stand Fish Tales. I seriously walk away after a ball or two. I forced myself to play one a while ago, and I played three games on it and I just couldn't stand it. Have really tried to give it a fair shake.
X-files is horrible, but I can get through it a bit more.
SF2 I actually own one of those, so...
Never said I was normal.

WTF, why can't I thumbs up this shit? You are going to have to settle for a happy face.

#7856 6 years ago

Now I want to thumbs down the new thumbs up location.

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#7866 6 years ago

really? That's pretty sweet. I don't know where that is, but I need to learn. Is it on cleveland ave I take it? Near moorland or closer to hwy 100?

#7868 6 years ago

I like the direction the rules are going. Very video game like. The pro is very very stripped down compared to the premium. It plays smooth, but feels very cheap.

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#7897 6 years ago

Anyone local interested in a space invaders? Cabinet is nice. Backglasses are absolutely perfect. Got it to boot once. Needs a new MPU board or someone that wants to fix the acid along the bottom. Everything was working mechanically the one time I got it to boot. Power switch is flaky too. $800 OBO. If it doesn't sell, I'll buy the alltek and throw it in and shop it out sell it for $1300. If you already have SI. Would be a great game to combine with another to make a really minty one. Open for trades as well.









#7899 6 years ago

actually there are games I hate worse than FT. I hate AFM more than FT. But neither of them I think are the worst DMD's ever. Not like Xfiles and SF2. Rolling stones (stern) is down there as well.

#7903 6 years ago
Quoted from northvibe:

Where is Waterworld ranked on your list?

higher than all 4 of the previously mentioned.

#7912 6 years ago
Quoted from northvibe:

hahaha. It actually is a poor mans MM, imo. I'm going to start the Waterworld revolution. Get the price jacked up

waterworlds layout is pretty damn good. Kinda like Hook. Great layout and look, shitty rules. If they could recode gottliebs like they are doing for DE. Many of these system 3's that don't get any love would be very sought after.

#7914 6 years ago
Quoted from KingPinGames:

yes, but that is not really pinball related, unless you count the fact that between the ring and the ceremony i could have purchased a couple more machines.

ouch. couple machines like EM early SS or a couple of NIB?

#7926 6 years ago
Quoted from northvibe:

I'm engaged as well. The wedding is f'ing nuts. Try a few nib and add a remake for fun. And people tell me that's cheap...wtf. Fiancée doesn't like when I bring up prices of wedding vs pinball
Congrats Kingpin!

well my wedding cost the same as 2 sheet of playfield glass from PBL and a tank a gas.

#7928 6 years ago
Quoted from ChrisS:

What a romantic.

Hell yes. Well, it's like this. What's better? Spending a shit ton of money on a one day party. or taking that money and put it towards your house that you will be starting your life with. So you can either start your new life together with a big debt, or with a nice chunk of your house paid off. She was just happy I even agreed to get married. That was an accomplishment in itself.

#7994 6 years ago
Quoted from lordloss:

rmn.craigslist.org link

and the playfield isn't blown out. That is surprising.

#8007 6 years ago

actually Atlantis and truck stop were during the merger. They actually use the same transformer, which are the ONLY 2 games that use that transformer. I'd love to play one.

#8016 6 years ago

I wouldn't say $1000 DMDs are that rare. You still can have your pick of SF2's for $600-700. Still people buying them for that price.

#8018 6 years ago

I try to pretend I don't see SF2's whenever possible. It's kind of like EP1, 2 and 3. I just pretend they don't exist. But friends have been finding them for $600 recently. I've had around 10 chances over the past couple of years to buy them. I just laugh, because it would be waste of $600. The next one that someone tries to get me to buy, i'll see if I can snag it for you. But I refuse to pay over $400 for one and even that would be waste. Horrible horrible game. easily tied for the worst DMD ever............EVER!!!!!!!!!!!

#8020 6 years ago

I'd have a whole row of WOF over having to put up with one SF2.

Btw, the other shitfest DMD is X-files. Just in case anyone was wondering, what other game they should lift the playfield up, fill with cat litter, and let the cats go to town on.

#8023 5 years ago
Quoted from northvibe:

Hahahaha. Really?! I'll have to play sf2 again. Wof I lost on in a tourney at pin circus. Put a bad taste in my fingers
Haven't tried a xfiles yet, but 24 and Viper Night Driving weren't as good as I thought they'd be, when I tried at Mgc :/

don't tell Dan. VND is his favorite game. It's not bad if you can hear it and you play it with the rules set a certain way. 24 looks great, and you think it would be really complex with the shit ton of inserts it has, But the code was never really finished. could have been a really good game, and really fell short.

#8029 5 years ago
Quoted from Pinder:

Come on, X-files isn't that bad! SF2 does suck though, agreed.

it is horrible beyond belief. It's the only time I played a game on location. PAID for my game, and still wanted to walk away after ball 2. The only reason I didn't fall asleep, is because a bulb came loose and started rolling around on the playfield. I had more fun shooting at that, and trying to get it lodged into something, than I did playing the actual game.

#8032 5 years ago

you sure that's 11' ? I have the exact same one, and mines 14' from back of the cabinet to the front.

does the one to the left of it have flash on it?

#8036 5 years ago
Quoted from Hoopjohn:

Definitely an 11' ball bowler. As is the one to the left. Both 1957 models. United didn't have flash on there ball bowlers until 1961.
Spent the day doing cleanup & minor issues on the (new to me) bowler, a 16' United Coronado 1967, that according to the seller, sat in this parents basement for 40 years. Only issue I've found so far is 3 of the Jones plugs need attention. One has a male end that fell off at my touch, one has a wire thats not connected, and the worst has a broken off bakelite end with a wire that should be connected to the broken off piece.
Other than the Jones plug/bakelite issues, its cleaning up surprisingly well. Went through 3 rolls of paper towels and lots of mean green.

well, shit, now I have to go down stairs and measure mine again.

#8038 5 years ago

ok, just measured it. And it came out to 10"

and the bowler came out to 14' from the back of the head. It's exactly the same model as yours. 1956 Team bowler. Must have had different size versions of the same model.

#8054 5 years ago
Quoted from ChrisS:

So when he pulls it does it just sit in a warehouse if he doesn't really sell things?
Like I said. Lots of props for putting an LE on route. I don't care how much play it gets at a 1.00 a game that takes a lot of games to recoup your costs.

at least 7400 plays. Which really doesn't take that much. Add more for matches and free games won.

#8058 5 years ago
Quoted from goatdan:

Wait there...
7400 plays, but then you split with the location, usual is 50 / 50, so that means 14,800 plays. That's assuming no breakdowns and the game never gets serviced.
From what I know of multiple ops that I talk with - I'm always curious about earnings - *in general*, the best route pins make somewhere between $300-$450 / month. Let's say that since this is an LE and a higher cost, it gets double that...
At $600 / month, it would be just over two years for it to break even. At $900, it would be a year and five months.
Add in breakdowns and regular maintenance, and you're out two to three years easy, and that's ONLY considering if it continues to earn at a high rate for all of that time, which is pretty unlikely.
Operating pinball is hard.

yea, I wasn't really thinking about the split. Was thinking more on the guy that puts one in his own business that doesn't have to split. So yea, would take twice as long if not more depending on the split.

the resale market has really helped ops recoup the money that wasn't earned. Back in the day, you pretty much had to throw away machines after they were done being routed. Now, you usually can get around half of what you paid back when you pull it off route. or if you find a sucker, 70% of what you paid. (or if it was routed gently and held up like new)

#8061 5 years ago

most route games for years,. when I say routed games, i'm talking about the games like a LOTR pulled off route after 5 years, with flipper cabinet worn white. That's your typical op blowout game. Which usually sells a lot cheaper if you know what you are doing. unshopped, switches out, half of the GI's burnt out. The typical.

#8085 5 years ago
Quoted from Eric_S:

C'mon, who doesn't want to make a drive to NE Wisconsin in the middle of December?

december? I thought it was april out there.

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#8142 5 years ago

I wonder if this is the same guy, that sold someone a paragon where they sprayed clear over the entire game. With plastics, rubbers and everything on. clearcoated the entire playfield. Was the single biggest idiot moment i've ever seen.

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#8174 5 years ago

the porn convention is already? I didn't book yet. SHIT!

#8193 5 years ago

I thought you were talking about GOT premium. Whos got that?

#8198 5 years ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

Great First Alt Brew Monthly.
THANKS to all that came out


at first glace it looks like chris is wearing flip flops.

2 months later
#8393 5 years ago

Putting 3 games up for sale or trade soon. Can bring to MGC. All games are 100% working and playing great. Displays are all nice and boards are clean. I have more pictures if you want to see more. I really need space, so i'd consider a 3 for 1 trade as well.

Strange science $1200
Escape from the Lost World $1100
Travel Time $600


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#8422 5 years ago

Strange science, Escape from lost world and Travel time have been spoken for.

#8424 5 years ago
Quoted from ChrisS:

Congrats NEO. After leaving your house I was really questioning why I didn't offer to buy them.

because your out of space like me.

#8432 5 years ago

it is an awesome area of his house, but you could fit 4 more games in that area if....

#8453 5 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

Heavy equipment has arrived. And work has started. Been a long time organizing but the expansion of SS Billiards is finally underway. Room for 20 more pins to play. New game sales, and mods and merchandise.
It's going to be a great year for pinball !
LTG : )


why the hell would they expand in your parking lot? it's not like you have much of a parking lot anyway. Something is fishy.

#8480 5 years ago
Quoted from KingPinGames:

The Hobbit Limited Edition at Moosejaw Brew & Pizza, Lake Delton, WI (Wisconsin Dells) installed this morning.
Current lineup
Wizard of Oz
Spiderman Vault Edition
The Hobbit Limited Edition


are those yours at the moosejaw in Wi Dells?

#8491 5 years ago
Quoted from PinballKen:

Want to carpool up there?

can't league, that's why I can't go

#8501 5 years ago

where the hell can i get an big ass inflatable stay puft? That would be awesome for the top of the house for halloween.

Edit: NVM, found it and already ordered.

#8510 5 years ago

Look whoarrived thisweekend while I was away at MGC.



#8513 5 years ago

it barely fits in the house. Good thing I have 10ft ceilings.

#8519 5 years ago
Quoted from LesManley:

I so wanted to go to that Epic Party too. If you can make it Jared, we would love to have you!
Neo, you should make the trip and bring Stay Puft and some other sconnies with you.

i wish I could. I really wanted to make that party anyway, but I cannot. We have league finals on that day

#8533 5 years ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

we also have the WI launch party going on that same day so unfortunately I cant make it up either. Woudl love to have taken my Congo and gotten it signed!

yup, and I wanted to attend that party too, and couldn't for the same reason.

#8535 5 years ago

looks like I should be able to make your launch then.

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#8580 5 years ago

Ernie is looking like he's aging well. The years have been kind.

#8586 5 years ago

bet it was awesome. Wish I could have made it.

#8610 5 years ago
Quoted from Harvs:

Curious if anyone is going to the Michigan pin show in 2 weeks and has room to bring a pin back? I will pay!
PM me if you can help. Thanks

why don't you go? is that MPE or Zoo? I didn't put it on the calendar.

#8612 5 years ago
Quoted from Harvs:

I can..., But I would have to miss my sons soccer tournament (out of town) that entire wkend and I never miss! Anything for pinball tho, right? Ha

shit, I can't make that one. League finals that weekend.

#8624 5 years ago
Quoted from policano:

Added Metallica Pro led to the lineup today. Elvis has left the building.

MET is a great addition. Looking at those pics one would think you are a NIB sterns snob. but looking at your collection, your well diversed and have a little of everything. Kudos to you!

#8626 5 years ago
Quoted from TomGWI:

Your kinda become a NIB Stern Snob yourself. How many NIB Stern's have you purchased verse other companies?

well considering I couldn't buy NIB back in the day before there was only one company out, and we do have variety now, but so far there they really go above and beyond my price limit, or are making stuff i have no desire in. But I will tell you this. There is one game being made that is not by Stern, that I will be purchasing under all circumstances.

Besides, I can't be a NIB stern snob. I just bought a Indy 500 and before that, i bought a zankor and a Spooky. I couldn't find them NIB so I had to settle for the first one I ever saw.

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#8636 5 years ago

normally, i'd be on your ass for even considering selling the lionman. But since chris desperately needs a good system 11. I'll allow it without an ass chewing.

#8646 5 years ago
Quoted from Methos:

Just get one with LEDs in it already and then you can blame the previous owner.

yea, but chris will go above and beyond. because he's on a kick about colored bulbs in the GI's. (shudder).

#8650 5 years ago

This is Chris

Chris is putting colored bulbs in his GI's

.... Don't be like Chris.

#8653 5 years ago
Quoted from ChrisS:

Ok, that's it. Next year for twisted flippers finals GIs on all machines will be switched to UV.............good luck!!!!!

Wait, you mean they were not UV now? :/

That's ok, I didn't win shit anyway, so go ahead. I can't get worse.

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#8697 5 years ago
Quoted from Harvs:

*Edit - No longer needed. Thanks!
Anyone happen to have a widebody lockdown bar in decent condition near Milwaukee? My Roadshow has a custom painted turd of a lockdown bar on it and need to replace asap!

soak it in lacquer thinner and that shit will look like new.

#8704 5 years ago