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#14151 47 days ago

I guess I will attempt to post it here then:
We are a mess. We need to clean our house. If people are coming in to protest and grieve with us - welcome! If you are coming in to just raze our city and spread pain - we don’t want you, please leave!

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#14152 47 days ago
Quoted from MrBally:

He probably wouldn't have been arrested if he wasn't suspected of passing counterfeit US Currency.

Gee why didn’t I think of that.

Brilliant point. Thanks for saying out loud what most of the racists are just thinking today.

What other relatively petty, non violent crimes do you think the death penalty without trial should be applied to?

#14153 47 days ago

Holiday gas station about 3/4ths of a mile north of me is closing at 7pm tonight.

I don't think they are expecting trouble out here yet. Probably all of the Holiday gas stations in the Twin Cities are closing at 7pm.

#14154 47 days ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Gee why didn’t I think of that.
Brilliant point.
What other relatively petty, non violent crimes do you think the death penalty without trial should be applied to?

Thanks. Counterfeiting isn't a petty crime. However, we have no idea if this was an intentional passing of a note or if he was a stooge just spending change he got from someone else.

#14155 47 days ago
Quoted from MrBally:

He probably wouldn't have been arrested if he wasn't suspected of passing counterfeit US Currenc

I'm not really in that camp. I knew a guy who passed a couple of twenties that were bogus (did unknowingly) and they didn't arrest him. They did go to his home ask him about it and had him come downtown to talk with them but never arrested him. I also think they were federal agents that contacted him, either way there is no way this was ever supposed to occur in an instance like it did. Smacks of purposeful intent on the officer(s) part the way this went down.

#14157 47 days ago

Good resource to have. Do you know who is maintaining this and do we know if it is actively being updated?

#14158 47 days ago
Quoted from RWH:

Don't troll me Levi, you've not heard me ever say anything about protest that were peaceful.
So you think looting and destroying property of innocent people is an acceptable way to affect change? As I said earlier I fully support those that want change and want to protest, the event was tragic to say the least but I do not support those who's sole purpose is the advancement of anarchy at others expense.

If people feel the social contract doesn’t apply to them, then they won’t apply to it. Kind of like those OG rowdy’s throwing tea into the Boston harbor.

Kaepernick had the right idea, and he was maligned and black-balled for it.

How exactly are you supporting those that want change and want to protest?

#14159 47 days ago
Quoted from EJS:

Do you know who is maintaining this and do we know if it is actively being updated?

No idea.

LTG : (

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#14161 47 days ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Well they tried peaceful kneeling, and if I recall you weren’t a huge fan of that either.

Such a huge strawman argument - nobody complained about protesters kneeling. People complained about people protesting while on the job. (sorry, I've seen that meme so many times, it annoys me).

#14162 47 days ago

I think it’s weird that the cop who shot George Floyd worked with George doing security at a downtown club for 17 years?So they knew each other right,they had to of how come we don’t hear about this on the news?(agenda)?

#14163 47 days ago
Quoted from Damen:

I think it’s weird that the cop who shot George Floyd

???

#14164 47 days ago

The cop has rightly been arrested and charged. This has nothing to do with protest anymore.

#14165 47 days ago
Quoted from John_In_WI:

The cop has rightly been arrested and charged. This has nothing to do with protest anymore.

There’s still 3 more cops waiting to be charged.

There’s still hundreds of years of issues here being worked out.

Takes more than one arrest and a burned to the ground Arby’s to just flip the switch.

#14166 47 days ago

“Chauvin was our off-duty police for almost the entirety of the 17 years that we were open,” Santamaria recently told KSTP. She also says that Chauvin and George used to work the same shift and had most recently done so within the last year”

SANTAMARIA haha! The world is a stage!

Run by small white hats!!!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mKDbf7VOhH8/maxresdefault.jpg

#14167 47 days ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

There’s still 3 more cops waiting to be charged.
There’s still hundreds of years of issues here being worked out.
Takes more than one arrest and a burned to the ground Arby’s to just flip the switch.

How many wide screens = Justice?

#14169 46 days ago
Quoted from John_In_WI:

How many wide screens = Justice?

Not only tvs, you need to loot some hospitals and clinics too, not to mention smash postal trucks and burn the post office down. The rioters are morons, next week they'll go back to their shitty life and do nothing to change their situation. Real change starts at home, I know plenty of folks that grew up with nothing and decided to do something about it. Unfortunately the new generation thinks everything should be handed to then.

#14170 46 days ago

Excessive force is nothing new, we just got video of it this time.

That being said, rioting is never a proper response. Protesting, yes, but not burning and pillaging.

Though it does let off steam, like the bonfire on that one episode of MASH. Doesn't excuse it however. How can they not see their actions reinforce negative stereotypes? Two wrongs don't make a right and all that?

Still, can the average pinball enthusiast even imagine himself in the plight of the racially oppressed?

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#14172 46 days ago

Oh, and there’s this:

“Minnesota’s governor has warned of outside influence on protests...he has suggested it might be that of white supremacists or cartels.“ (WaPo)

#14173 46 days ago
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:

Oh, and there’s this:
“Minnesota’s governor has warned of outside influence on protests...he has suggested it might be that of white supremacists or cartels.“ (WaPo)

Politicians gonna politic.

#14174 46 days ago

Not looking good for tonight.

People in the effected areas are encouraging people on Facebook who are living close, to leave their lights on. And sit on their front porches or lawns to deter looters.

Many suburbs are imposing curfews and adding more police patrols.

And Pentagon Invokes The Insurrection Act of 1807 Orders The Army To Be Prepared To Deploy US Military Police To Quell Soros-Funded Riots In Minneapolis.

Anyone close to this, try and stay safe.

#14175 46 days ago
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:

Oh, and there’s this:
“Minnesota’s governor has warned of outside influence on protests...he has suggested it might be that of white supremacists or cartels.“ (WaPo)

It sounds like most of the damage caused is by outside provocateur's. Nearly everyone arrested is from out of State.

This guy doesn't appear to be a protestor and is stirring up trouble.

#14176 46 days ago

Rumor is that guy is an off duty cop.

#14177 46 days ago
Quoted from pinballkim:

Rumor is that guy is an off duty cop.

Already proved it wasn't the suspected St. Paul police officer.

LTG : )

#14179 46 days ago

I hate to say this LTG but the fact that they allowed them to burn a precinct without consequence will only embolden them to pursue even more senseless violent acts.

#14180 46 days ago
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:

Oh, and there’s this:
“Minnesota’s governor has warned of outside influence on protests...he has suggested it might be that of white supremacists or cartels.“ (WaPo)

Quoted from MikeS:

It sounds like most of the damage caused is by outside provocateur's. Nearly everyone arrested is from out of State.
This guy doesn't appear to be a protestor and is stirring up trouble.

Guys, not here to pick a fight, but there are so much unsubstantiated news and rumors out there about these protests.

Mikes One of our local stations did a fact check which proves your claim isn't true.

https://www.kare11.com/mobile/article/news/investigations/kare-11-investigates-records-show-arrests-mostly-minnesotans-as-george-floyd-protests-riots-continue-minneapolis-st-paul/89-73f3e0e8-0664-41d5-8d3e-4467d04da7cb

#14181 46 days ago

I don’t see a police report to read, I see a video of a white guy smashing windows out of an autozone and tweet from the police department saying it wasn’t their guy. The picture they blurred out looks surprisingly like the guy in the video, that said I hope you are right.

#14182 46 days ago
Quoted from MikeS:

It sounds like most of the damage caused is by outside provocateur's. Nearly everyone arrested is from out of State.
This guy doesn't appear to be a protestor and is stirring up trouble.

This is completely fucked up.

#14183 46 days ago
Quoted from AFM95:

Guys, not here to pick a fight, but there are so much unsubstantiated news and rumors out there about these protests.
Mikes One of our local stations did a fact check to prove your claim isn't true.
https://www.kare11.com/mobile/article/news/investigations/kare-11-investigates-records-show-arrests-mostly-minnesotans-as-george-floyd-protests-riots-continue-minneapolis-st-paul/89-73f3e0e8-0664-41d5-8d3e-4467d04da7cb

Guys, not here to pick a fight, but there are so much unsubstantiated news and rumors out there about these protests.
Mikes One of our local stations did a fact check which proves your claim isn't true.
https://www.kare11.com/mobile/article/news/investigations/kare-11-investigates-records-show-arrests-mostly-minnesotans-as-george-floyd-protests-riots-continue-minneapolis-st-paul/89-73f3e0e8-0664-41d5-8d3e-4467d04da7cb

read my post again. I never claimed he was an officer. Just said he didn't appear to be a protestor and was a provocateur stirring up trouble.

#14184 46 days ago

More info from todays press conference inferring that these riots are being started by outsiders

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/05/30/every-person-arrested-in-saint-paul-last-night-was-from-out-of-state-mayor-says/ Every Person Arrested In Saint Paul Last Night Was From Out Of State, Mayor Says - Forbes

#14185 46 days ago

I'm not sure what city this is but it appears to be more outsiders doing damage while the protestors are telling them to stop.

https://twitter.com/Patriot_Anon1/status/1266762924741267462?s=09

#14186 46 days ago

I believe that was Eugene Oregon.

#14187 46 days ago
Quoted from MikeS:

read my post again. I never claimed he was an officer. Just said he didn't appear to be a protestor and was a provocateur stirring up trouble.

Mike,

I reread your post. You stated "It sounds like most of the damage caused is by outside provocateur's. Nearly everyone arrested is from out of State."

How did I misread your post with my reply? The local news directly states that nearly everyone that was arrested in Minneapolis IS from the state of Minnesota. It was fact checked.

#14188 46 days ago
Quoted from MikeS:

More info from todays press conference inferring that these riots are being started by outsiders
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/05/30/every-person-arrested-in-saint-paul-last-night-was-from-out-of-state-mayor-says/ Every Person Arrested In Saint Paul Last Night Was From Out Of State, Mayor Says - Forbes

KARE11 on air now checking Hennepin County (Minneapolis) jail finding a lot of MN residential arrest records (A.J. Lagoe) despite officials saying otherwise.

But honestly I don't care if they are MN or not MN, it needs to stop happening now.

#14189 46 days ago
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:

And he probably wouldn't have died if he hadn’t been murdered.

Agreed.

#14191 46 days ago
Quoted from AFM95:

Mike,
I reread your post. You stated "It sounds like most of the damage caused is by outside provocateur's. Nearly everyone arrested is from out of State."
How did I misread your post with my reply? The local news directly states that nearly everyone that was arrested in Minneapolis IS from the state of Minnesota. It was fact checked.

My bad. I thought you were referring to the umbrella guy. Will be interesting to see more data when it is released and who was arrested for what acts as well as where they are from.

I think you have to be wary of outside instigators whenever there are protests. Our former Governor even considered hiring them to put a negative spin on what were peaceful protests at the time.

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/why-did-wisconsin-governor-scott-walker-participate-discussions-about-disrupting-peacefu/

#14192 46 days ago
Quoted from RWH:

I hate to say this LTG but the fact that they allowed them to burn a precinct without consequence will only embolden them to pursue even more senseless violent acts.

I understand.

I do wonder if they simply didn't have the manpower to stop it. Short of using lethal force.

This wasn't just one area they had to worry about.

I don't know if there is anyway to even prepare for how quickly it got out of hand.

#14193 46 days ago

Stores are boarded up two blocks from my house tonight. Those stores are about two miles from Lake/Lyndale where a gas station is still smoldering. Helicopters are circling. Makes me wonder if I need to stay up tonight. How far will the protests and violence spread?

#14194 46 days ago
Quoted from MikeS:

My bad. I thought you were referring to the umbrella guy. Will be interesting to see more data when it is released and who was arrested for what acts as well as where they are from.
I think you have to be wary of outside instigators whenever there are protests. Our former Governor even considered hiring them to put a negative spin on what were peaceful protests at the time.
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/why-did-wisconsin-governor-scott-walker-participate-discussions-about-disrupting-peacefu/

No problem Mike.

I agree with you - there are definitely outside influences in most large protests. It's too bad that there are people in this world that grasp at any opportunity to ruin the lives of others.

#14195 46 days ago
Quoted from LTG:

I understand.
I do wonder if they simply didn't have the manpower to stop it. Short of using lethal force.
This wasn't just one area they had to worry about.
I don't know if there is anyway to even prepare for how quickly it got out of hand.

I also suspect this to be the case. Lack of manpower coupled with unclear marching orders. I think it was night 2 that was the first National Guard night and they didn't have clear orders of what exactly they were supposed to do until something like 4 am when things were winding down. Night 3 everyone had clear roles, and it was one of the largest National Guard presence ever in the state, and they were still overwhelmed. Nat guard isn't a police force, they were/are there specifically to protect gov buildings, firefighters, EMS, etc... and support police (i.e. use vehicles to block roads and the like). Police back off, they back off.

Tonight roads closed, maxxed out Nat Guard deployment...I suspect they will still be overwhelmed.

Every night, the effort is ratcheted up significantly. Every night it isn't sufficient. Hindsight being 20/20, they should have been far more proactive. But other than a huge presence, I don't really know what the police and security forces can do here without there being mass injuries.

I am open to listening to suggestions on that, (not that I have the power to do much more than sit at home clutching my pearls).

#14196 46 days ago
Quoted from pinballkim:

I don’t see a police report to read, I see a video of a white guy smashing windows out of an autozone and tweet from the police department saying it wasn’t their guy. The picture they blurred out looks surprisingly like the guy in the video, that said I hope you are right.

Police denied it was him. The umbrella cops ex Girlfriend confirmed it is in fact him. I don’t know the truth, but it sure seems that guy had a plan to inside, came prepared and with a plan. Wish someone had ripped his mask off.

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#14199 46 days ago

My condolences to the family of Mr Floyd and to all the people being affected by the traged and aftermath that is still unfolding. Stay smart and safe everyone.

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