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United Bowling Alley Restoration Attempt: Help Gladly Accepted!


By RonSS

6 months ago



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    #351 8 days ago
    Quoted from MANTO1975:

    is it very hard to separate the lane into two sections and what is involved.

    When separating the lanes sections, there should be a board (like a 1 X 4) screwed up underneath the formica at
    the seam to join them together. It's best to take the 4 screws out of the front section. Best to do this first before
    taking out the 2 long jointing bolts..
    I know Ron mentioned the ball lift box separates, but to be truthful, it's not normal for the ball lift section to separate from
    the back lane section. I've actually seen it where it's not only screwed, but also glued on. Years back, I had to change
    one out, and it was a bitch. Had to pry it apart. I always leave the ball lift box and rear lane section as one..
    14 footers are actually easier to move than 11 footers. The longest piece after apart is 8 ft.
    When United first made the 14 footers, they made them one piece and they were not easy to transport to say the least.
    I had moved one before. Shortly after production, Vendors must have complained, and then United made the 14 footers a
    split alley. You don't see them often, but there are a few of the early one piece 14 ft. lane sections out there..

    #352 8 days ago

    Mopar, thank you, I forgot about the other board. I don't believe mine had it, although Jay should check the scrap wood pile I gave him.

    #353 8 days ago
    Quoted from RonSS:

    Mopar, thank you, I forgot about the other board. I don't believe mine had it, although Jay should check the scrap wood pile I gave him.

    Yours had the lane connector, it was in the "scrap" pile you gave me. Lol

    #354 8 days ago
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    #355 8 days ago

    Hey, did you get that hinge issue resolved?

    #356 8 days ago

    I broke down the ball lift motor tonight. I could barely turn the pully by hand. One of the 3 gears is seated in the back half (pully side) of the aluminum case and spins in the hole of the case. It was not spinning very easily. I popped the gear shaft out and polished the shaft and the hole it sits in. Then lightly greased the shafts and filled the case with oil. I assumed there was supposed to be oil in there since it had a fill hole on the side and a gasket between the 2 pieces of the case. Just played 5 games back to back and everything worked great. Just need to finish up some small stuff and do the stencils. I'm pretty psyched though.

    #357 8 days ago
    Quoted from RonSS:

    Hey, did you get that hinge issue resolved?

    Yes all the hinges are good and the cabinet straightened and reinforced.

    #358 8 days ago

    Here's the culprit. Would barely turn where it was seated in the case.

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    #359 7 days ago

    Weird that it played fine for a while then acted up. Heat/friction or gear positioning off?

    #360 7 days ago
    Quoted from RonSS:

    Weird that it played fine for a while then acted up. Heat/friction or gear positioning off?

    It was super tight and you could barely turn it by hand. Couple that with some heat after the motor ran for a while and slowly ground to a stop.

    #361 7 days ago
    Quoted from Jaymach1:

    I broke down the ball lift motor tonight. I could barely turn the pully by hand. One of the 3 gears is seated in the back half (pully side) of the aluminum case and spins in the hole of the case. It was not spinning very easily. I popped the gear shaft out and polished the shaft and the hole it sits in. Then lightly greased the shafts and filled the case with oil. I assumed there was supposed to be oil in there since it had a fill hole on the side and a gasket between the 2 pieces of the case. Just played 5 games back to back and everything worked great. Just need to finish up some small stuff and do the stencils. I'm pretty psyched though.

    Nice work!

    #362 7 days ago
    Quoted from cad-kid:

    Congrats on your purchase. In seeing your photo I'm not 100% sure that the lane does separate (I hope it does for easier moving). From the photos that really doesn't look all that bad.
    There is also a FB group for bowlers, shuffles, & skeeball machines.
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1829056463775012/

    Great, thanks very much for the info.

    #363 7 days ago
    Quoted from Mopar:

    When separating the lanes sections, there should be a board (like a 1 X 4) screwed up underneath the formica at
    the seam to join them together. It's best to take the 4 screws out of the front section. Best to do this first before
    taking out the 2 long jointing bolts..
    I know Ron mentioned the ball lift box separates, but to be truthful, it's not normal for the ball lift section to separate from
    the back lane section. I've actually seen it where it's not only screwed, but also glued on. Years back, I had to change
    one out, and it was a bitch. Had to pry it apart. I always leave the ball lift box and rear lane section as one..
    14 footers are actually easier to move than 11 footers. The longest piece after apart is 8 ft.
    When United first made the 14 footers, they made them one piece and they were not easy to transport to say the least.
    I had moved one before. Shortly after production, Vendors must have complained, and then United made the 14 footers a
    split alley. You don't see them often, but there are a few of the early one piece 14 ft. lane sections out there..

    Thanks Mopar, great information, the guy that I have purchased it from measured it from the back to the front and he said that it was 14 feet, so does that mean it is classed as a 14 foot machine? so maybe this one is a full one piece machine by looking at the photos, do you know how heavy it would be? could 4 adult men lift it onto a car trailer?
    cheers
    Trevor

    #364 7 days ago

    Thanks for all the information everyone.
    cheers

    #365 7 days ago
    Quoted from MANTO1975:

    could 4 adult men lift it onto a car trailer?

    Because of the ball lift box, the rear of the lane section is quite heavy, but for sure,
    you "Do Not" want to take of the ball lift box. You want to leave it as one piece.
    Even a 14 ft. "non-split" alley, four guys can easily enough lift and move the lane section
    once the head is off..
    Once you pick it up, you may want to start its own thread..

    #366 7 days ago

    Without the ball lift box, I and a friend carried the bug lane section. It definitely isn't light, but 4 guys would be a cake walk.

    If it's the full 14 feet, definitely a 4 man job. Could probably get away with 3 people.

    Jay, I'm excited to see this finished up! You do such great work!

    #367 7 days ago
    Quoted from RonSS:

    Without the ball lift box, I and a friend carried the bug lane section. It definitely isn't light, but 4 guys would be a cake walk.
    If it's the full 14 feet, definitely a 4 man job. Could probably get away with 3 people.
    Jay, I'm excited to see this finished up! You do such great work!

    Thanks Ron, much appreciated. Just waiting on Gary to cut out my stencils. Lol

    #368 4 days ago

    I decided to get rid of the big switch stack below the lane and replace it with a toggle switch setup. Makes it way easier for servicing the game. Every time I had a problem it was always in the back of my head that it could be that switch stack. No more. First toggle is for the service light, middle is for the pin reset motor, and the 3rd is the ball lift motor. A before and after.

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    #369 4 days ago
    Quoted from Jaymach1:

    I decided to get rid of the big switch stack below the lane and replace it with a toggle switch setup. Makes it way easier for servicing the game. Every time I had a problem it was always in the back of my head that it could be that switch stack. No more. First toggle is for the service light, middle is for the pin reset motor, and the 3rd is the ball lift motor. A before and after.[quoted image][quoted image]

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