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United Bowling Alley Restoration Attempt: Help Gladly Accepted!


By RonSS

7 months ago



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  • Latest reply 20 days ago by Jaymach1
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    #301 3 months ago

    All I need is one guess who is taking it...

    #302 3 months ago

    Oh no, I sold it.

    I was doing ok, but knew I would run into a few more areas that would take time. I also realized it ultimately wasn't going to stay in my basement when finished.

    Seemed like a good time to cut and run. I could sell it at a reasonable price for both parties.

    I'll let the new owner do the reveal if they so desire. Here's a clue, I've seen their work in person and it's consistently amazing.

    Sorry, guesses receive no answers.

    #303 3 months ago

    Dammit, you were getting there. Repairing from the dead is 1/2 of the fun. Enjoyed this thread.

    1 week later
    #304 3 months ago

    Im happy to say I picked up this bowler from Ron. Great game from a great pinsider. I'd also like to thank Ron for doing a lot of the PIA time consuming stuff. I will try to update the thread but im sure it wont be as in depth as Rons posts. I did get the pin hood back in 1 solid piece thus far. I tightened up the cabinet a bit and straightened it out. It now locks. I'm slowly going through it this week and hope to put it together by the end of the holiday. Then tear it back apart and finish the cabinet after its working. The goal is to finish it and get it in the basement before my fiancé isn't my fiancé. Thanks again Ron.

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    #305 3 months ago

    Thanks for continuing this thread it’s been very informative. At some point I want to pick up a bowler and I’m sure this will help me out in the future.

    #306 3 months ago
    Quoted from Murphdom:

    Thanks for continuing this thread it’s been very informative. At some point I want to pick up a bowler and I’m sure this will help me out in the future.

    Ill try to help when I can. Ron gave me a good start. its mostly cosmetic stuff left. I think I fixed a few issues Ron was having but I wont know for sure till I plug her in.

    #307 3 months ago

    I'm counting on you!

    I'm so happy this machine will be revived. Truly. I know it's in good hands. Plus, it's close, so I might be able to play it

    #308 3 months ago

    And what the he'll is that "1" pin? I'm #1?

    #309 3 months ago
    Quoted from RonSS:

    And what the he'll is that "1" pin? I'm #1?

    LOL. Soon as its done I'll have a game party at the house. My basement should be done around the same time. If I have any problems when I fire the bowler up I'll just have Gary wave his hands over it. It seems to work.

    #310 3 months ago
    Quoted from Jaymach1:

    If I have any problems when I fire the bowler up I'll just have Gary wave his hands over it. It seems to work.

    That cracked me up!

    #311 3 months ago

    Here's a little tip on the pin hood nose cone. The reason they crack is because they routed ribs in that piece(kind of like an accordion) so the wood would make the bend which in turn made it really weak. Rons buddy used this same technique to make the replacement piece I currently have and it came out great. After I attached the new one, I then filled the ribs with 2 part epoxy. It really strengthens it up and makes it so it wont crack again. If you have one that isn't cracked I'd recommend doing this before it eventually happens. Im sure you could use something besides epoxy but its what I like to use.

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    #312 3 months ago
    Quoted from Jaymach1:

    Here's a little tip on the pin hood nose cone. The reason they crack is because they routed ribs in that piece(kind of like an accordion) so the wood would make the bend which in turn made it really weak. Rons buddy used this same technique to make the replacement piece I currently have and it came out great. After I attached the new one, I then filled the ribs with 2 part epoxy. It really strengthens it up and makes it so it wont crack again. If you have one that isn't cracked I'd recommend doing this before it eventually happens. Im sure you could use something besides epoxy but its what I like to use.[quoted image][quoted image]

    Nice. Makes sense

    #313 3 months ago

    Made some good progress on some of the cosmetic stuff during the holiday weekend. 2 back box covers, both back box pieces and the pin hood are all painted (minus stencils).

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    #314 3 months ago

    Lookin' great

    #315 3 months ago

    I feel sorry for your shuffle,,,

    Shaping up to be an awesome vintage game room!

    #316 3 months ago

    I knew a guy that had one just like that.

    #317 3 months ago
    Quoted from RonSS:

    I feel sorry for your shuffle,,,
    Shaping up to be an awesome vintage game room!

    Lol, my poor shuffle is my workbench for now. If I could actually finish my basement I could move it to my restoration room in the basement. This thing is so big it has to stay in the living room until the basement is finished.

    #318 3 months ago

    Not a ton of progress, just a lot of sanding.

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    #319 3 months ago
    Quoted from Jaymach1:

    Not a ton of progress, just a lot of sanding.[quoted image][quoted image]

    Been following Ron's journey on this machine and now yours. Its looking great keep up the good work I'm really looking forward to seeing a video posted of it fully working and done.

    #320 3 months ago
    Quoted from PinDeLaPin:

    Been following Ron's journey on this machine and now yours. Its looking great keep up the good work I'm really looking forward to seeing a video posted of it fully working and done.

    Thanks. Hopefully I'll have it up and running pretty soon. My dad's not doing well so I've been limited with time to work on the game this week. Lots of hospital visits lately. I'll get back on it soon

    #321 3 months ago
    Quoted from Jaymach1:

    Lots of hospital visits lately.

    I wish the Very Best for your Dad..

    #322 3 months ago

    Sorry to hear this Jason. Hoping things work themselves out for you and your dad.

    #323 89 days ago

    Hope all is well with your dad i've walked that road with my own dad and it's no fun.

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    #324 81 days ago

    I got some work done this weekend on the game. The cabinet Is coming together pretty nice. Just need to re stencil the graphics. I think I'm going to take some artistic liberties on the cabinet artwork. Nothing big, just thinking of painting the pins an off white instead of orange and the bowling ball on the side black. Also sanded down the oak and re stained and poly'd it. I used minwax fruitwood for the stain. It's nearly identical to the original stain.

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    #325 80 days ago

    Did you get a chance to try the pin deck lights?

    #326 80 days ago
    Quoted from RonSS:

    Did you get a chance to try the pin deck lights?

    Not yet. I'm out of town till Sunday. So hopefully next week. Ill fire it up, make a short list and bang out the remaining issues. That's probably the first thing I'll look at. Its got to be something simple (I hope). Luckily the guy before me did all of the hard stuff.

    #327 80 days ago

    You never know, he might have made things worse!

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    #328 65 days ago

    Anything new to report?

    #329 61 days ago
    Quoted from PinDeLaPin:

    Anything new to report?

    Sorry guys, I'm finally back on it this week. Unfortunately my dad passed away a few weeks ago so my time to work on my games had been very limited.

    I reassembled all 4 pieces last night and trouble shot some lighting issues. Here's a half ass Pic of it lit up. I'll take some better pics later and post them tonight. It's really coming together nice imo.

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    #330 61 days ago

    Quick question. When the ball passes under the pins and through to the back, is it supposed to hit the backboard of the cabinet? It seems like it should. My question is, is there supposed to be some kind of cushion (like a rubber mat) attache'd the the backboard?

    #331 61 days ago

    From the TOP vid I watched, it seemed as though this model does not have cushioning on the back panel.

    #332 61 days ago
    Quoted from RonSS:

    From the TOP vid I watched, it seemed as though this model does not have cushioning on the back panel.

    OK, thanks Ron

    #333 61 days ago

    Although the ball doesn't usually make it to the door, the ball lift door is suppose to have a padded cushion. If it's the original
    door, you should be able to see the black streaking outline..
    But it's a folded rubber with a protected canvas in front of it that the ball first (and usually only) makes contact with..

    #334 61 days ago

    Unfortunately I did not have the original door to pass on.

    Jason, this bowler is looking all "twinkly" with the lights working. Nice job!

    #335 61 days ago
    Quoted from Mopar:Although the ball doesn't usually make it to the door, the ball lift door is suppose to have a padded cushion. If it's the original
    door, you should be able to see the black streaking outline..
    But it's a folded rubber with a protected canvas in front of it that the ball first (and usually only) makes contact with..

    This is what I currently have. It looks like everything is there. The door is new, courtesy of Ron. I see how it should hit the cushion piece after it goes through. Guess I'm going to have to start it up and try it.

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    #336 61 days ago
    Quoted from Jaymach1:

    This is what I currently have.

    I guess the padding on the door isn't a must, but whenever I restore a small ball bowler, I
    replace the door's padding. I make sure to contact cement rubber/padding that doesn't leave
    scuff marks on the balls.

    #337 61 days ago
    Quoted from Mopar:

    I guess the padding on the door isn't a must, but whenever I restore a small ball bowler, I
    replace the door's padding. I make sure to contact cement rubber/padding that doesn't leave
    scuff marks on the balls.

    I have some rubber padding, I'm definitely doing that.

    #338 61 days ago

    I've got some thin padding if yours ends up being too thick.

    #339 61 days ago
    Quoted from RonSS:

    I've got some thin padding if yours ends up being too thick.

    Good idea. Too thick can sometimes hold up the balls. I'd say no more than a 1/4" thick..

    #340 61 days ago

    Going to have to pull the ball lift motor apart I guess. It ran fine for a while, then it got slower and slower till it stopped moving. I let it cool down for a while, started it again and it worked for a minute or two before it did the same thing. I oiled it and let it cool again and no change. The belt isn't jamming or putting an unnecessary load on it. Kinda strange.

    #341 61 days ago
    Quoted from RonSS:

    I've got some thin padding if yours ends up being too thick.

    Thanks Ron, I appreciate it

    #342 61 days ago
    Quoted from Jaymach1:

    Going to have to pull the ball lift motor apart I guess. It ran fine for a while, then it got slower and slower till it stopped moving. I let it cool down for a while, started it again and it worked for a minute or two before it did the same thing. I oiled it and let it cool again and no change. The belt isn't jamming or putting an unnecessary load on it. Kinda strange.

    Ugh, that sucks. Sorry man.

    I know I took it apart to clean it. Wasn't a hard job, so maybe just needs some more lube/oil? Have you put any oil in the snouts? I didn't put many drops to start with.

    #343 60 days ago
    Quoted from RonSS:

    Ugh, that sucks. Sorry man.
    I know I took it apart to clean it. Wasn't a hard job, so maybe just needs some more lube/oil? Have you put any oil in the snouts? I didn't put many drops to start with.

    Yes, I dropped some oil in the fill snouts. No change. I'll try to look at it tonight. I had it playing great for a few games till this.

    #344 60 days ago

    Here's a quick vid before the ball lift motor started seizing up on me.

    #345 60 days ago

    WOW, that looks great, I have just recently purchased one of these here in Australia but still need to drive 10 hours to pick it up, I am very excited about it now after coming across this thread and reading all the pages tonight, wasn't aware that the lane could be separated into two sections, is it very hard to separate the lane into two sections and what is involved. when joined back together does the lane line up correctly, the one that I have purchase is 14 foot, I haven't seen it in person yet but I believe it will need a lot of work by looking at the photos, it is covered in dust so maybe not as bad as it looks.

    cheers
    Trevor
    Brisbane
    Australia

    #346 60 days ago

    Just a couple of photos.

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    #347 60 days ago
    Quoted from MANTO1975:

    WOW, that looks great, I have just recently purchased one of these here in Australia but still need to drive 10 hours to pick it up, I am very excited about it now after coming across this thread and reading all the pages tonight, wasn't aware that the lane could be separated into two sections, is it very hard to separate the lane into two sections and what is involved. when joined back together does the lane line up correctly, the one that I have purchase is 14 foot, I haven't seen it in person yet but I believe it will need a lot of work by looking at the photos, it is covered in dust so maybe not as bad as it looks.
    cheers
    Trevor
    Brisbane
    Australia

    Separation is a piece of cake. 2 bolts and one Jones plug. The back box and ball lift box also come off.

    Congrats!

    #348 60 days ago

    Congrats on your purchase. In seeing your photo I'm not 100% sure that the lane does separate (I hope it does for easier moving). From the photos that really doesn't look all that bad.

    There is also a FB group for bowlers, shuffles, & skeeball machines.
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1829056463775012/

    #349 60 days ago

    That looks to be an 11 footer. I don't believe it separates. The 11 footers had the red trim on the alley. The 16 footers had brown trim.

    #350 60 days ago

    Correct, the 11 footers are solid, the 14 footers separate. At least Jay's does.

    Although, I don't see a separation crack on yours.

    Mine broke down into 8ft/6ft if I recall. The 8 ft being Pinside.

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