The purpose of this club is to establish a group of members interested in purchasing and sharing information on Virtual Pinball, specifically the Ultra VP pin available from Rec Room World.
https://www.recroomworld.com/virtualpinballmachines.html
I purchased this machine last week and very enthused to share any information I can with all of you who have a question. I am just a pinball owner for many years who has made the leap to Virtual Pinball. I can post pictures and answer questions from an owner perspective of this specific game but detail software/download stuff I am not as savvy about and hope to meet with others who are.
Overview : The Ultra VP is a commercially available Virtual Pinball machine and not a homebrew system. For anyone interested in not building their own system and downloading games from sites this is for you!
The specs are in the link above, this thing has everything, it is built like a tank and the color strips are even inset into the cabinet so they can't be seen from the sides. So far it comes with 348 games or so but this will all change in a few weeks with the big update to POP,4k, and an additional 300 games. I plan to share more when that is available but for now it has not disappointed me with what it presently offers.

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There is a magnasave on games using the second button. I cant remember exactly how the feedback was but was convincing. This game is 4K and loaded with every feature.
Yes, no interest in VP on pinside because once people except it the value and whole market of pins will crash. They wont admit it is a far better investment. I am a traditionalist and have both, its all coming to an end shortly.
Animated backglass and movie clips, slugfest baseball games, online competitive play coming soon, jukebox feature! You don't have to make your own or do any work. It's game over.

With the new 1.0 that came out last week a couple times the pup display went black. It takes less than a minute to reset it, its the first version so to be expected. Its all set to go when you buy it,I'm pc illiterate. I believe any further updates will be done for you by the bluetooth dongle. Not confirmed but I would imagine online competition will eventually be next.

Picture of WhiteWater. Some of these games are so nice in 4K and cleaned up I prefer them over the original which have dull ramps. Waiting on my digital topper to arrive,I should have gotten it originally. The real waterfall video above will be stunning.

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Yeah, after playing this for months I will say this about owning a VP to clarify anyone wanting to buy one.
A. This will not replace your absolutely favorite games or top 5. I have Metallica,Oktoberfest, Gorgar, and Dr.Dude. I love these games and want to feel the real thing.
B. This machine will replace all the games you used to own and wish you could still play.
C. If you enjoy pinball expos wondering around playing all the games you can in a weekend.
D. The games you like a lot but would never buy because of money or space. Also games that are just cool but not worthy of owning.
E. If you have a family and kids who you want to get into pinball or enjoy time together. The kids games like Minions and Harry Potter are more suited for them and easier than real pinball.
F. Themes you wish they made pinball for but they never will. For me its Masters of the Universe and Miami Vice.
G. I would argue the Halloween and Stranger Things is better than the games that have been produced. Video pup pack assets, authentic call outs and music without the limitations of licensing.
I could go on about the sports and music themed pinball games but you get the picture.
Taking all these things in to account along with no mantainance it is a way better deal than a new Stern after another price hike. Manufactures are pricing themselves out of the market as well as older used games. VP is the new alternative and the younger audiance who grew up using ipads can latch on to. 20 years ago antiques were a good investment, now you can't give them away unless its to an older person.
Trust me, everyone will own a VP along with their favorite pins in 5-8 years.

I know there is a facebook Ultra VP fan page where owners talk, I heard about it but I'm not on facebook. I have not heard of anyone complaining about there game or myself. Customer service is incredible. Just call Rolznd he will be happy to talk with you or answer any questions. I called him the day before Thanksgiving and he answered my question. Better than getting through to Stern. I heard he is getting swamped with orders and it may be a long time to get a game after ordering?
This game is my first go to when I go to the basement, even after many months of playing. Mainly because I enjoy perusing the marketplace ads and finding rare expensive games for sale. Like yesterday I thought I would try Space Rider made by Geiger, which is for sale. I would never own it but had a lot of fun playing it and the unique rules. Very awesome game and probably never find one in the wild to play.
Then there is Slugfest, sometimes I'm in the mood for baseball, I would never spend the money to buy one but it scratches the itch. Also if I have friends over for a soccer match or football game there are dozens of pins to choose from and you can even select your own team version.
My clisest friend comes over and doesn't like playing pinball but we play darts and shoot pool. The video jukebox is the best. It randomly plays some great hits and brings back memories of classic videos. We stayed up later than usual because of the music. I discovered an 80s band called Over Kill and found out they are touring nearby soon!
I could careless about resell value,I'm never getting rid of it even if the graphics etc stay the same. Not sure how it would improve in the future unless they have 3D which is doubtful.
If you like going to pinball shows you will love it, like having one in your basement. If you are thinking of buying a pin it is a great tool to try before buying. I want a Ghost Busters now but the VP version is so good I figure why bother. Especially with the insane prices right now.

Yeah, hate to say it but I dont even turn on my regular machines much anymore and just play virtual. Going through the pinball hall up the street isnt what it used to be either, I just go there for new releases now and play the rest at home. Whats the point?
It has saved me in thousands of dollars I would have spent buying other games. Batman 66, ACDC, and Ghostbusters are so incredibly real enough I don't see spending the money buying.

I hope you enjoy the WOZ you got instead. $9300 for a VP is cheap when you think of the 1000 games it does, jukebox, and flipperless games. What more you want? I don't see what technology they will have in 3-5 years that would improve things and not have developers redo all the games for it? Just don't get hung up on this 60hz vs 120hz. Do the research. Its not that big of a deal, especially if you never seen the 120hz side by side. Hope you get a VP someday, they are going up in price and wait time just like pinball.

I totally agree with your reasoning of why you purchased it over the Australian company. Same here. Stinks you had some hickups. I've been fine so far with no problems. Knock on wood. Just sometimes a game may not load or pup pack needs to be restarted but not a big deal to restart. How about that Whitewater on it though? It plays and looks so nice I no longer want to buy one. It's classic.

Sometimes you just need a break from pinball.

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You know I have never tried VR with a headset, mostly for the reasons you mentioned. For me the price to pay for an Ultra VP even though it will loose money overtime like any tech, It pays off in joy. Not to mention having all these games to play makes me more knowledgable about pinball. It's like a person with a smartphone compared to someone with a land line. My friends scratch their head when I talk about rare games or how 80's Gottliebe's rock because of the sounds and risk taking designs.
Anyway if you are in Cincinnati you are welcome to try before you buy. If Columbus Oh is on the way somewhere you can save $300+ on shipping. Just ask Roland. Although the way gas prices are now that would be a deal.

Just when I thought they couldn't make it better this happens. I would love to see the difference. They do take customer feedback seriously. I wish I had gotten the video topper so if you can afford it get it. They didn't have anything to play on it when I got mine. Show us the side art when you get it. I like how there are so many options.

Creature from Black Lagoon BW version like munsters. And a classic video from the jukebox.

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The artwork I went with was collage. Mostly because if I was to ever put it on location up the street at the local bar or country club it would draw curiosity. After all it does have a functioning coin mech and door. Maybe later on in life it will be on location to make a few extra $?
Most games have feedback, some don't but I believe its because of the designer? If I can figure out how to change the ability I will let you know.
First game to check out. CarToons. This is why there is VR pinball. A rusty ball and peeled playfield from a junkyard. Hit the cockroach scrambling under the the slings for a second score. The ball makes a rolling sound across the wood playfield I swear it was real. This is why Virtual rocks and no one could make this game in reality. The possibilities are endless.

I've heard of folks who have a VP cab complain of lag but never played one? I will say a few games feel "spongey" on the flippers but I adapt just like every game is different.
I have the artwork on the first post in this thread. They offered a discount on this one and some others coming off a truck or something. Not sure if they still do it but it saved me $100 or so.

Used/refurbished machines for sale! Could be an option if they are too expensive for you. Most likely they are my game with earlier specs or were used as demos? I don't know.
https://www.recroomworld.com/usedultravp.html

I don't know about security measures for roms but there are many lcd games that are nearly exact like batman 66 and TNA to name a few. Scott Danessi seems willing to share his games with the community. Legends of Valhalla apparently was developed as a VP originally so I can see many of these designers releasing developed games to the community.

There is a game for every occasion.
"Gonna take you riden to the danger zone."
The premier!

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Hopefully we will eventually have answers to these questions. I'm sure I can figure it out after a little research but I'm too busy learning cgi and 3d printing. Too many stakes in the fire. I have had a look at the sd drive and nothing made much sense to me. I created a backup just in case.

"The need for speed!" It's fantastic is all I'm going to say. I am pretty critical and don't fan wagon. I don't see how someone would not like this movie. They somehow pulled it off really really well.

Great info! Thats about everything. I am happy with the tables it came with and havn't seen much new ones that I like.
The only problem I have is a couple tables will not start or take credits for some reason randomly? Not always but frequently. Dr. Dude and Elvira party monsters. Is there a fix for this?

Home builders love to tell you it can be made cheaper yourself. What they won't tell you or show you theirs. Larger dmd screens, lights that sync, enough solonoids, counter sunk monitor playfield, access to a volume adjuster etc. I have yet to see one that compares to the Ultra VP with features. For whatever reason the 2 pin shiws I have gone to where someone brought there homebuilt, they never got to work because of some update thing spinning on the screen? It didn't give people confidence in pursuing Virtual pinball at the shows.

Hey around July when you all get yours we can try a league thing. One person picks a game and the best score in 2 hours wins? Hopefully we will be able to do this online by next year?

Solenoids would be a nice feature but I can see them getting toasted as much play I have on the machine. The feel of the ball on the flipper is the only thing lacking but you get used to it and doesn't change the game play.
They seem to be very thurough, thats why you only get updates every 5 months or so. If its anything like my 5.0 was, once they are ready they flow out to everyone in a hurry. Fingers crossed you don't wait much longer.
Yes the Harry Potter should be made into a real game.

Once you get yours, your worries of investment will be over. You hit the nail on the head. I would argue that it is the true pinball enthusiest who take the VP plunge as we have. If you lost money on buying real pins this hobby and this website would be less than half. It is the true players who seek out to play all the tables and enjoy the game.

Good question, there isn't much of anything out there. I'm a cgi artist and would like to design my own in the future as well. All I have found is this starter document by Scottywic and Orbital pinball. They seem to be the only ones making an effort. Masterclass of this would be awesome! I got this info from the credit screen on Stranger Things. https://docs.orbitalpin.com/table-planner

You know what was cool is that they throw in the gold wire flipper buttons with the leaf switches. Interested in what people think of that vs leaf. I would think the leaf is realistic with a slight delay like in real life rather than arcade instant feel.

In case you are wondering how this pin looks in a line up next to originals you can't tell the difference. Camera doesn't quite do it justice. 4k and and you get the color DMD display in all the games!

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If you find out how to change to 5 ball let us know. There are 2 games I would like to do that to. Although with new updates to the tables coming I should probably wait. A couple of the older tables should be 5 not 3.

Congrats, my favorite graphics too. Car-toons is a fun one to start with, it really shows off how virtual can do things a regular pin can't.

Thanks, I think Grand Prix and a couple older games were set to 3 ball. I'll have to check. They are 5 ball at a house in league and want to match that.

Any of you peasants up to challenging me for king? Visual pinball x [mod) version.

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Do you have a link? Also why are all the pages set to private that no one can see if you DC ont have an account? Who cares? Thanks

For people who claim its easy to make your own VP pin have a look at that picture and tell me anyone can do this? Not happinin unless its a very basic game. This thing looks like a Porsche turbo charged engine. Beautiful under the hood.

I just discovered this table tonight. It is so sweet. A soundtrack mix between Natural Born Killers and Miami Vice. Loved every minute.

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I may have posted this before but look at the detail on this table! The reflection on the walls was even captured. I can't believe they bothered with rendering the wires. I dig the shine of the screws. Eventually most of the games will be as good as Adams Family.

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Hope you heal while playing pinball. I am of the age of collecting skateboards and not riding them. I looked up Blood Machine, I don't have that,I'll have to update. Looks really cool like Xenon 2.0.

What's a game you notice this in?

There are some tables I feel that are like that but a few. They just need more time worked in like the old EMs. The top 50 games are pretty solid. I don't play any of the games I already own on it well because I have the real thing, but the ones I've sold and miss I play a lot of. It took me a month to warm up to the feel of looking at a screen. The biggest hurdle was the playfield size difference but I don't even notice anymore.

Agree, but after playing Radical I sort of want one for my next pin, I just doubt it will play as good as the virtual with everything going on. There is that to consider. I've only played one Twilight Zone that plays as it should in my lifetime. UVP the flippers are consistant.

A lot of this may be the way the game was programed or physical engine? I will have to see about wide body or not. Most games are fine but I came across a couple I couldn't make the shot. You just have to wait it out and hope it is updated later on. The main games have been pretty well gone through and cleaned up.

Mike, Thanks. The backbox wasn't that hard to remove, just take your time and label things if need be.
I also had an extra keyboard and mouse laying around I have connected to the pin. I was able to keep them just inside the coin door all tighty so its right there if I have to restart pinup popper.

I was like that for a few months than all of a sudden I couldnt tell the difference. I liked Freddy Nightmare Elm Street and just got the real thing. I wasn't dissapointed, plays just like the virtual.

The reason I left the Virtual pin thread was because you would always downvote anytime anyone mentioned the Ultra VP. Now you bring it over to here comparing $400 goggles to a 10k mechanical machine. There is no comparison. Please go away.

I'm late to the game,putting my request in now. I can't believe there were imprivements to some games like Cactus Canyon and Ghost Busters. Those were already the best tables I would put on to show people the realism. Must be pretty special.

Cyber Monday sale. $500 off today on a new machine!
https://www.recroomworld.com/index.html

I'm trying to figure out where I'm going to find 600gb to download? Yikes.

Question for people with toppers?
I didn't get one with mine but heard they are around $260? Maybe its inflation or shipping but its now $400!
What do you think? Is it worth $400? I could care less about the police lights but the extra screen looked pretty cool. Would you pay that for it?

Thanks Mike, maybe I will hold off.
Not sure why you have a problem,I opened a ticket and then got a number to talk to Tony. Downloading the update tomorrow.

It took me 2 weeks if that. At first I noticed it and then after a few weeks it went away. I can't tell a difference now switching back and forth between real pinball and virtual. Also some people and myself when first playing thought the flippers can feel a little spongy? That went away after about 20 games. Your first 20 games there is a slight acclimation till you get used to how it plays.

I just updated to 2.5 yesterday. Incredibly easy with videos to guide you the whole way through it. I don't use PC's so it is dumbed down for people like me to find certain option windows. The worst part is waiting 4 days or more for it to download onto my ssd.
I finally got a chance to play Blood Machines, as people have said its very cool!

I love the 3d glasses use. Creature ftom the black lagoon it helps to differentiate the layered ramps. That game needs it. Also classic Tron I feel like I'm in the movie!

They are the old school red/blue galsses. On some games the color shift isn't too bad like Tron. The tinted glasses that are out now won't work. You need a special tv screen for them to work. I have an inkling this will be the next thing they come out with. The color stays the same with the new ones.
My Dad and Brother were over last night and had a ball playing the 3D.

If there is one game I am willing to tackle updating for it is this one. I am timid because I don't know much about PC's. I will have to set aside a day for this.

I don't know why but if plugging it into the source shortens it that much time,I'll do that next time. Mine took 3+ days to download. Enjoy the adventure, it's great figuring out how this stuff works.

I think I got your drive! I was suppose to receive my topper and got a drive? There must have been a mix up during the busy holidays. They actually called me last night to correct the situation! It took a month or 2 to get the ball rolling again but it sounds like there was a death in the family in europe which probably made things disorganized the past few months. Its a small company, not like a JJP. Atleast not yet.

Oh ok,I didn't see that on his stement. I'm trying to get cought up.

Just when you thought this game couldn't get better, it now gives you a BlowJob. Seriously, right between the legs! I can't wait to experience this.

I'm taking baby steps with software, it still looks like a lot to know and I hate PC's. I spent a month trying to figure out our karaoke and audio problem.
The first thing to do is replace the atrocious backglass to Hollywood Heat. I used to own it, mostly for the backglass and Miami Vice vibe. The person who did the cartoon thing needs help. They spent all this time coming up with a super realistic game and then uses that backglass?
Another thing is if you do all this work and update every year with the new release don't you have to do it all over again?

I'm interested in a game night each week here at well. I suggested it as well but I'm not on fb either.
It would be fun to somehow have a number picked randomly and we play that from a list? No matter how dumb it is to force me to play it.
I do think eventually this game will have an online play option we can all do live.

My wife doesn't play pinball but she saw this table and I couldn't get her off it. One of the few times we played together and had fun, because the competitivness was not there.

Gilligans island is on my favorite list on the Ultra, they did a good job with that one. I can never get into lethal weapon for some reason, everyone loves it and it is a favorite in league. I must be missing something? I watched the first movie and that didnt help?

I agree with everything you said. Buying an expensive piece of technology is very risky and was scared to pull the trigger. I am glad as everyone else is and why I started this thread. I love mine so much I plan on selling it this summer to have the latest and greatest final masterpiece. Even though they aren't that big of a difference from what I have. I've always wanted a Whirlwind so the fan makes it for me.

Happy July 4th weekend. One thing I love is all the theme games of America from the 70s. First up is Liberty Bell! Best of 5 games who can beat my high score today?
363160.

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Man tough crowd. Let's try day 2 of USA?
Best out of 5 games, next up. Six million dollar man pinup pop edition. "Gentleman we can rebuild him, we have the technology!"
High score 251,610.
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Spirit of 76! 78850 can you beat in 5 games?

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Happy 4th! 96770 on freedom best of 5!

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My best on independence day was 1,418,253,120

How does the VR work on the Ultra VP? Is it just plug and play? I may be interested in getting some to give it a try? I guess they have to be paired via bluetooth?

Yes it will be. I think they will release the final version by then. After that it will be all software. I just wish we had an online community to play each other and virtual would be the easiest to implement. After that it will take over regular pinball.

I have no idea, maybe some lights around the edge, maybe 5k screen, better speakers? If has an online playability that would be huge. Make it so it can download updates on its own, easier for user to make adjustments to ball counts etc. These are things that are more software than physical though.

I'm jealous of anyone who has the time to tinker and add games. I have too many hobbies already. I just wait for the updates every year. Can't wait for the newest usually in February!

I liked this game as well. Needs a bit more polish. I didn't know about the flippers?

The release of the game updates should be any day now. I think it is always February? I would love that Phill Collins game.