Here's a tough one, the ultimate Bally/Williams VS Stern showdown.
Medieval Madness, Monster Bash, and Attack From Mars, VS
AC/DC premium, Avengers LE, and Steve Ritchie Star Trek (assuming it gets built).
The rules:
1. Assume all machines have equal value and that will not change. This question is for players, not speculators.
2. You have to keep either set of three games for three years.
Which three games would you choose?
Quoted from TheLaw:Ummm....B/W by a mile. You want me to rate 3 machines against 2? Don't quite get the point of this.
Use your imagination, I said assuming Star Trek gets built. I'm thinking Steve Ritchie home run.
Quoted from Pinballmike217:Steve Ritchie Star Trek (assuming it gets built)
Quoted from Pinballmike217:This question is for players, not speculators.
That's funny! Isn't Ritchie Star Trek NOTHING but speculation at this point?
Well using my imagination makes it much easier.
I love the humor they used to have in the older machines, and would have made it a B/W sweep... but in my imagination Star Trek came out in a very limited run of 1 ultra super duper limited edition and it was delivered and tuned by the man himself at my house when I won it in a raffle.
Quoted from Eskaybee:ACDC and AVLE are awesome together in a lineup. But the two of them can't take down 3 powerhouse B/W games. Replace Star Trek with a proven stern like TRON LE, now we have ourselves a competition. And I would gladly take those 3 sterns over the B/W powerhouse trio in a three year period.
Quoted from Eskaybee:ACDC and AVLE are awesome together in a lineup. But the two of them can't take down 3 powerhouse B/W games. Replace Star Trek with a proven stern like TRON LE, now we have ourselves a competition. And I would gladly take those 3 sterns over the B/W powerhouse trio in a three year period.
AC/DC and Avengers are awesome together. I was thinking if I had a NIB Star Trek next to them to open up, that it really couldn't get any better than that. I'm a Trek fan and loved the new movie so I'm biased on the title. The Bally/Williams titles have been played to death so I'm having way more fun with the new stuff.
Quoted from kaston1573:Bally's/Williams all the way. Didn't even have to think twice about it.
Pretty much what he said, tho MM & AFM are so similar, if those were my only 3 pins I dunno if I'd keep that line up for 3 years, swap one of em out for a different B/W (Totan, Tom, CV, TAF, IJ etc...) then hell yeah.
Quoted from TheLaw:Ummm....B/W by a mile. You want me to rate 3 machines against 2? Don't quite get the point of this.
He also says "this is not for speculators", but that's exactly what he's asking us to do. 
Quoted from Pinballmike217:Here's a tough one, the ultimate Bally/Williams VS Stern showdown.
Medieval Madness, Monster Bash, and Attack from Mars, VS
AC/DC premium, Avengers LE, and Steve Ritchie Star Trek (assuming it gets built).
The rules:
1. Assume all machines have equal value and that will not change. This question is for players, not speculators.
2. You have to keep either set of three games for three years.
Which three games would you choose?
this has to be the dumbest post i've seen on here in awhile. Not for speculators...but mentions a game that doesn't even have pictures of the playfield on it. And you didn't even list B/W good titles, or sterns for that matter. Out of that group of 6, the only one worth a shit is AC/DC.
Quoted from CaptainNeo:this has to be the dumbest post i've seen on here in awhile. Not for :speculators...but mentions a game that doesn't even have pictures of the playfield on it. And you didn't even list B/W good titles, or sterns for that matter. Out of that group of 6, the only one worth a shit is AC/DC.
CV is a Fan Layout. 
Quoted from RobT:He also says "this is not for speculators", but that's exactly what he's asking us to do.
C'mon, stick to the spirit, not the letter. Don't speculate on price or appreciation, just playability. Would you rather keep kicking it old school, or do you prefer new?
Quoted from Pinballmike217:C'mon, stick to the spirit, not the letter. Don't speculate on price or appreciation, just playability. Would you rather keep kicking it old school, or do you prefer new?
?WTF? I hope this is a joke. You should have made an imaginary pinball poll and ranked them as far as playability, complexity and fun factor. I'll start.
Everyone rate which one of these Pinball machines play the best.
The Bigfoot experience
Rock'em Sock'em Pinball
Gremlins
Easter bunny chocolate parade
Jenna Jameson Fashion extreme pinball experience
Discuss!
Quoted from CaptainNeo:?WTF? I hope this is a joke. You should have made an imaginary pinball poll and ranked them as far as playability, complexity and fun factor. I'll start.
Everyone rate which one of these Pinball machines play the best.
The Bigfoot experience
Rock'em Sock'em Pinball
Gremlins
Easter bunny chocolate parade
Jenna Jameson Fashion extreme pinball experience
Discuss!
Do we have our shorts in a knot tonight Neo? If you would like to start your own Easter Bunny thread go ahead.
If you would like to express a preference for classic Bally/Williams games or newer Sterns then go ahead and dazzle us.
I do recall you bashing MM for years before you cashed in on yours, so maybe this isn't the thread for you after all.
Quoted from Pinballmike217:Would you rather keep kicking it old school, or do you prefer new?
If you were to look at my current collection and history, I think you would have a very difficult time answering that question.
I know I couldn't answer it. I don't really have a general preference for either. I love having a combination of each.
yup I cashed in. Had it for sale for $5500. And was happy to get rid of it then. Too much money tied up in very little game.
The point is, your asking about playablity about fictional games. THen ask for no speculating. That's like me asking you how the 2017 Chevy Impala drives and how it compares to a 1969 Superbird.
Not that any game you even mentioned would be in the superbird class. Comparison should be more like a Prius, Gremlin and Pacer.
No one wants to compare proven great games against a game not seen yet.
Obviously the other two sterns mentioned are solid games. But star trek Is 100% speculation at this time.
This is a bogus thread asking for make believe. No panties in bunch here at all. Just explaining why you are getting flamed.
Wait a couple months and This would be a great thread title. IMHO
Quoted from CaptainNeo:yup I cashed in. Had it for sale for $5500. And was happy to get rid of it then. Too much money tied up in very little game.
The point is, your asking about playablity about fictional games. THen ask for no speculating. That's like me asking you how the 2017 Chevy Impala drives and how it compares to a 1969 Superbird.
Reread my post. I said no speculation on price only, so money wouldn't be a factor in the decision. If that part was unclear then that was my bad.
Including a future release isn't really a stretch either. People sell machines all the time to fund new purchases. There's a lot to be said for taking a new pin out of the box.
Once again, if you prefer to express a preference for old school machines, or if you enjoy new titles more then feel free to say so. If not, then there's nothing here for you.
Quoted from RobT:If you were to look at my current collection and history, I think you would have a very difficult time answering that question.
I know I couldn't answer it. I don't really have a general preference for either. I love having a combination of each.
Excellent. The answer to my question lies in this question: since you have both, which do you spend more time playing?
Quoted from Pinballmike217:Excellent. The answer to my question lies in this question: since you have both, which do you spend more time playing?
As usual...whichever one is the most recent addition to the collection!
Currently that is LOTR. Been playing the hell out of it since I got it in December. Made it to Valinor a couple weeks ago. 
not a fan of avengers, ACDC kills it, Star Trek no idea if it's a real game yet. So i go with the classics by a mile. Also if you get avengers the heck out of there with games it doesn't belong with and put lotr and sm youd have a battle.
Quoted from Magic_Mike:B/W vs Stern???
Seriously?
Imagine that huh? One of them is still actually making machines too. 
Quoted from Pinballmike217:Reread my post. I said no speculation on price only, so money wouldn't be a factor in the decision. If that part was unclear then that was my bad.
Including a future release isn't really a stretch either. People sell machines all the time to fund new purchases. There's a lot to be said for taking a new pin out of the box.
Once again, if you prefer to express a preference for old school machines, or if you enjoy new titles more then feel free to say so. If not, then there's nothing here for you.
This makes absolutely no sense at all. Everything just stated here has nothing to do with anything. I'd categorize this post and this thread into the polywampus folder.
Quoted from jimjim66:Since I own the 3 B/W games mentioned, that would have to be my vote.
Biased? No, because if I wanted the others, not counting Star Trek as it isn't for sale yet, I would sell my 3 pins and buy them. I vote with my wallet.
Nailed it.
I always find it odd when people say that your opinion on a certain pin is "biased" if you own it. Chances are, if you own it (still) it's because you like it! <duh>
sometimes you own it because it was cheap and local. that's the way it was for me with Dr.Who. Hated it at first and didn't expect it to sit around long. After playing it enough to know what the hell the Deleks were saying, It started to grow on me. Now I actually enjoy it.
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