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Ultimate Stern Pinball Fan - hear from the finalists...& voters

By drredness

5 years ago


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    #1 5 years ago

    There is some debate about the Ultimate Stern Pinball Fan contest. Makes sense. Big prize up for grabs at www.ultimatesternpinballfan.com
    Let's get the views of those participating...and even voting. Send me a note here (or on the Facebook group Pinball Profile or message me or @pinballprofile on Twitter), and we'll record YOUR thoughts on the Pinball Profile podcast. We'll put them on a podcast by the end of next week. I will not make any judgement, only offer an audio venue for all the participants and any voters. Contact me by Sunday, Dec. 4 and we'll make arrangements to let YOUR voice be heard. Should be fun!

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    #2 5 years ago

    Since it started it seemed like every other online contest. A popularity contest boiling down to:

    * Who knows the most people and can elicit the most shares
    * Who has the most people willing to vote tens to hundreds of times each and
    * Who does the most efficient begging

    It sounds kind of negative, but that's what it is. Even with threads on pinside asking for votes, and people saying the voted dozens of times.

    Any contest like this needs a judging panel from the company to be done properly. But that takes company time and money so I understand why companies do it the way they do.

    #3 5 years ago

    Thanks for the feedback GotAQuestion. All feedback is wanted. I think it will make for an interesting podcast on PinballProfile. Hope we get some people like yourself that want to be heard. All the best.

    #4 5 years ago

    It truly isn't an ultimate fan contest at all. If that was the case, it would be judged by some sort of panel, not become a popularity contest. Stern's ultimate fan could be a total non social person who just bleeds Stern pinball. The whole who gets the most votes wins has nothing to do with being an ultimate fan.

    #5 5 years ago

    Anybody (even voters like yourselves) are free to join me on my Pinball Profile podcast when we discuss this topic. Interested? Send me a message @pinballprofile on Twitter or a message on the Facebook page for Pinball Podcast. I'll call you and put you on the podcast. Thanks for all feedback.

    #6 5 years ago

    I am one of the 20 selected and I think it's become a bit of a joke "untimatesternpinballscam" is the term coined around here.
    I live outside the USA so the pinball community is a lot smaller, and less people to vote.
    I've been told by tech savvy people that it is pretty easy to scam votes via numerous ways.
    I have a friend who has access to 30'000 IP addresses so would that be fair?
    It has become a contest to who has the most internet friends, prepared to cheat, best sob story and or access to a larger pinball community to sprook their pic.
    I stopped asking friends to vote as I feel like I've been begging or hounding them.
    Should have been decided in-house or draw a name from top 20 out of a hat, get the production staff to vote, anything would have been better imo.
    The contest is for "THE ULTIMATE STERN PINBALL FAN". So as Stern made a huge deal a bout their 30th anniversary (and rightly so as they made it through some tough times), I wanted to incorporate that and wore a 30th anniversary t-shirt and also show some "Stern love" so gave the boys a group hug. Probably not the cleverest or the best pic but at least I can explain the thought that went into mine here, and give the campaign a nudge lol. Good luck whoever wins as there are some great pics!
    Here is my one

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    #7 5 years ago

    I liked the idea when I first read about it. Now that I see "please vote for me" threads and similar posts on my local pinball group, I'm less interested. If the same group that deletes negative comments from Facebook is going to judge this, it's just an ass kissing contest. I do hope someone who truly is a fan wins this and enjoys the game.

    #8 5 years ago
    Quoted from Ball_Shine:

    I am one of the 20 selected and I think it's become a bit of a joke "untimatesternpinballscam" is the term coined around here.
    I live outside the USA so the pinball community is a lot smaller, and less people to vote.
    I've been told by tech savvy people that it is pretty easy to scam votes via numerous ways.
    I have a friend who has access to 30'000 IP addresses so would that be fair?
    It has become a contest to who has the most internet friends, prepared to cheat, best sob story and or access to a larger pinball community to sprook their pic.
    I stopped asking friends to vote as I feel like I've been begging or hounding them.
    Should have been decided in-house or draw a name from top 20 out of a hat, get the production staff to vote, anything would have been better imo.
    The contest is for "THE ULTIMATE STERN PINBALL FAN". So as Stern made a huge deal a bout their 30th anniversary (and rightly so as they made it through some tough times), I wanted to incorporate that and wore a 30th anniversary t-shirt and also show some "Stern love" so gave the boys a group hug. Probably not the cleverest or the best pic but at least I can explain the thought that went into mine here, and give the campaign a nudge lol. Good luck whoever wins as there are some great pics!
    Here is my one

    Why are you bent over? Oh, I forgot it is Stern.

    #9 5 years ago
    Quoted from Ball_Shine:

    I am one of the 20 selected and I think it's become a bit of a joke "untimatesternpinballscam" is the term coined around here.
    I live outside the USA so the pinball community is a lot smaller, and less people to vote.
    I've been told by tech savvy people that it is pretty easy to scam votes via numerous ways.
    I have a friend who has access to 30'000 IP addresses so would that be fair?
    It has become a contest to who has the most internet friends, prepared to cheat, best sob story and or access to a larger pinball community to sprook their pic.
    I stopped asking friends to vote as I feel like I've been begging or hounding them.
    Should have been decided in-house or draw a name from top 20 out of a hat, get the production staff to vote, anything would have been better imo.
    The contest is for "THE ULTIMATE STERN PINBALL FAN". So as Stern made a huge deal a bout their 30th anniversary (and rightly so as they made it through some tough times), I wanted to incorporate that and wore a 30th anniversary t-shirt and also show some "Stern love" so gave the boys a group hug. Probably not the cleverest or the best pic but at least I can explain the thought that went into mine here, and give the campaign a nudge lol. Good luck whoever wins as there are some great pics!
    Here is my one

    Completely agree with you. I am in the contest as well and have also stopped trying to get votes.

    #10 5 years ago

    The Ultimate Stern Fan should have purchased either a Wheel of Fortune, WWF, KISS, or received a Ghostbusters with verified ghosting and chipping issues and still have the machine(s). That means they have been PATIENTLY awaiting code and/or like the games enough despite issues.

    To me that kind of loyalty shows ultimate fandom and deserves a free Pro, not just because you bought several LE's and made a clever picture...

    #11 5 years ago

    I think this one will be the winner.

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    #12 5 years ago

    Heres a tip: want me to vote for for you to win a new, free pinball machine? Take a pic that doesn't show that you already own a bunch.

    #13 5 years ago
    Quoted from paintpins:

    Heres a tip: want me to vote for for you to win a new, free pinball machine? Take a pic that doesn't show that you already own a bunch.

    Great tip.

    The leading vote getters all feature their huge pinball collections.

    There's no logic to this thing, just annoying spam. I have actually been friended on FB by pinball people for sole purpose of procuring votes.

    #14 5 years ago
    Quoted from paintpins:

    Heres a tip: want me to vote for for you to win a new, free pinball machine? Take a pic that doesn't show that you already own a bunch.

    You know what, this is something I hadn't even thought of yet. The "Ultimate Stern Fan" is likely to own a bunch of machines already. By nature of being a superfan the odds are just higher that you'll own a lot of the related stuff. Whether it's band T-Shirts and albums, or in this case games.

    So the logical conclusion to this contest is also one where the "rich get richer" so to speak.

    #15 5 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    Great tip.
    The leading vote getters all feature their huge pinball collections.
    There's no logic to this thing, just annoying spam. I have actually been friended on FB by pinball people for sole purpose of procuring votes.

    I added you on FB just to be annoying. No voting solicits.

    #16 5 years ago
    Quoted from drredness:

    I added you on FB just to be annoying. No voting solicits.

    How'd you get past my Canadian filter?!

    #17 5 years ago

    I would have liked to enter but then I realized you have to already own like 5 to show off to even have a chance. Quite the contest they have going on there. It's the "who gave us the most money" contest.

    #18 5 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    How'd you get past my Canadian filter?!

    I sneakily entered it in Buffalo! So what do you think ABOOT that, eh?

    #19 5 years ago
    Quoted from osudrummer:

    The Ultimate Stern Fan should have purchased either a Wheel of Fortune, WWF, KISS, or received a Ghostbusters with verified ghosting and chipping issues and still have the machine(s). That means they have been PATIENTLY awaiting code and/or like the games enough despite issues.
    To me that kind of loyalty shows ultimate fandom and deserves a free Pro, not just because you bought several LE's and made a clever picture...

    I have a GB with ghosting, purchased TWD when code was rubbish and still have both!

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    #20 5 years ago

    I finally started watching this tonight, the voting counts seem....unnatural. Over 400 votes in 4 hours for one person, more than the other 19 people combined?

    Reminds me of this contest one time where the voting was setup by IP address. So one of my friends just setup a pc that would log onto one of those ip redirect websites, go to the site, and vote again and again, every 5 minutes. It worked pretty well until one of the other contestants did the same thing, and they evidently had an even better process because they were able to add hundreds of votes per second whenever they wanted, lol. So like the top two people had over 10,000 votes and then everyone else had 1000 or less.

    Not saying that's going on here, but it kind of looks like there may be voting abnormalities. Like that March madness voting thing that used to happen, where at the last second any Bally Williams machine that was losing to a Stern would magically get the 30 votes it needed to win in the last hour, lol.

    They should have drawn from a hat or something, at least it would have been fair.

    #21 5 years ago

    I'm in this. Hell I got my tattoo without knowing there was a contest.

    I literally haven't checked where I am in the standings a single time since day one when I found out it was a popularity contest. I thought I had a real shot too since I have a pinball machine on my arm and some very very nice games but not dozens. I won't even keep the game if I win, I was going to sell it for a reasonable discount, donate half proceeds to pin charities and then keep half (which would inevitably be put back into the hobby)

    Jared told me he would try to combat fraud. Let's see if that happens. They really should just get Gary, Gomez, Borg, Ritchie, Lyman, Dwight, etc in a room one day and take the 5-10 mins to figure it out as a panel.

    Me:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/my-metallica-pinball-machine-tattoo

    #22 5 years ago

    This doesn't seem to be a "fair" contest where people are voting for their favorite photos.

    With so much money on the line, I'm not surprised to see some of the rigging, but at the same time this should have been expected and better planned for. It could have been simply to keep the vote counts hidden, and in the end the voting is only a "guideline" and final winner would be selected internally at Stern.

    #23 5 years ago
    Quoted from frolic:

    This doesn't seem to be a "fair" contest where people are voting for their favorite photos.
    With so much money on the line, I'm not surprised to see some of the rigging, but at the same time this should have been expected and better planned for. It could have been simply to keep the vote counts hidden, and in the end the voting is only a "guideline" and final winner would be selected internally at Stern.

    This^

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    #24 4 years ago

    who won?

    #25 4 years ago
    Quoted from Otaku:

    I would have liked to enter but then I realized you have to already own like 5 to show off to even have a chance. Quite the contest they have going on there. It's the "who gave us the most money" contest.

    I agree completely, if you don't have a huge game room full of Stern pinball machines then you haven't given them enough money to qualify for a free one. Total BS!!!

    #26 4 years ago

    To be fair the contest was ultimate Stern fan

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