Actually I picked mine up for that price 6 months ago with shaker, leds, purple powder coated armor, FF speakers and a bunch of other mods. So it looks like prices are going up not down.

Someone took a big loss on that sale. That's not the kind of sale representative of the market.

You should totally sell that to me before the bottom falls out. No need to thank me...you can owe me a favorite

Here is an simple explanation for longer posts.

Pinball like many things, you can not explain or solve a problem in a single sentence.
There is absolutely no value is speaking like Gorgar.
If you could, there would be no problems.
All one sentence answers lead to is more questions, misunderstanding, or conflict.
People learn nothing from the time reading.
What I have found from experience is if I write out a response properly on forums with detail, it gets archived for future reference when searched.
Often times, if a reader looks closely they will see I have a BLUF (bottom line up front).

I post for education, not entertainment.

Otherwise, posts will otherwise become useless white noise.
I am not a conformist.

There is requested brevity.

Your posts are entertaining as hell, the world needs more pinball philosophers with a WPM of 500.

"To hell with brevity, keep on speaking your mind TBK."
-GorillaBiscuits

"I add detail to make my point more clear."

What I have found from experience is if I write out a response properly on forums with detail, it gets archived for future reference when searched.
Often times, if a reader looks closely they will see I have a BLUF (bottom line up front).
I post for education, not entertainment.
Otherwise, posts will otherwise become useless white noise.
I am not a conformist.

"It's easier to find in searches."

There is requested brevity.

Could be shorter. You do tend to talk in one sentence statements.

The TBK Pinside diatribes are pontificating about pinball and not really that informative anymore because he has repeated them so often. They are extremey repeative and really do qualify for the Pinside broken record clause. The repeative historical posts are not helpful anymore because they are so repeative. Like this post.

I did not realize my education attempts were so useless.

Members might decide to read the front page of PinSide and outside of these forums.
If people do a little digging there may be a surprise what they find and how I word articles.
The subjects are quite broad and diverse but is dependent on my time.
Many years ago there was a whole entire community that provided vast amounts of knowledge, the wisdom that new owners take for granted.
Now only a few really want to try.

If members do not want to read, "It's just a fuse."

I read your posts in the voice of HAL from 2001.

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............or, change the caps - use a cap kit - AARRGGGGGG

Mud flaps... OMG, nearly soiled myself laughing. I was using Charlie Brown adult voice... No offence BlackKnight... even the pig-mys found that one funny right there.

I've never found out if TBK's posts are educational because my wee little mind locks up, freezes but luckily my thumb comes to the rescue and quickly swipes up on my phone.

Even more than the length is they're a bit too...how do I say this delicately...Condescending as shit?

I love them personally but yeah...they can be a bit much.

This is like the 8-10 paragraphs in...basically telling people to go do some homework on the very subject they're learning aboot in the thread.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes people are interested in talking to people whether MM is better than AFM. I understand to you this subject is competently irrelevant, but this is a message board; not microfichery.

yes

There are 19 Hobbits currently in the marketplace. Once the new pins are rolling/announced I expect even lower prices, at least for that title.

Is it me or will popularity or and game play eventually take over. AC/DC is going up in value. Everyone wants a WoZ but doesn't want to pay the entry fee. Won't the market eventually determine price? If there are pins no longer being made that everyone wants won't they eventually go up in price? The market sets the price.?!?!?

AC/DC not going up in price....seems to have relinquished title to MET and AS, popularity wise, in music pinworld. WOZ is JJP's landmark game, period. It will always command a premium, and people still buying them.

I have no real data to pull from, but it feels like the hobby is more expensive as a whole, than just 5 years ago....maybe just me...

With older pins doubling, some even tripling in price over that time, I'd say your feeling is spot on.

Wish I'd have rekindled my love of pinball a few years sooner, when TZs were $1500, etc.

I don't think its an issue. Certain titles that have been less popular for whatever reason have come down slightly from NIB prices, while other titles have held value, and some have even come up. As new collectors have joined the limited supply market it seems lower b/c titles have gone up like Baywatch and WWFRR, and then other titles have held or come down a bit like WH20 or Shadow. Having remakes out there of MM and soon AFM also hurt other games with higher values that many feel could be future remakes. I still see some of the brand new stuff listed at NIB or higher prices though as there is an Alien listed on here at $8500 NIB (not physically delivered yet so seems like a bad idea) and then in my home state of Indiana there has been an Aerosmith pro on craigslist for weeks now at $6500 while I was quoted $1500 lower than that on a price from a very reputable distributor that I have bought from before. Bottom line people are going to get the most for their games that they can, and some titles they won't be able to get as much as they'd like partially due to so many new games and partially due to a variety of other factors.

indianapolis.craigslist.org link

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/48961