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TZ: No flashers and no gum ball Genva switch error

By Mickpat

3 years ago


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#1 3 years ago

I recently purchased a TZ a few weeks ago and everything was working really well. While playing a 4th ball was added to the gum ball and had to stop the game. After resetting the game, the game starts, but no ball ejected. I went into the service mode to eject the balls from the gum ball and get genva switch error. I do not hear the gumball motor before entering test mode. Also, none of my flashers are working now.

After doing some searching, someone suggested replacing fuse 111, but that didn't correct the issue. Now I am thinking there is an issue with the driver board. Another post suggested to replace the bridge rectifiers and caps. Maybe it would be to just replace the board with new Rottendog board but new ones are pretty pricey. Given the board is 27 years old, would it be better just to replace, or try and have the board serviced? Thought?
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#4 3 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

Fuse F117 ? ( there isn't one )
Pull and check fuse F116 with a meter. That is your 12 volts secondary. For motors. Geneva switch may have come up in error because it hasn't been used recently, or could need attention.
LTG : )

Sorry, I meant fuse 111. I'll spend sometime testing the other fuses too.

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#6 3 years ago

I replaced the old driver board with a new driver board from https://pinballbasement.com/.

I did notice the old board had the https://kahr.us power reset fix chip installed. Since the board is new, I removed it. Should I just keep it in? The new board has updated 5v circuits so hoping this is no longer an issue.

Any ideas on what to do with the old board?

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#9 3 years ago
Quoted from pincoin:

Did this new board fix your problem?

Yes, the new board works even better. It fixed the issue with flashers and gumball motor not working and I think it also enabled dimming on GI or at least the dim level is better now.

#10 3 years ago
Quoted from fiberdude120:

If you have a good board you do not need that kahr fix so leave it out. Send the old board out for repair so you have an extra if and when you need one.

Good suggestion. Thanks and Happy New Year.

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