Quoted from o-din:
I'm just happy this super strong pinball economy will be able to support all these new machines they are talking about making, along with all the other manufacturers out there.
Who are you and what have you done with O-din?
Quoted from o-din:
If nothing else, this could end up being one big tax write off for deeproot.
Kramer : It's just a write off for them .
Jerry : How is it a write off ?
Kramer : They just write it off .
Jerry : Write it off what ?
Kramer : Jerry all these big companies they write off everything
Jerry : You don't even know what a write off is .
Kramer : Do you ?
Jerry : No . I don't .
Kramer : But they do and they are the ones writing it off .
Article says cabinet looks conventional, but the head does not.
Some type of Pin2k-ish setup?
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:
More full time heads than all the other manufacturers combined? That seems overstated. Either that or potentially pushing up against Brooks' Law.
Is it possible that many Stern employees are not direct, full time employees? Maybe through a third party service?
Otherwise that statement is nuts.
Can't wait to see the arguing really blow up in this thread once something actually happens.
Quoted from LTG:
I hope not.
I hope Deeproot gets their game or games out, and I hope it's all we hope for.
That would be great for pinball, great for Pinside.
LTG : )
I hope they make lots of great games.
But if they do, there will still be arguing here.
Probably better natured arguing than if disaster befalls, but still arguing.
Gotta admit, I thought you guys would never get refunded.
I was wrong, and very happy to see that I was.
Great news for those involved!
Hope DR keeps moving in a positive direction.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:
Oh I wouldn't worry about that.
Pinsiders are known for keeping their expectations in check and being completely resistant to overwrought disappointment.
I'm probably the most sarcastic person I know, coming from a long line of sarcastic folk. But Damn!, that's some real sarcasm there.
Quoted from flynnibus:
Look at the filing and see who is paying for Zidware's chapter 7... wait for it... it's deeproot (paying the attorney).
Also note that it looks like at least one law firm didn't get paid for previous work.
Venis and Copp, LLP shows up as a creditor for $6,500.00.
Sad to see lots of good folks on that list.
Quoted from Richthofen:
The numbers don't add up to me
Have been having similar thoughts for a while.
You can only sell as many pinball machines as folks want to buy, no matter who you are.
The market is limited.
The strategy of introducing multiple titles at the same time also seems to be a sure way to sell fewer of each, making it more difficult to cover the substantial development cost of each title.
Quoted from razorsedge:
Pretty funny Lol
The only people whom seem to be relentlesly whinging about how DR is conducting its startup, looks like either people with a history of being fu@#€d by preorder companies (which has nothing to do with DR, in fact they helped, so why hate?), or some people whom for whatever reason took it personally when RM called out the value standard from pinball makers as being crap. Which was in fact a perfectly justified and reasonable statement. Stating the obvious, except to those with the blinkers on. For brickheads it's a given I guess
Just a bunch of the same regulars, grinding their axes and pitchforks. Grumpy people bitching about their random, barely relevant, stuff in the new pinball threads. Pinside... meh.
Luckily I'm usually happy enough to ignore the mindless bs and negativity of "the grumpies". The fantastic elements of Pinside in general is more than fun enough to overpower having to look through their rubbish.
I would just like to say that pointing out that the simple economics make no sense is not "bitching, whinging, axe grinding, or hating."
It's saying that something doesn't add up.
There seems to be too much money going in to ever come back out through sales.
Yes, it's not "our" money. But it's someone's. They will want it back. With interest.
Hopefully it's legit somehow, but it doesn't look right.
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