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deeproot Pinball thread


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2 years ago



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Post #111 Firsthand information from the Magic Girl programmer. Posted by applejuice (2 years ago)

Post #3026 RAZA promotional video Posted by vireland (7 months ago)

Post #5771 First RAZA gameplay video Posted by ZMeny (30 days ago)

Post #5874 RAZA video with more audible game sounds Posted by zaphX (29 days ago)

Post #5926 First RAZA video with successful ramp completion Posted by zaphX (29 days ago)

Post #5967 Another RAZA gameplay video Posted by flynnibus (29 days ago)

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Post #6133 Video of display animations Posted by LateCenturyMods (28 days ago)

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#342 1 year ago

Am I the only one here that's reading between the lines that deeproot is using the law as a weapon and bullying/strong arming apple juice,zombie yeti, American pinball and anyone/everyone else they can. Also stealing Ben heck's bible adventures theme?
I can't be the only one here that sees this.

3 months later
#810 1 year ago
Quoted from SirScott:

Did they ever announce what their "Quad Assembly" is going to be?

They will, in two weeks.

2 months later
#1175 1 year ago

I expect anything/everything jpop does to be a rehash of everything he has already done. He will continue to recycle the same ramps, magnet set up he has already used on Tom,totan,wcs94, and cv.
The guy has nothing left, he blew his wad in the 90's.
Now The rest of team deeproot I'm looking forward to seeing What they can come up with and I wish them all great success.

#1177 1 year ago
Quoted from toyotaboy:

Sort of like how 95% of Stern pinball machines have a ramp on each side that returns the ball to the inlanes? Or how steve ritchie admits his lower half is EXACTLY the same on every game he designs? Not that I want to defend JPOP, but he does have some good concepts, he just sucks at implementing them.

Can't argue that. Some designers have gotten very complacent in their designs. If it worked once, reuse it 5-6 more times.

2 months later
#1823 1 year ago
Quoted from knockerlover:

Pinside less than 1 year.. What position do you hold at deeproot?

Salad tosser.

8 months later
#4107 5 months ago

Ice mans in pinside jail?
Where do I send the twinkle’s with the files in them?
Hang tough iceman.

#4108 5 months ago
Quoted from mrgone:

Ice mans in pinside jail?
Where do I send the twinkie’s with the files in them?
Hang tough iceman.

4 months later
#5512 31 days ago
Quoted from Pinphila:

Where is the innovation?

Yup. Let’s review.
Ramps, ok. Some cool stuff there but nothing mind blowing.
Some sculpted figures,
Nothing new.
A moving target. Nothing new.
A toy on a spring, see Star Wars,
A Ferris wheel, see cyclone and hurricane.
Maybe some magnets,see every other jpop game.

Nice art, very reminiscent of Big Bang bar as far as color palette goes.
Cool theme, I guess. So, in a nut shell.
Nothing we haven’t seen before.
Nothing mind blowing or really innovative.
What will really sell this? Price, and ruleset.
If it shoots well it could be a fun game.
But I’m not overly impressed with what I’ve seen yet.
But it’s all about how it plays.
We will wait and see.

#5711 30 days ago
Quoted from Yoko2una:

Indeed, and the shooter lane looks like it ramps up to ride out on another flat plastic.
That's a cool concept. Think of how many flat plastics there are in pinball that basically are unused space. They usually have some ugly posts on them to avoid ball traps. In this game they actually use flat plastics as part of ball paths. Unique.

Been done before. See black rose.
The shot off of the left ramp loops around and returns to the upper right flipper via flat plastics.
So again, where are the innovations?

#5927 29 days ago

Let’s roll back the clock.
1999, jpop designs his last, real, functional pinball game that is actually produced and shipped.
Star Wars episode 1.
It sucks.
Some years later, he designed sizzle games.
They are what they are.
2012
Zidware, designs no functioning games but takes a lot of money.
2015, pintasia tries to get a working prototype to the north west show.
It’s a barely functioning train wreck.
2016,
American pinball hires John to make Houdini.
It’s a box with lights. He then makes a couple dozen more boxes of lights called magic girl.
2029
John working for more than 2 years at deeproot working on a game he has already been working on for 5 years.
This is the end result of 7 years folks.
7 years and this is what the guy gives the pinball world.
Please, place these words into your brain for easy recall.
Jpop is not a genius.
He is a bat shit crazy, sociopath. He cons everyone he meets into buying his bullshit.
He CANNOT DESIGN A GAME FROM START TO FINISH THAT WILL WORK AND SHOOT WELL.
EVERYTHING HE TOUCHES TURNS TO SHIT.

Hopefully, after this shit show Robert will pull his head out of his ass and fire him and let anyone, ANYONE else design a game.
That is the only chance deeproot has of ever getting a game out that anyone wants and will actually play.

#5943 29 days ago

I still really want to play it.
But I’m less excited Tran before to reveal.
With all the talk deeproot did I really was expecting much more.
I still look forward to what Dennis Norman, Barry Oursler and the rest of the team can deliver.
I simply have zero faith in jpop.

#5947 29 days ago
Quoted from russdx:

point to us on the doll where jPop touched you

Well played sir. That made me chuckle.

#5993 29 days ago
Quoted from zaphX:

I'm not going to keep feeding the trolls in here.
My final word is that I really enjoyed playing it, and I wanted to play it more.

Quoted from zaphX:

I'm not going to keep feeding the trolls in here.
My final word is that I really enjoyed playing it, and I wanted to play it more.

Glad you like it.
Thank you to all for providing some video and feedback.

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