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deeproot Pinball thread


By pin2d

3 years ago



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#342 2 years ago

Am I the only one here that's reading between the lines that deeproot is using the law as a weapon and bullying/strong arming apple juice,zombie yeti, American pinball and anyone/everyone else they can. Also stealing Ben heck's bible adventures theme?
I can't be the only one here that sees this.

3 months later
#810 2 years ago
Quoted from SirScott:

Did they ever announce what their "Quad Assembly" is going to be?

They will, in two weeks.

2 months later
#1175 2 years ago

I expect anything/everything jpop does to be a rehash of everything he has already done. He will continue to recycle the same ramps, magnet set up he has already used on Tom,totan,wcs94, and cv.
The guy has nothing left, he blew his wad in the 90's.
Now The rest of team deeproot I'm looking forward to seeing What they can come up with and I wish them all great success.

#1177 2 years ago
Quoted from toyotaboy:

Sort of like how 95% of Stern pinball machines have a ramp on each side that returns the ball to the inlanes? Or how steve ritchie admits his lower half is EXACTLY the same on every game he designs? Not that I want to defend JPOP, but he does have some good concepts, he just sucks at implementing them.

Can't argue that. Some designers have gotten very complacent in their designs. If it worked once, reuse it 5-6 more times.

2 months later
#1823 2 years ago
Quoted from knockerlover:

Pinside less than 1 year.. What position do you hold at deeproot?

Salad tosser.

8 months later
#4107 1 year ago

Ice mans in pinside jail?
Where do I send the twinkle’s with the files in them?
Hang tough iceman.

#4108 1 year ago
Quoted from mrgone:

Ice mans in pinside jail?
Where do I send the twinkie’s with the files in them?
Hang tough iceman.

4 months later
#5512 1 year ago
Quoted from Pinphila:

Where is the innovation?

Yup. Let’s review.
Ramps, ok. Some cool stuff there but nothing mind blowing.
Some sculpted figures,
Nothing new.
A moving target. Nothing new.
A toy on a spring, see Star Wars,
A Ferris wheel, see cyclone and hurricane.
Maybe some magnets,see every other jpop game.

Nice art, very reminiscent of Big Bang bar as far as color palette goes.
Cool theme, I guess. So, in a nut shell.
Nothing we haven’t seen before.
Nothing mind blowing or really innovative.
What will really sell this? Price, and ruleset.
If it shoots well it could be a fun game.
But I’m not overly impressed with what I’ve seen yet.
But it’s all about how it plays.
We will wait and see.

#5711 1 year ago
Quoted from Yoko2una:

Indeed, and the shooter lane looks like it ramps up to ride out on another flat plastic.
That's a cool concept. Think of how many flat plastics there are in pinball that basically are unused space. They usually have some ugly posts on them to avoid ball traps. In this game they actually use flat plastics as part of ball paths. Unique.

Been done before. See black rose.
The shot off of the left ramp loops around and returns to the upper right flipper via flat plastics.
So again, where are the innovations?

#5927 1 year ago

Let’s roll back the clock.
1999, jpop designs his last, real, functional pinball game that is actually produced and shipped.
Star Wars episode 1.
It sucks.
Some years later, he designed sizzle games.
They are what they are.
2012
Zidware, designs no functioning games but takes a lot of money.
2015, pintasia tries to get a working prototype to the north west show.
It’s a barely functioning train wreck.
2016,
American pinball hires John to make Houdini.
It’s a box with lights. He then makes a couple dozen more boxes of lights called magic girl.
2029
John working for more than 2 years at deeproot working on a game he has already been working on for 5 years.
This is the end result of 7 years folks.
7 years and this is what the guy gives the pinball world.
Please, place these words into your brain for easy recall.
Jpop is not a genius.
He is a bat shit crazy, sociopath. He cons everyone he meets into buying his bullshit.
He CANNOT DESIGN A GAME FROM START TO FINISH THAT WILL WORK AND SHOOT WELL.
EVERYTHING HE TOUCHES TURNS TO SHIT.

Hopefully, after this shit show Robert will pull his head out of his ass and fire him and let anyone, ANYONE else design a game.
That is the only chance deeproot has of ever getting a game out that anyone wants and will actually play.

#5943 1 year ago

I still really want to play it.
But I’m less excited Tran before to reveal.
With all the talk deeproot did I really was expecting much more.
I still look forward to what Dennis Norman, Barry Oursler and the rest of the team can deliver.
I simply have zero faith in jpop.

#5947 1 year ago
Quoted from russdx:

point to us on the doll where jPop touched you

Well played sir. That made me chuckle.

#5993 1 year ago
Quoted from zaphX:

I'm not going to keep feeding the trolls in here.
My final word is that I really enjoyed playing it, and I wanted to play it more.

Quoted from zaphX:

I'm not going to keep feeding the trolls in here.
My final word is that I really enjoyed playing it, and I wanted to play it more.

Glad you like it.
Thank you to all for providing some video and feedback.

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#7200 10 months ago
Quoted from o-din:

Shasta and select lunch meats?

Post of the Fukien year sir! Bravo!!!

2 months later
#7948 8 months ago
Quoted from wolfemaaan:

I have to say, this thread gets the Seinfeld award. Almost 8000 posts about nothing. I saw it getting hot and low and behold, it was about Robert being racist now. At this point I never want to see the pins released at risk of this thread dying
Keep it going Deeproot thread about nothing![quoted image]

No soup for you!

6 months later
#10145 66 days ago

“It’s magic” jpop.

#10843 65 days ago
Quoted from benheck:

Dear rich people:
JPOP IS A LAZY HACK FRAUD.
At what point will you realize this?
Signed, Anyone who's known him.

post of the year!

#11246 64 days ago
Quoted from iceman44:

With all of these titles on the "drawing board" how many games a year do they expect to produce let's say in 2021?
It takes 300 employees at Stern to crank out about 18,000 pins.
Is this gonna be a Spooky level production? 750 games every 18 months?
AP? JJP?
Where is the assembly line? How many employees?
No answers to common sense questions.

“It’s magic” jpop.

1 week later
#11956 58 days ago

ben heck is on the latest K podcast.

even if you are not a fan of K. you really should listen as Ben Heck lays it out. he is professional and respectful but speaks the simple truth on jpop, Robert, and deeproot.
its really worth a listen.

#12071 56 days ago

It’s painfully obvious that Robert has drank the jpop kool aid and has a serious bromance going on.

The bad is that some really good and talented people will be hurt by this when the wheels finally come off.
Hopefully, this will be the final nail in the coffin for jpop and everyone on the planet will know what a cancerous turd he is.

1 month later
#13151 14 days ago
Quoted from benheck:

. Where does JPOP fail up to next?
."

Illinois state senator?

1 week later
#13189 6 days ago
Quoted from DS_Nadine:

Dead horse got‘em to (marginally) update their website.

And no one cares said all the villagers to the boy who cried wolf.

#13529 3 days ago

dr: We intend for our final games to be better quality than what currently exists, more profitably made. We will not be selling more than one model for each title which will simplify a lot of things behind the scenes.

from robert interview with twip.
nearly 3 years ago.
has this clown ever told the truth about anything?

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