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deeproot Pinball thread


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1 year ago



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#146 1 year ago

money and legalese talks.
both jim and jeremy reaching resolutions.

perhaps this new found money and legal team will enable JPOP to enforce any pinball patents he may have acquired during the past few years. another win for innovation.

#150 1 year ago
Quoted from frolic:

I think the one contentious patent is the "switch near lcd screen"

thats the one. and upon researching its approval process, i believe he was denied once or twice, but he continued to reapply/resubmit until it was granted.

Quoted from frolic:

things like Ghostbusters hologram and Quantum Theater.

and just about everything else that involves the future use of OLEDs/LCD/similar in pinball machines.

Quoted from frolic:

if he [John] starts trying to enforce patents that negatively affect other pinballs.

unfortunately, it wont be John who is doing the enforcing.

#156 1 year ago

hard to believe it was granted.
three non-final rejections and one final rejection during the process.

https://portal.uspto.gov/pair/PublicPair

enter application number: 13/709056

[may take a while for site to respond]

select "transaction history" from the menu.

for the description,
choose "public documents" then select either "view".
images can be accessed from "images" button at bottom of page.
select "full pages" from left margin.
for me, images worked in chrome, but not IE browser.

best access for both images and description.

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#210 1 year ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

Which guy is Robert?

Hilton.
to help humor your insatiable appetite to know who people are,
let me help you by eliminating four of the staff members for you.

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#290 1 year ago
Quoted from jlm33:

How about Heighway Pinball?
Will we ever see HP pinball game #3?
Who's left there as a pinball designer?

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2 weeks later
#557 1 year ago
Quoted from deeproot:

We will be taking a hammer to every PF.

flexible OLED playfields are coming.
see hammer test below.

does the P3's playfield screen concept already teeter on obsolescence?

cutting holes in the playfield for mechs? no problem.

1 week later
#588 1 year ago
Quoted from WackyBrakke:

You can buy a 55” OLED TV for like 800 bucks

as robotoes pointed out, there is a vast difference in price between flexible OLEDs and the tech used in OLED televisions. while flexible OLEDs offer considerable potential/promise for pinballs, their use is not practical at this time due to cost.

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#1106 10 months ago
Quoted from toyotaboy:

He clarifies that his goal is to streamline pinball design and manufacturing. His goal isn't to take Stern down, he just wants to build great pinball in the most cost effective way... a new company building from scratch would have a fresh approach.

im pro deeproot. its nice to see more attitudes swinging in that direction.
re: manufacturing, hes right about how ugly current upstarts and recent failed attempts are making/have made the industry look. years to production [if at all] and slow ramp ups being the norm.

Quoted from JodyG:

After listening to the interview, I hope Deeproot does disrupt the market a bit.

If deeproot delivers an exciting NIB experience when it comes to game features, price, and delivery times, companies whose customers are waiting up to a year for delivery of games designed by less experienced designers are going to be at risk. the competition needs to begin rewriting parts of their playbook starting now, before its too late and they 'wonder' what happened.

Quoted from JodyG:

I am imagining some kind of internet connectivity to these games as being the one way they are going to do it.

im old school. good shooter, good price; it doesn't need to be fancy. im hoping for a variety of playing experiences to be delivered through software. dynamic graphics on the pf [oleds] and holography might be ok. personally, ill be disappointed if internet, video, LCD graphics are a main selling point of their games.

no more quad assembly for robert, octo assembly is where its at now.

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Quoted from OnTheSnap:

Had a good laugh in a previous podcast when Joe mentioned he kept increasing the orders on Thunderbirds making him eat crow.

despite whatever benefits/advances homepin has made in assembly/construction, they've failed to deliver on gameplay/playability with this title. this was discussed, with detailed reasoning, months ago in their main thread. whatever tweaks were made to the design since then were not enough to convince those at NWPAS; most reviews were tactfully negative. quick search found no comments on gameplay from last weeks NERG. there is a 9:00 gameplay video. perhaps subsequent layouts will be more worthy of discussion, but as it stands, expect TAG to be a non-factor.

#1116 10 months ago

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Quoted from Frippertron:

How can you not root deeply for these guys?

let me ROOT, ROOT, ROOT for the home team
if they don't win its a shame
for its one, two, three strikes [K] youre out
at the old ball game.

#1142 10 months ago
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:Time for DR to go in another direction on their magical pin

Quoted from hank527:

Change the name to Magic Theatre or The Magician or Magicians

DR already has a magic pin in their lineup : magic girl.
do they really need a second one among their first four/five?
how about making one about a boy wizard?
or delve into bands pins with 'america'? because they can do magic.

2 weeks later
#1378 10 months ago
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:

could deeproot be a cult?

What is really going on inside that building??
Is Robert washing brains and reprogramming his believers?

how many wives does he have?
whats the real reason behind making bible themed pins?

im sure robert doesnt appreciate being lumped together with the likes of david koresh, even if waco is only 180 miles from san antonio.

1 week later
#1414 9 months ago
Quoted from Frippertron:

Tits are overrated, give me ass any day!

3 months later
#2214 5 months ago
Quoted from lpeters82:

with no capacity to produce more games, what is the economic benefit?

what is the capacity requirement for a game that isnt production ready for ~8 months after people were told production was to begin? 0 for those 8 months. what are the economic benefits of having interest-free use of hundreds of thousands of dollars in non-refundable deposits for nearly a year before production actually begins?

3 months later
#2653 72 days ago
Quoted from gliebig:

It all folds up and fits in your fanny pack for easy transport.

3 weeks later
#3174 51 days ago
Quoted from Brijam:

But I do think one reason we come here is to look out for one another, point out red flags that we see... overpromising mostly

well, that depends on whose red flags you are talking about.

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Quoted from Brijam:

Of fucking course it makes a person's /arguments/ more valid if they're coming from someone in the industry.

Appeal to authority is a common type of fallacy, or an argument based on unsound logic. When writers or speakers use appeal to authority, they are claiming that something must be true because it is believed by someone who said to be an "authority" on the subject.

in addition, what if said industry stalwart is making statements intend to cover up/mislead. they could simply be telling you what you want to hear, without regard to truth/feasibility.

1 month later
#3438 19 days ago
Quoted from flynnibus:

throw in some art teases...

#3478 18 days ago

We can never know about the days to come
But we think about them anyway
And I wonder if I'm really with you now
Or just chasin' after some finer day

Anticipation, anticipation
Is makin' me late
Is keepin' me waitin'

#3544 18 days ago
Quoted from HighProtein:

Who is their graphic designer!?

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#3551 18 days ago

its amazing how many of you overreact to comments that are on par with breaking a fingernail.

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#3704 1 day ago
Quoted from Rondogg:

Yes it can be frustrating to see words spelled incorrectly but it doesn't change their message

Quoted from NoQuarters:

Time marches on.

thyme weights four know juan.

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