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deeproot Pinball thread

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#2869 5 years ago
 
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Quoted from Wolfmarsh:

No matter what they charge, it comes down to EBIT and revenue per widget moved out of the building.
Just doing some simple math, at 750k a month going out, if they have operated at that burn rate for 6 months and will operate for 6 more months before steady revenue, that is 9 million dollars in the red.
If they make even a very generous 3k per machine they get out the door, that is 3000 games they have to sell to even recoup that cost, not counting the ongoing burn. With these numbers they have to ship 250 games a month to break even.
I think im being very generous with the 3k profit per machine too.
The math/business case on this is rough. I wonder when we will see a SaaS model in pinball.

Agree, The math for this doesn't add up.

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#5698 4 years ago
 
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not understanding why the ball is dropping in front of the left sling instead of the inlane, what benefit does that provide? One of the benefits of hitting a ramp is to score the inlane shot. Also, how much wear is that area going to see with no ability to protect it like a cliffy switch protector would. will be kind of an eyesore when it's worn to wood like you see with most switch slots over time.

looks like a cool game, but lots of unknowns right now.

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#5701 4 years ago
 
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Quoted from epthegeek:

It's only to 'score an inlane shot' in games designed for that. Dialed In dumps in front of the sling. Monopoly Dumps in front of the sling from the train. High speed dumps in front of the slings. Big Guns too. I'm sure there are others I'm not remembering.

There are letters on the in/outlanes, I assume you have to collect the letters a certain number of times to activate something else, otherwise what are the letters there for?

what do you mean dialed in dumps in front of the slings? both ramps return to the inlanes. I do see it on monopoly, never played that game and didn't realize it, but at least it also has ramps that return to both inlanes.

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#6622 4 years ago
 
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Quoted from Yelobird:

Fair enough just not of interest to me or my time personally. I have never really cared about any companies margins, habits, addictions, or success as it has no effect on me. Build a game, I buy a game, I am happy. If they asked for my money up front I would absolutely invest this much time into their business but no otherwise. Life is to short to care about other peoples business.

You buy a game from a company, company goes out of business...you would care.

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#10644 3 years ago
 
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I don't understand why they spend so much time on the cabinets. It never occurred to me that cabinets needed innovation (unless you could make the games lighter somehow). the last one stern did moving the on/off switch to the head was a bust IMO. i don't need more screens, I barely can look at them when I am playing. Instead, improving playfield quality and lighting, visual keys on what to hit, reliability of mechs and some in-game whiz-bang innovations are where the focus needs to be.

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#10925 3 years ago
 
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sorry, couldn't resist...this all reminds me of...

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#23788 2 years ago
 
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Really fascinating reading this thread. Went back just a year when discussion of the $750k/month burn rate was discussed around post 6604. The warning signs were there, but many refused to accept them. Hindsight of course is 20/20, but still, the math never really added up to me. Seems discussion of parts delays was just a red herring. What a terrible situation for just about everyone involved, hope people can recover some of their funds.

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#23868 2 years ago
 
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Quoted from parsonsaj:

The discussion of "parts delays"... just to clarify that, the primary reason for the delay in delivering the parts is that they were never ordered in the first place?

That’s just it, it seems it was just a red herring. Was there ever any manufacturing going on? They built a prototype, but what else was there? How could people be working there all this time with nothing going on? Or maybe they weren’t working there anymore, but were told they couldn’t say anything. I hope deposits weren’t being taken while all these people were leaving or had left already knowing the jig was up.

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