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deeproot Pinball thread


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#351 11 months ago

Everything in moderation....

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#352 11 months ago

American Pinball has recently become aware of statements made by DeeprootTech in an interview. Deeproot's statements misrepresent the situation and in particular the status of any rights of John Popadiuk relative to his work on the first Houdini™ pinball machine concept. In brief, only API has the rights to market or produce a Houdini™ pinball machine.

#353 11 months ago
Quoted from AmericanPinball:

American Pinball has recently become aware of statements made by DeeprootTech in an interview. Deeproot's statements misrepresent the situation and in particular the status of any rights of John Popadiuk relative to his work on the first Houdini™ pinball machine concept. In brief, only API has the rights to market or produce a Houdini™ pinball machine.

dun, Dun, DUN...the plot thickens.

#354 11 months ago

That's cool. They've abandoned their "we'll make a Houdini policy" but glad to see they are standing firm on the "no whitewood or test machine" policy.

You gotta have principles!

#355 11 months ago
Quoted from AmericanPinball:

In brief, only API has the rights to market or produce a Houdini™ pinball machine.

#356 11 months ago

nevermind, dumb laws

#357 11 months ago
Quoted from DCFAN:

Anybody could make a Houdini pinball machine

Try it.....

#359 11 months ago

It is like trademarking Alice in Wonderland. It should be public domain.

#360 11 months ago

I don't see why somebody couldn't make a Larry Houdini as long as they got the OK from Disney first.

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#361 11 months ago
Quoted from AmericanPinball:

In brief, only API has the rights to market or produce a Houdini™ pinball machine.

So you are saying this is not true?

#362 11 months ago

Nice, I thought anyone could make one as well but obviously I was wrong. Good for API.

#363 11 months ago

JPop's cancer spreads wherever he goes.

Also, why is Jpop's attorney representing American Pinball when he was representing Zidware and now JPop is at Deeproot? It seems like conflicts of interest doesn't it?

#364 11 months ago

Just rename it The Illusionist

#365 11 months ago
Quoted from BoJo:

Just rename it The Illusionist

And compromise the true creative vision of the genius?!?!?!

#366 11 months ago
Quoted from BoJo:

Just rename it The Illusionist

Or just simply "Popadiuk" He's a legend in his own mind and a master at making money disappear

#367 11 months ago

I say a david blaine parody pinball #cheezits

#368 11 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

glad to see they are standing firm on the "no whitewood or test machine" policy.

Is it plausible that deeproot has a bunch of jpop pinball dioramas (ala Houdini), and just as American Pinball were led to believe they had a "nearly done" Houdini that they started showing and creating sales flyers for, the reality is jpop is awesome at dioramas and convincing people they are completed games (not needing whitewoods or test machines)?

#369 11 months ago
Quoted from frolic:

Is it plausible that deeproot has a bunch of jpop pinball dioramas (ala Houdini), and just as American Pinball were led to believe they had a "nearly done" Houdini that they started showing and creating sales flyers for, the reality is jpop is awesome at dioramas and convincing people they are completed games (not needing whitewoods or test machines)?

I'll admit I thought his StyroKISS was very cool.

I almost sent him $15,000 right then and there.

#370 11 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

I almost sent him $15,000 right then and there.

That's why they call you CRAZYLevi

#371 11 months ago

When I read the most recent Deeproot interview, I took it more as they would develop a machine based on Jpop's previous Houdini design (but not necessarily call it Houdini).

They specifically said they are happy to add John's Houdini design to its portfolio of games. That doesn't mean they were planning to make Houdini.

#372 11 months ago
Quoted from brucipher:

They specifically said they are happy to add John's Houdini design to its portfolio of games. That doesn't mean they were planning to make Houdini.

Does this mean we may finally be getting that Marshall Brodien pinball machine?

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#373 11 months ago
Quoted from o-din:

Does this mean we may finally be getting that Marshall Brodien pinball machine?

God willing!!

#374 11 months ago
Quoted from brucipher:

When I read the most recent Deeproot interview, I took it more as they would develop a machine based on Jpop's previous Houdini design (but not necessarily call it Houdini).
They specifically said they are happy to add John's Houdini design to its portfolio of games. That doesn't mean they were planning to make Houdini.

John has wanted to do a Copperfield for years. Don't be surprised if his Houdini is repurposed. Not hard to come up with another magic theme.

#375 11 months ago

Here's the post from Zombie Yeti about Copperfield, from the other jpop thread:

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#376 11 months ago
Quoted from frolic:

John has wanted to do a Copperfield for years. Don't be surprised if his Houdini is repurposed. Not hard to come up with another magic theme.

That’s what ToM is (er, was). Getting a Copperfield license may be a bit creepy now that he’s apparently been outed as a pedo rapist

#377 11 months ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Getting a Copperfield license may be a bit creepy now that he’s apparently been outed as a pedo rapist

Creepy, for sure, but on the bright side the Copperfield license should also be considerably cheaper now. Remember, these guys hired JPop, so they're clearly not deterred by the potential for a bit of bad press.

Plus, there's great synergy with George H.W. Bush's recently revealed pickup line: "'David Cop-a-feel is my favorite magician."

#378 11 months ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

he’s apparently been outed as a pedo rapist

He's had unsubstantiated allegations against him. One of his accusers has been charged with making false claims against another man. http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/01/26/copperfield.accuser/index.html

#379 11 months ago
Quoted from AmericanPinball:

American Pinball has recently become aware of statements made by DeeprootTech in an interview. Deeproot's statements misrepresent the situation and in particular the status of any rights of John Popadiuk relative to his work on the first Houdini™ pinball machine concept. In brief, only API has the rights to market or produce a Houdini™ pinball machine.

Our only response to AP's post is that their statements are not true, they contradict their attorney's private statements, they contradict the contract they voluntarily drafted and entered into with John, and (as to the trademark) appear to contradict federal law. We are proceeding with John's original Houdini design but not the Houdini name; which is consistent with our prior statement.

-dP

#380 11 months ago

And people give me a funny look when I say pinball is the most drama filled hobby I've ever run across.

#381 11 months ago

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#382 11 months ago
Quoted from deeproot:

Our only response to AP's post is that their statements are not true, they contradict their attorney's private statements, they contradict the contract they voluntarily drafted and entered into with John, and (as to the trademark) appear to contradict federal law. We are proceeding with John's original Houdini design but not the Houdini name; which is consistent with our prior statement.
-dP

No one cares about this, what we really want to know is how much more purple will be added to the design?

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#383 11 months ago
Quoted from deeproot:

We are proceeding with John's original Houdini design but not the Houdini name
-dP

so ball paths that go to nowhere then?

#384 11 months ago

I've got your magician right here, can't lose with this guy. Hell, he even likes big shiny silver balls.

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#385 11 months ago
Quoted from deeproot:

Our only response to AP's post is that their statements are not true, they contradict their attorney's private statements, they contradict the contract they voluntarily drafted and entered into with John, and (as to the trademark) appear to contradict federal law. We are proceeding with John's original Houdini design but not the Houdini name; which is consistent with our prior statement.
-dP

Cool?!? I'm dying to see what the target switch on the side of the shooter lane is for.

Quoted from DngrWillRobinson:

I've got your magician right here, can't lose with this guy. Hell, he even likes big shiny silver balls.

Reminds me of this:

#386 11 months ago

My opinion on the whole Deeproot thing is, that they are just a bunch of idiots, doing nothing with passion for the pinball world.

If you engage in something with jpop you are just stupid or you want to get money the way patent trolls do. Also that Robert seems like an arrogant sob with little to no knowledge of the pinball world.

I sincerely hope that for once the pinball community is using their brain and never buy anything new that is even remotely related to Jpop. Do not reward that guy for everything he did and do not reward the company that pays him.

People that know me know that I am never very negative, even positive regarding all new pinball, but this just is too much. Media should also stop giving them a stage. Nothing positive is coming from that. Pinball should be exciting and fun. Deeproot to me is irritating and frustrating.

#387 11 months ago

My wife was once hit on by David Copperfield a few years before I met her. Fortunately, she was not interested in him.

Copperfield has had various allegations against him by women. There is enough smoke there that a huge creepy vibe comes off.

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#388 11 months ago

I once dated a magician. As we were driving, she put her hand on my leg and I turned into a motel.

#389 11 months ago
Quoted from FalconPunch:

Any Arrested Development fans out there? I couldn't help but to think of this when I was reading.

Haha, this reminds me of my old shirt...

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#390 11 months ago

I must have a magician pinball machine!

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#391 11 months ago
Quoted from ronaldvg:

Media should also stop giving them a stage. Nothing positive is coming from that.

I read both articles (and this thread) solely for the entertainment value.

I’m looking forward to the next interview and hope people ask hard questions (and document answers) at any shows Deep Root attends. Hopefully it won’t be long until the “5 Days of Laughter.”

Deep Root / Robert Mueller is already on record with statements that other parties have subsequently stated are misrepresentations or untrue. Lots of apparent “puffery” in the things he’s said that haven’t been contradicted yet.

I’d love to ask if they are going to incorporate JPOP’s famed “real quickstep solenoids” and other made up words just to see if his image is so important to him that he goes along with it instead of saying he is unfamiliar with those terms or technologies.

#392 11 months ago
Quoted from YeOldPinPlayer:

He's had unsubstantiated allegations against him. One of his accusers has been charged with making false claims against another man. http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/01/26/copperfield.accuser/index.html

That’s a different person

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#393 11 months ago
Quoted from deeproot:

Our only response to AP's post is that their statements are not true, they contradict their attorney's private statements, they contradict the contract they voluntarily drafted and entered into with John, and (as to the trademark) appear to contradict federal law. We are proceeding with John's original Houdini design but not the Houdini name; which is consistent with our prior statement.
-dP

Box of lights: 10k by Christmas!!

#394 11 months ago

A reminder of what JPs Houndi looked like at expo 2016 -

#395 11 months ago

WCS is the only thing that’s worth a damn and heard he needed a team of people to make that even work.

#396 11 months ago

Isn't it kind of pathetic that DP is using the Jpop Houdini layout and re-theming it? What a F ing joke that is.

I'm sure Jpop the genius already has a few dozen other layouts in the pipeline. Use those.

Stick to trying to make MG, RAZA and AIW work first and let Nordman and Ousler do their thing.

#397 11 months ago
Quoted from FalconPunch:

A reminder of what JPs Houndi looked like at expo 2016 -
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It's coming back to me.. Left loopback ramp that goes to nowhere, houdini tank that blocked the LCD screen (just like magic girl), and the panhead screws used to fasten down the ramp instead of flatheads (so the ball would bounce). I don't care if it was a rushed prototype, you can buy flathead screws at home depot. Also no spring steel ramp flaps (also easily fabricated if you're even remedially crafty).

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#398 11 months ago
Quoted from deeproot:

Our only response to AP's post is that their statements are not true, they contradict their attorney's private statements, they contradict the contract they voluntarily drafted and entered into with John, and (as to the trademark) appear to contradict federal law. We are proceeding with John's original Houdini design but not the Houdini name; which is consistent with our prior statement.
-dP

Don't mind us, by all means, keep fighting in the forums.

#399 11 months ago

This is quickly becoming my new favorite thread.

#400 11 months ago
Quoted from deeproot:

We are proceeding with John's original Houdini design but not the Houdini name

No worries....ya still got "Sexy Copperfield"!

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