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deeproot Pinball thread

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#28501 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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Quoted from frobozz:

Sorry, I can't keep up - but he says they had no accountants? I distinctly remember him saying that pinball was so easy(tm) that their accountants were going to be programming the games. Huh. That might explain a lot.

He didn't keep a papertrail of anything because he knew he was scamming. He stonewalls every question about where they should look for any paperwork for any details on accounting

Robert tried to get out of the call by saying his newborn needs him soon and was immediately shut down on it. He's being incredibly disrespectful about it.

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#28502 2 years ago
 
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ufotofu

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Robert's lawyer just said that they'll need to leave in 30 minutes to deal with a "child care issue"

Judge - "No sir"

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#28503 2 years ago
 
LEV

CrazyLevi

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Quoted from SantaEatsCheese:

Someone is ordering a burrito in the background.

It's the promised "Tex-Mex Lunch" from the big RAZA reveal!

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#28504 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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Yeah anyone who thought Robert might be realizing how much shit he is in was totally wrong. He doesn't give a fuuuck

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#28505 2 years ago
 
LEV

CrazyLevi

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10y 148K 33,559

Quoted from ufotofu:

Robert's lawyer just said that they'll need to leave in 30 minutes to deal with a "child care issue"
Judge - "No sir"

So Mueller WAS pregnant!

And all this time I thought it was a beach ball under his tight polo shirts.

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#28506 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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If someone did have to write a transcript of this, they'd wear out the keyboard command for copy and paste with Robert pleading the fifth.

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#28507 2 years ago
 
LEO

LeonSpinkx

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US Eugene, OR

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Quoted from CrazyLevi:

So Mueller WAS pregnant!
And all this time I thought it was a beach ball under his tight polo shirts.

It's his innovative new PinBelly™.

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#28508 2 years ago
 
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SantaEatsCheese

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He is going through the same document and talking about all these items and the years they say they started. Example, What was the retail that you say started in 2017?

5th amendment all

Agricultural starts in 2017?

5th amendment (what was he doing in agriculture... how?)

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#28509 2 years ago
 
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SantaEatsCheese

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They are asking about:

agriculture
sports
mining
retail

He had claimed he was doing services with sports teams!

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#28510 2 years ago
 
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frobozz

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Quoted from SantaEatsCheese:

Agricultural starts in 2017?
5th amendment (what was he doing in agriculture... how?)

Someone pull up that Mueller Corn sign picture....

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#28511 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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Quoted from SantaEatsCheese:

They are asking about:
agriculture
sports
mining
retail
He had claimed he was doing services with sports teams!

The agriculture is new.

He sponsored a minor league soccer team

He's talked about mining in Africa before

Retail I'm not sure. He invested in a carwash I think?

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#28512 2 years ago
 
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SantaEatsCheese

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They are going to talk about a different document.

Some spreadsheet.

Do you have that document?

No

Can we get this document to him?

We'll email it to him.

Kind of funny to listen to.

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#28513 2 years ago
 
GTX

gdonovan

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Quoted from TreyBo69:

He's also a big fan of "I don't recall" and "the documents speak for themselves"

I'm thinking you could do a "deeproot the scam" pinball game and all the switch hits would be variations of today's answers.

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#28514 2 years ago
 
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ufotofu

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I think the extent of their involvement with sports, was that Deeproot sponsored a low-level soccer team in San Antonio.

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/2015/11/20/exclusive-scorpions-largest-corporate-sponsor-says.html

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#28515 2 years ago
 
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yancy

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Quoted from TreyBo69:

He invested in a carwash I think?

Breaking Bob

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#28516 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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Quoted from flynnibus:

Im unclear why these topics are part of a creditors meeting? Shouldn’t this be about people establishing their standing and liabilities? Not muellerd scam structure?

Robert is acting surprised this is taking him more than a few minutes himself. He's acting like he's burdened to be here and parrot his fifth amendment rights.

He really doesn't seem to get how much shit he's in or cares that little at this point.

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#28517 2 years ago
 
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SantaEatsCheese

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Can you describe the document?

Across the top it says Roman 2 C Entities

We are waiting for Mueller to find something.

Awaiting an email.

Judge: Any luck?

No. Still waiting for the email.

There is an entity out there by the name of CCW Braun Heights LLC that has signed a promisory note to one of the debtors... are you familiar with this transaction?

Yes

On the document I am looking at it is split between Policies Services Inc and as a seperate document to Deeproot funds... can you explain to me why the payment on this or the payee is split between policy services and deeproot funds?

5th

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#28518 2 years ago
 
GAC

Rarehero

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His new wife probably wishes she was back in Ukraine. Being invaded by Russia might be a better life than being married to Robert.

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#28519 2 years ago
 
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SantaEatsCheese

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Do you know what this was about?

Do you personally have any interest in CCW Braun heigts?

No

Have you received any money from them in a personal capacity?

Can you restate the question?

Have you personaly received any money or anything of value from CCW Braun Heights?

No

Do you ahve an ownership interest in CCW Braun Heights

Personally, no?

In any capacity outside of these debtors

No

Your family?

No

Any insiders?

No

Do you know who owns this company?

No

Do you remember who you did this transaction with?

Name

And how do you know name?

I don't

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#28520 2 years ago
 
KIM

Mr68

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Robert asked his wife if the child was his. She plead the 5th.

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#28521 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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It's pretty common for Robert to plead the fifth about location and contents of documents the court doesn't have, and just says the documents speak for themselves for what paperwork they do have. Earlier he was talking about why he needed to be allowed back on the property to get some documents, and pleaded the fifth when asked what documents someone else could be retrieving for him or what to look for.

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#28522 2 years ago
 
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SantaEatsCheese

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They are asking his about a bunch of corporations that he may have ownership in, presumably to go after him.

He is pleading the 5th.

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#28523 2 years ago
 
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ufotofu

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On the rare occasions he does answer questions, he's almost immediately self-contradictory (giving a name for the person he worked with on the car wash investment, then claiming not to know them in literally the next sentence).

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#28524 2 years ago
 
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SantaEatsCheese

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I gotta run but look forward to reading summaries and excerpts from the meeting anyone else is kind enough to post.

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#28525 2 years ago
 
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ufotofu

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This is the first I'm hearing about the Food Development Corp connection. If Robert is actually connected to their business, it explains a bit of Deeproot's claims around agriculture and business in Africa.

https://www.bizjournals.com/houston/stories/2004/08/09/story1.html

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#28526 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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"Can you explain why this account went from over $4m to $400k"

Fifth

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#28527 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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I thought we did an ok job finding Roberts network of fake companies, but maybe we only scratched the surface

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#28528 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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"What is the business of Equity Secure [something]"

Fifth

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#28529 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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"we can get through this much quicker if you just gave me a straight answer"

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#28530 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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The frustration with Robert is real and mounting

Also mute your phone people

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#28531 2 years ago
 
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benheck

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Quoted from Rarehero:

His new wife probably wishes she was back in Ukraine. Being invaded by Russia might be a better life than being married to Robert.

OMG thanks for a IRL mega LOL.

"90 Day Fiance: The Prison Life"

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#28532 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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Asking about where the Hawaii condo purchase is on any of the company documents, why it's listed as an asset, and why it's not up for the debtors to claim. Surprise surprise, Robert doesn't know and pleads the 5th

"did anyone pay $135k to Policy Services to extinguish this debt"

Fifth. Audible sigh

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#28533 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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Robert is claiming his building deposit that his landlord has as an asset. He ain't getting it back...

Now the carwash is being discussed

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#28534 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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"where did the money come to fund this carwash purchase, did it come from deeproot or Policy Service"

Fifth

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#28535 2 years ago
 
JSS

JStoltz

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Fifth Amendment Switch Frenzy MUUULLLTIIIBALLLLL

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#28536 2 years ago
 
GAC

Rarehero

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Quoted from benheck:

OMG thanks for a IRL mega LOL.
"90 Day Fiance: The Prison Life"

As a 90 Day fan…I would be there for that.

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#28537 2 years ago
 
BEN

benheck

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For a religious dude he's sure downing a lot of fifths!

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#28538 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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"Did Policy Service Inc advance $2m+ to you"

5th

"when was that money advanced to you"

5th

"is there a promisery note or document of this advance"

5th

"are there any written documents we should be looking for to evidence this transaction"

5th

"since Dec 31 2021, did you pay any of the $2m back"

5th

"did the debtor write a check or distribute cash"

5th

"when PS would pay your bills, is this the account that would be debted for the bookkeeper to keep track"

5th

"on your personal taxes, did you claim this $2m+ in any way"

5th

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#28539 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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"Can you confirm or explain what is on the debts and balances sheet"

5th

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#28540 2 years ago
 
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JStoltz

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Lol. "Who is Paul?"

5th.

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#28541 2 years ago
 
JSS

JStoltz

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Quoted from JStoltz:

Lol. "Who is Paul?"
5th.

Is Paul.. a... person?

5th.

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#28542 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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Who is Paul and did you loan them 25k

Fifth

is there paperwork of this transaction

Fifth

is Paul a person?

Fifth

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#28543 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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"have any of the life insurance policies on the assets matured since Dec 31 21"

5th

"prior to that date?"

5th

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#28544 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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So much "who is this person" 5th "are they related to you" 5th etc...

asking Robert what his initials are threw him for a second

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#28545 2 years ago
 
DLA

ufotofu

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"Mr Mueller, who is WMM?"

5th

"Mr Mueller, what are your initials?"

........RJM

"Is WMM a relative of yours?"

5th

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#28546 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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"where did Policy Services get $32m"

5th

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#28547 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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I like when he confers with his lawyers for a minute and comes back with a 5th...

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#28548 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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About 200 of his slogan and he finally fumbled pleading the 5th. He practiced hard on the phrase

He's getting lazy with it here and there now

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#28549 2 years ago
 
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TreyBo69

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Robert is really leaning hard on good luck finding documented fraud anywhere style defense, I wont say what is documented or what to look for or where to look.

As if that magically solves where all this money is coming and going....

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#28550 2 years ago
 
MBW

mbwalker

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I think we are finally having 'The 5 Days of Deeproot', but it's in the courtroom instead of at a pinballshow.

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