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It would be the most deeproot thing for the pinbar to actually make it to market minus the pinball machine
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Quoted from blueberryjohnson:It would be the most deeproot thing for the pinbar to actually make it to market minus the pinball machine
Could you incorporate a sound mixer card? I’d like this to play a loop of Robert Mueller quotes from the 3 Kaneda interviews plus any others he may have given. Produce and sell 200 pinbars by Christmas and you’ve lapped deeproot’s accomplishments five fold.
If there ever is a serious list, mark me down for one. It will be the coolest picture frame on the planet. At least in my nerdy pinball world.
Quoted from thechakapakuni:I think what sunk DR was UL certification afterthought. When you announce you will be delivering pins before this step you are way out of your league in manufacturing.
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I think it’s quite obvious by now that UL certification was never an actual issue or obstacle. They never got that far.
Quoted from WillSmuz8999:I can't provide quantity yet. We made all the metal for this game. Waiting to see if anything positive happens, but we like many, are in a long line. I believe first comes the lawyers, then the investors, and lastly the creditors -- not enough money is possibly available to reach us.
That is my idea, once the waiting period is over, to possibly sell as a boat anchor for your office. I'll keep you posted. The playfield glass holder turned out so well. "I dealt with Deeproot, and all I got was this lousy Pinbar!"
I am curious as to whether or not you made these as weldments, or if you were able to make a draw die(s) to form and stamp them out.
Quoted from JodyG:I am curious as to whether or not you made these as weldments, or if you were able to make a draw die(s) to form and stamp them out.
The old Williams standard Lockdown Bar is made in a draw die. Due to the low volume for this bar, we made a corner forming die, but calculated the way the material should be cut in strips, so we when formed in the compound radius, would mesh up well, so we weren't welding huge gaps. The way we weld, grind and buff -- you would think the part was made in a draw die, unless you flipped it over. Even so, our weld beads are minimal.
Quoted from WillSmuz8999:I can't provide quantity yet. We made all the metal for this game. Waiting to see if anything positive happens, but we like many, are in a long line. I believe first comes the lawyers, then the investors, and lastly the creditors -- not enough money is possibly available to reach us.
That is my idea, once the waiting period is over, to possibly sell as a boat anchor for your office. I'll keep you posted. The playfield glass holder turned out so well. "I dealt with Deeproot, and all I got was this lousy Pinbar!"
This sucks. I wonder how many other vendors are left holding the bag.
So much collateral damage here. Competent vendors who did their job, wasted their time, took a financial hit because of it. All DR had to do was mostly put together other peoples parts and they couldn’t even muster that.
I will buy a PinBar ( if they can ever be sold ) to hang in my arcade simply as a testament to incompetent and financially reckless hubris.
Quoted from WillSmuz8999:The old Williams standard Lockdown Bar is made in a draw die. Due to the low volume for this bar, we made a corner forming die, but calculated the way the material should be cut in strips, so we when formed in the compound radius, would mesh up well, so we weren't welding huge gaps. The way we weld, grind and buff -- you would think the part was made in a draw die, unless you flipped it over. Even so, our weld beads are minimal.
Excellent work figuring all that out! They look really good...and they look like they were stamped. I do a lot of progressive die design at times, and I hate having to figure out draw dies. Laser cut trial blanks have made it much easier lately though.
Quoted from WillSmuz8999:The old Williams standard Lockdown Bar is made in a draw die. Due to the low volume for this bar, we made a corner forming die, but calculated the way the material should be cut in strips, so we when formed in the compound radius, would mesh up well, so we weren't welding huge gaps. The way we weld, grind and buff -- you would think the part was made in a draw die, unless you flipped it over. Even so, our weld beads are minimal.
Hate to hear good people getting left holding the bag here. Not that it would make you whole, but I think you have a market in wall-art or toppers here.
Quoted from Scandell:I think it’s quite obvious by now that UL certification was never an actual issue or obstacle. They never got that far.
Yeah, the preorders were either:
An attempt to lend legitimacy to the pinball enterprise in the face of an investigation.
Or an attempt to raise more funds after the 60 million was gone through. Or both I guess.
UL certification was just an excuse after the fact. And it isn’t required; I wonder if AMH by spooky had it. Same sized run.
Quoted from Richthofen:UL certification was just an excuse after the fact. And it isn’t required; I wonder if AMH by spooky had it. Same sized run.
Hell no. We had NO MONEY. But we made a game 
Quoted from blueberryjohnson:Hat tip to yet another former deeproot employee for the heads up!
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Feels like character witnesses may be in short supply...
https://www.expressnews.com/business/article/San-Antonio-investment-adviser-Mueller-fraud-16563274.php
Poetic irony that they used a JD photo of DeadWorld in that article
I'd buy a Pinbar. Reminds me of when people were selling their Enron paper stock certificates as souvenirs.
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:Poetic irony that they used a JD photo of DeadWorld in that article
Probably from the photo shoot when they did this article
https://www.expressnews.com/entertainment/article/World-ranked-pinball-wizard-is-reviving-the-game-15102514.php
Quoted from benheck:Look how perfectly this would fit the PinBar.
This remains one of the great exchanges in Pinside history. Good God, that man is a moron.
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:Poetic irony that they used a JD photo of DeadWorld in that article
That's an excellent point. I wonder if the deeproot logo is still has a valid trademark. Could you sell Deeproot World mods for Judge Dredd in lieu of Deadworld?
Merthyr Tydfil
Quoted from EalaDubhSidhe:Why is this still going?
Because you don't want to be a Laurie Strode resting while the corpse of JPop rises behind you.
Quoted from fosaisu:This remains one of the great exchanges in Pinball history. Good God, that man is a moron.
The PinStadium ads on the bottom really seal it for me.
Quoted from EalaDubhSidhe:Why is this still going?
So when people google "Deeproot Pinball", Google's algorithm picks up this page before the company's and hopefully saves someone some headaches.
DRRR (resized).pngHoly cow.... did you guys know Robert Mueller's Deeproot killed a soccer team too? There was a "Deeproot cup" at one point in time. Deeproot was the sponsor of the San Antonio Scorpions but pulled funding when he realized they sucked. Everytime I google deeproot I find out something even worse.
Quoted from sataneatscheese:Holy cow.... did you guys know Robert Mueller's Deeproot killed a soccer team too? There was a "Deeproot cup" at one point in time. Deeproot was the sponsor of the San Antonio Scorpions but pulled funding when he realized they sucked. Everytime I google deeproot I find out something even worse.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Antonio_Scorpions
It's been discussed a few times. Someone even had a ebay posting of one of the soccer jerseys if you wanted one.
Quoted from fosaisu:This remains one of the great exchanges in Pinball history. Good God, that man is a moron.
I used to fear him. Now, seeing how dumb his scam was... yes. He's a bully moron with a law degree. Nothing more.
Quoted from sataneatscheese:That's an excellent point. I wonder if the deeproot logo is still has a valid trademark. Could you sell Deeproot World mods for Judge Dredd in lieu of Deadworld?
LOL!
Quoted from benheck:I used to fear him. Now, seeing how dumb his scam was... yes. He's a bully moron with a law degree. Nothing more.
The guy literally bragged about nuisance lawsuits. That is a lot to be fearful of.
Quoted from Roostking:it's only in the 4th inning, right Ice! I would say 5th at this point, but it ain't over yet!
His. Tech. Has. Played. Food. Truck. LOVES. IT!
A few new not exciting docs filed in the SEC case. From my reading, it seems like everyone agreed to let Bobby have about $150k to make some insurance policy payments so they don't default, hire a law firm to draw up the bankruptcy documents, and pay for some minor ongoing business expenses (web hosting apparently no longer one of them).
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/60223430/20/securities-and-exchange-commission-v-mueller/
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/60223430/20/1/securities-and-exchange-commission-v-mueller/
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/60223430/21/securities-and-exchange-commission-v-mueller/
Nothing in there about funds for car payments, takeout, child support, or additional divorces. Does this mean he's given up on getting $ to maintain his lifestyle, or might that still be in cards elsewhere?
Wow so he’s going for a chapter 7 bankruptcy which is essentially terminal for a business. A court appointed bankruptcy trustee gets possession of all the assets and then sells them off. Any proceeds go immediately to paying off creditors. Once everything is sold off then any unresolved debts are considered closed out and everyone is SOL. This might be everyone’s chance to get their hands on some RAZAs lol. The chapter 7 can also be bundled with personal debts so you get to wipe out your personal and business debts in one swoop.
Quoted from JStoltz:Pretty cool move by Nordman here, donating one of his deeproot shirts to the silent auction:[quoted image]
Dennis donated a few new shirts to see if something good might come of it all. If you want to check them out, stop by the Project Pinball booth at Expo. And in case you are wondering, both are 2XL. Thanks.
PXL_20211029_184903905 (resized).jpgQuoted from Inside:Wow so he’s going for a chapter 7 bankruptcy which is essentially terminal for a business. A court appointed bankruptcy trustee gets possession of all the assets and then sells them off. Any proceeds go immediately to paying off creditors. Once everything is sold off then any unresolved debts are considered closed out and everyone is SOL. This might be everyone’s chance to get their hands on some RAZAs lol. The chapter 7 can also be bundled with personal debts so you get to wipe out your personal and business debts in one swoop.
“Dear DR faithful, I still can’t discuss the legal issues but we expect them to come to a close sooner rather than later. We know you are as disappointed at this continued delay as we are here at DR. While we all wait we have decided to hold a raffle the get the first pin off the assembly line. Go to www.govdeals.com/Deeproot to register. Due to the very limited nature of this amazing opportunity to be the first to have your very own RAZA (signed by JPOP himself with a full certificate of authenticity but no UL certificate yet) there is a $1000 auction registration fee and a 75% buyers premium. All auction proceeds will be donated to those in need. Yours truly RM”
Quoted from toyotaboy:saturday afternoon, still not a single bid on the deeproot shirt [quoted image]
guess the bathrooms are well stocked
Quoted from blueberryjohnson:Ever wonder how Robert could so effortlessly pivot to discussions of gold mining in Africa?
Bobby's global investment roots run deep!
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I bet you Libya paid the extra thousand to have jpop assemble light propeller aircrafts in their living room.
"Bank Holdings", coming soon. Hah.
Quoted from blueberryjohnson:Ever wonder how Robert could so effortlessly pivot to discussions of gold mining in Africa?
Bobby's global investment roots run deep!
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I bet you Libya paid the extra thousand to have jpop assemble light propeller aircrafts in their living room.
That’s a lot of double dipping going on in the advertising. deeproot tech and pinball are the same business, aren’t they?
Quoted from benheck:Wear it in public and normies might mistake you for a butt plug salesman.
A real conversation starter!
Quoted from toyotaboy:saturday afternoon, still not a single bid on the deeproot shirt [quoted image]
Nordman could wipe his butt, put the toilet paper up for auction, and get more bids than a Derp Poop shirt.
Quoted from Inside:Wow so he’s going for a chapter 7 bankruptcy which is essentially terminal for a business. A court appointed bankruptcy trustee gets possession of all the assets and then sells them off. Any proceeds go immediately to paying off creditors. Once everything is sold off then any unresolved debts are considered closed out and everyone is SOL. This might be everyone’s chance to get their hands on some RAZAs lol. The chapter 7 can also be bundled with personal debts so you get to wipe out your personal and business debts in one swoop.
Yeah, remember that a certain VIP said declaring bankruptcy repeatedly is just good business sense. Nothing like screwing over your fellow countrymen in the name of $$ 
Quoted from blueberryjohnson:Ever wonder how Robert could so effortlessly pivot to discussions of gold mining in Africa?
Bobby's global investment roots run deep!
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I bet you Libya paid the extra thousand to have jpop assemble light propeller aircrafts in their living room.
Deeproot should sell their $300M stake in African ventures and pay everybody back.
Quoted from Yoreland:Dear Ben,
You keep bringing him up.
Signed, "Wonder what the King of Hacks is doing now with his sugar daddy deposed?"
And meanwhile….no one’s wondering what you’re doing.
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