Alice in Wonderland
Zidware Pinball USA, 2013
Celts
Haggis, 2021
Magic Girl
Zidware Pinball USA, 2017
Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland
Zidware Pinball USA, 2012
Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland (Arcade Edition)
Deeproot, 2020
Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland (Xtra Edition)
Deeproot, 2020Quoted from shlt_thunder:I dunno. It's got that long LCD screen and the pinbar are both pretty interesting and novel ideas. I like the way the glass and playfield raise up. I think I want one. The theme sounds like it is from the dollar store, but besides that, I really like it. Hope I'm not too late.
Notsureifserious.gifQuoted from starfighter:This is becoming The War And Peace of pinball.
Which, ironically was about rich people pretending they had money but then didn't.
Quoted from PismoArcade:Barry received over $33,000 a few years ago through Go Fund Me when he and his wife were ill. I imagine he needed the money.
https://uk.gofundme.com/f/6fgkt0
I actually feel bad/mad that Barry is involved in this shit show. He made some of my favorite machines.
Quoted from starfighter:The War And Peace of pinball.
Quoted from jorant:Which, ironically was about rich people pretending they had money but then didn't.
I thought it was about Russians and their undying love for obscure nick-names. JPop and Blobert would fit right in.
Quoted from Mr68:If you're going to start a documentary, this all goes back to and begins with Gene Cunningham and Big Bang Bar in 2009. That set the tone, set the bar, that set the Holy Grail of FOMO. Even today you hear people whisper, "XYZ game is gonna be the next BBB".
No other game before or snice can compare to its status. It was the right game, in the right place at the right time.
And you could start even earlier on Gene alone - at least 1999 - because there were plenty of shenanigans going on back then, too.
Quoted from benheck:I was going to do that after I rage quite Spooky 3 years ago. Then at almost the same time Blobert announces he is making it.
Was very sad. Because I knew Blobert is the kind of slime who would sue me for doing the same public domain theme as him. And also because he'd completely fuck up the concept.
But now? Maybe I should.
This'll make you laugh then. Guess what I nearly ended up working on. I'm not even joking.
wtf (resized).jpgwhussis (resized).jpgNow we're getting somewhere in terms of legit news coverage
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/2021/08/25/sec-charges-mueller-deeproot.html
deeproot Robert Mueller accused by SEC - San Antonio Business Journal.pdfQuoted from EalaDubhSidhe:This'll make you laugh then. Guess what I nearly ended up working on. I'm not even joking.[quoted image][quoted image]
Bwaaaaahahahaha!!! OMFG.
Quoted from blueberryjohnson:Now we're getting somewhere in terms of legit news coverage
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/2021/08/25/sec-charges-mueller-deeproot.html[quoted image]
Hey my buddy wrote that.
> In recent years, Mueller has been investing in a next generation pinball machine called the "Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland," which has been hotly anticipated and debated by pinball fans online.
Understatement of the year
Quoted from pinball_keefer:And you could start even earlier on Gene alone - at least 1999 - because there were plenty of shenanigans going on back then, too.
My point was, in response to a documentary film suggestion, that Big Bang Bar was a benchmark game that began the pre-order model and the FOMO craze in modern day pinball. BBB, along with the other games he spoke of, was the most significant IMO and should have been included.
For me to have explained any further would have been extraneous and I'll leave the history books to others.
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The long term life insurance play was to put out pinball machines that burnt people’s houses down.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:Even with a mask on you can tell Colin McAlpine is thinking "Why the fuck am I here?!"
Someone needs to put a bubble on him that reads "My god, this is worse than talking to Frax." I will frame that. 
Quoted from blueberryjohnson:Now we're getting somewhere in terms of legit news coverage
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/2021/08/25/sec-charges-mueller-deeproot.html[quoted image]
Wow, even The Scorpions are involved
B7672C27-C167-4B24-A1A7-7ABA490578C8 (resized).jpegQuoted from TreyBo69:The long term life insurance play was to put out pinball machines that burnt people’s houses down.
Ahh yes right back to the initial master plan....Jpop and Ben would then fly to your home with their tool belts on and rebuild said burnt down house!
Quoted from TreyBo69:Hey my buddy wrote that.
> In recent years, Mueller has been investing in a next generation pinball machine called the "Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland," which has been hotly anticipated and debated by pinball fans online.
Understatement of the year
Nice going with the nudge. Do you think he'll want to root deeper into the mess and madness that is Bobby Big Balls?
Quoted from thechakapakuni:This Deeproot saga ending is like watching a Thelma & Louise movie that ends right when they clutch hands. Did they drive off the cliff and die? Did they surrender? Did they do donuts and go nowhere?
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I had no idea what was about to happen. Definitely got the car exploding into bits ending I was looking for. So satisfying
Quoted from Inside:The Scorpions are an MLS team that dr was trying to bring to San Antonio.
D4CAFA36-369D-4744-B616-C748FB7F3325.gifQuoted from blueberryjohnson:Nice going with the nudge. Do you think he'll want to root deeper into the mess and madness that is Bobby Big Balls?
I’m sure lots of people will find this thread and its key posts.
Quoted from Rarehero:Bwaaaaahahahaha!!! OMFG.
And it wasn't Andrew's idea. It apparently was Aranovsky's. He wanted somebody to make it, obviously as a vanity thing, and Stern and JJP must have already turned him down (this being around 2013).
It fell through when the personnel in the licensing department were changed around, and Aranovsky had lost interest. I had done some playfield concept and geometry work on a widebody split-level playfield, which I held over as the first idea to make into Queen, with a third-level cross-playfield shot between the split level, but the Queen licensors had a different direction in mind which wasn't compatible with it.
There's one other license that I'm sure it would fit around, but Ben's already called dibs on it.
Quoted from mrgone:Can we, from here on out, refer to jpop as popo the clown? It just sounds right to me.
Do you mean Pogo?
pri_55973855 (resized).jpgAhh the throwbacks to BBB and wayne’s antics feel like RM is the love chid of some of those years. Everyone making claims to rights…. Secret deals and alliances… blackballing… lawsuits thrown around… broken promises left and right. That’s what this thread is missing is more Ballypinball knifing moments
Quoted from benheck:I was going to do that after I rage quite Spooky 3 years ago. Then at almost the same time Blobert announces he is making it.
Was very sad. Because I knew Blobert is the kind of slime who would sue me for doing the same public domain theme as him. And also because he'd completely fuck up the concept.
But now? Maybe I should.
No you shouldn't. Trust me. It's sounds cool in your head, but in reality, no
Quoted from lockeness:To me, the most interesting aspect of this is how COVID impacted and extended the narrative. This thing would have imploded a year ago if not for PPP, and RM was exactly the type of individual that would exploit a once in a lifetime free money opportunity.
You have no idea how true this is. They were on the verge of being caught during the 2019 TPF. Nothing to show. Look back at what he promised to reveal at that show...nope. Covid saved their ass...for a time.
Quoted from Scandell:You have no idea how true this is. They were on the verge of being caught during the 2019 TPF. Nothing to show. Look back at what he promised to reveal at that show...nope. Covid saved their ass...for a time.
Do you think it might be interesting to cross reference the retention requirements associated with PPP loans and the timing of staff departures per employment histories on LinkedIn?
Quoted from Scandell:You have no idea how true this is. They were on the verge of being caught during the 2019 TPF. Nothing to show. Look back at what he promised to reveal at that show...nope. Covid saved their ass...for a time.
The sad part was all the short term memory that had forgotten the 5 days of deeproot target launch for tpf… then during the deep six event there was NOTHING months and months after they killed the launch at nearly the last minute for tpf. And what do people see…. A promise for games in like 6 weeks ??? And they atill believed….
Goldfish memory for sure around here. Years late, multiple launch date delays, and people still feel for the “coming soon!” Completely unrealistic dates.
This hobby has shown time and time again if you show any form of a hand built flipping game people will believe you are capable of mass production weeks from now. Over and over and over… Fools and their money.
Quoted from blueberryjohnson:Do you think it might be interesting to cross reference the retention requirements associated with PPP loans and the timing of staff departures per employment histories on LinkedIn?
"I've stolen many millions from little old ladies, threatened to sue everyone, created many shell corps and gave my friend a car wash to launder money through. But this easily forgiven loan from a multi-trillion-dollar government giveaway? No! With that I shall be honest and filled with virtue!"
Quoted from iceman44:News flash, not a single car in the parking lot on this Friday afternoon. All buttoned up. Let the speculation begin. IT'S OVER!!! Could be shut down for good?
Until Monday. The suspense is palpable.
Quoted from RobT:What suspense, Icy?
We all know how this ends.
Quoted from blueberryjohnson:Now we're getting somewhere in terms of legit news coverage
https://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/2021/08/25/sec-charges-mueller-deeproot.html[quoted image]
Maybe someone on Pinside sent a link to the SEC story? Wonder if https://news4sanantonio.com/ has the link?
Quoted from benheck:"I've stolen many millions from little old ladies, threatened to sue everyone, created many shell corps and gave my friend a car wash to launder money through. But this easily forgiven loan from a multi-trillion-dollar government giveaway? No! With that I shall be honest and filled with virtue!"
Ben, some may consider this practicing law without a license.
Holy shit. Robert hired a really expensive lawyer.
Jay previously served as Counsel to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence at the U.S. House of Representatives, where he led oversight of covert actions and various intelligence gathering programs. Jay also served as the Legislative Director and Counsel to Congresswoman Jane Harman, providing policy advice and drafting legislation regarding national security, defense, homeland security, and energy issues, among others.
Prior to his time on Capitol Hill, Jay was an associate at Irell & Manella LLP in Los Angeles, California, where he handled complex litigation matters regarding intellectual property, corporate securities, and contract disputes for clients in the entertainment, media, and technology industries.
Jay received his J.D., cum laude, from Harvard Law School in 2000, and was a Primary Editor of the Harvard Law Review. He received his B.S. in Economics, magna cum laude, from Virginia Tech in 1997, and was Student Body President.
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Quoted from Inside:Holy shit. Robert hired a really expensive lawyer.
Jay previously served as Counsel to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence at the U.S. House of Representatives, where he led oversight of covert actions and various intelligence gathering programs. Jay also served as the Legislative Director and Counsel to Congresswoman Jane Harman, providing policy advice and drafting legislation regarding national security, defense, homeland security, and energy issues, among others.
Prior to his time on Capitol Hill, Jay was an associate at Irell & Manella LLP in Los Angeles, California, where he handled complex litigation matters regarding intellectual property, corporate securities, and contract disputes for clients in the entertainment, media, and technology industries.
Jay received his J.D., cum laude, from Harvard Law School in 2000, and was a Primary Editor of the Harvard Law Review. He received his B.S. in Economics, magna cum laude, from Virginia Tech in 1997, and was Student Body President.
Super Lawyers’ 2021 Texas Rising Stars Recipient – Only a few attorneys from each state are selected to Super Lawyers designation for any given year. The multi-factor selection process includes independent research, peer nominations and evaluations, as well as professional achievement in legal practice.
Damn it
Quoted from Inside:Holy shit. Robert hired a really expensive lawyer.
Jay previously served as Counsel to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence at the U.S. House of Representatives, where he led oversight of covert actions and various intelligence gathering programs. Jay also served as the Legislative Director and Counsel to Congresswoman Jane Harman, providing policy advice and drafting legislation regarding national security, defense, homeland security, and energy issues, among others.
Prior to his time on Capitol Hill, Jay was an associate at Irell & Manella LLP in Los Angeles, California, where he handled complex litigation matters regarding intellectual property, corporate securities, and contract disputes for clients in the entertainment, media, and technology industries.
Jay received his J.D., cum laude, from Harvard Law School in 2000, and was a Primary Editor of the Harvard Law Review. He received his B.S. in Economics, magna cum laude, from Virginia Tech in 1997, and was Student Body President.
Super Lawyers’ 2021 Texas Rising Stars Recipient – Only a few attorneys from each state are selected to Super Lawyers designation for any given year. The multi-factor selection process includes independent research, peer nominations and evaluations, as well as professional achievement in legal practice.
I guess we know where some of that money is going.
Does Robert know *how* expensive? And... wouldn't relying on ill-gotten gains you're charged with to pay him count as, you know, 'evidence'?
Quoted from jellikit:Do you mean Pogo?
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I immediately thought of the Killer Clown when I saw that...
Quoted from benheck:Noah? Bah! Merely a single mode in Bible Adventures!
Yes, but it takes forty days to complete.
The important thing to remember is that right now Robert & deeproot are not guilty of any crime. In the court of Pinside Public Opinion certain conclusions have already been reached, but he is as of right now still doing everything legally. As far as we know his funds haven't been frozen, etc, so he & his companies are free to use any money they have on hand to defend themselves.
Quoted from MrBally:I immediately thought of the Killer Clown when I saw that...
John Wayne Gaycee ?
LTG : )
Quoted from Inside:Holy shit. Robert hired a really expensive lawyer.
I don’t see how even the best lawyer can get him out of this. The SEC write up is incredibly damning and the fraud blatant. Had the guy simply misled investors about how he was spending the money without enriching himself and while documenting the transfers, maybe he could make a “whocouldaknown” defense. But he bought a condo in Hawaii LATE in the fraud. Its blatant and I don’t know what judge wouldn’t see that.
Quoted from blueberryjohnson:I've got the perfect name for the documentary:
Title TBD
Deeproot: Insert Coin
Quoted from Richthofen:I don’t see how even the best lawyer can get him out of this. The SEC write up is incredibly damning and the fraud blatant. Had the guy simply misled investors about how he was spending the money without enriching himself and while documenting the transfers, maybe he could make a “whocouldaknown” defense. But he bought a condo in Hawaii LATE in the fraud. Its blatant and I don’t know what judge wouldn’t see that.
He's "free" if his lawyer can find loopholes, or incorrect technicalities with the charges. 
Quoted from Coyote:He's "free" if his lawyer can find loopholes, or incorrect technicalities with the charges.
Isn't always about winning, but losing as well as possible. (plea deals, reduced sentencing)
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