Alice in Wonderland
Zidware Pinball USA, 2013
Celts
Haggis, 2021
Magic Girl
Zidware Pinball USA, 2017
Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland
Zidware Pinball USA, 2012
Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland (Arcade Edition)
Deeproot, 2020
Retro Atomic Zombie Adventureland (Xtra Edition)
Deeproot, 2020Quoted from TreyBo69:Punny Factory?
Pinball adventures is likely dead or at least have gone radio silent. They are a joke regardless. Even as a best case scenario, they are too busy making things nobody would buy to make a Pulp Fiction game.
Quoted from greatwichjohn:Deeproot has not shown any production info. That is all anyone knows here. So we continue to try & guess what is (or not) being done there.
There is lots of room for more players in the pinball market if they know what is involved around the world. But you got to have a well thought out business plan. Start of small & slowly work your way up. Not come out guns drawn & say you are going to dominate the pinball world production yourself.
John. Along with your messages being cryptic, you also state the obvious. Thats a double whammy for many of us. These are issues of basic common sense and have been covered here many times before. We stopped taking Deeproot seriously long ago because of their blunders, lies and amateur practices and we have moved on using humor. - Good luck in your pursuit.
(All. Sorry about that run-on sentence and whammy is the biggest word that I know)
Quoted from greatwichjohn:The group that went silent & continue to say they are not Deeproot. Time will tell the tale of truth or fiction. Same with the group that bought me out. Pinball is hot is all I am suppose to say at this time. People can look at my past recent posts about what I have tried to say about the industry. Same with people are interested in playfield production, compared to problems with JJP & Mirco.
Honestly dude, no one cares. Until games are rolling off the line and ready for delivery, no new company will get any sort of foothold. And any company that doesn’t understand that going in is doomed to fail.
I’ll say, on behalf of the entire hobby, to any potential new pinball venture: “Show me or shut up”.
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:I’ll say, on behalf of the entire hobby, to any potential new pinball venture: “Show me or shut up”.
That was deeproot's problem. For years it was non-stop hot air. Marquee sponsorships of large shows to promote products that didn't exist. Vaporware interviews. And of course, trashing their supposed competition.
The "trolls" called them out on that.
Quoted from greatwichjohn:I have likely said more than I should but there is still hope either for Raza pinball machines or other games. Even that comment I likely should have not said here at this time.
You've said more than you should?
You haven't said shit!
Ok I'm throwing it out there:
If someone can successfully bring Food Truck to market, I'm a buyer.
In fact, if someone can simply successfully make a convincing web page soliciting a non-refundable deposit, I'm sending you money!
Let's do this!
Quoted from CrazyLevi:Ok I'm throwing it out there:
If someone can successfully bring Food Truck to market, I'm a buyer.
In fact, if someone can simply successfully make a convincing web page soliciting a non-refundable deposit, I'm sending you money!
Let's do this!
Preferably in full, but 10% is acceptable too I suppose.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:Ok I'm throwing it out there:
If someone can successfully bring Food Truck to market, I'm a buyer.
In fact, if someone can simply successfully make a convincing web page soliciting a non-refundable deposit, I'm sending you money!
Let's do this!
Wish fulfillment is strong with this theme. Imagine how much fun it would be to work in one of those trucks.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:Ok I'm throwing it out there:
If someone can successfully bring Food Truck to market, I'm a buyer.
In fact, if someone can simply successfully make a convincing web page soliciting a non-refundable deposit, I'm sending you money!
Let's do this!
James Beard Award wizard mode is 100% coded and FIRE!
Quoted from Bumper:Assuming the legal issues is caused by someone else holding the RAZA license, who can it be?
* It is not wcbrandes
* It is not benheck
* Maybe the previous artist or a model who needs to be paid?
* Maybe American Pinball?
* Did JPOP sell the license to someone else?
You shouldn't be asking these questions. Your safety is in danger.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:Ok I'm throwing it out there:
If someone can successfully bring Food Truck to market, I'm a buyer.
In fact, if someone can simply successfully make a convincing web page soliciting a non-refundable deposit, I'm sending you money!
Let's do this!
Ok but no pictures of parts or manufacturing and radio silence please. I don't want to ruin the surprise.
And please go heavy on the hyperbole.
Quoted from greatwichjohn:What I am posting is still not saying who the new groups are, what their plans are later this year or into 2022. They WILL actually produce games, more than the 2 prototypes that Deeproot has shown over the years.
Deeproot has not shown any production info. That is all anyone knows here. So we continue to try & guess what is (or not) being done there.
There is lots of room for more players in the pinball market if they know what is involved around the world. But you got to have a well thought out business plan. Start of small & slowly work your way up. Not come out guns drawn & say you are going to dominate the pinball world production yourself.
Here is a early 2016 picture from the camera I still use. Even a 1 person operation (myself) over 5 years with the help of contractors got hundreds of playfields & backglass done.
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My hat's off to what you've been able to accomplish single-handedly. I'm curious, what is it that you wanted to "do" at Deeproot? Help with production supervision/management? I wasn't able to glean that information from the cold contact form email you posted. Given how Robert is (what we can publicly see and deduce by listening to his interviews, employees, etc), he literally thought he could dictate everything as if he were some brilliant fucking Steve Jobs of pinball. Barry and Dennis are great guys and tend to run pretty open/free flowing design teams. John most definitely needed to be dictated to (if not taken out back), but that doesn't work for everyone, especially when the guy calling the shots has literally never done anything in pinball before. I've worked with most of the pinball/amusement companies out there as a contractor, and they ALL have their own struggles. It's a complicated product with very complicated market forces and a very subjective consumer base. This is even before you get into the obvious lack of management/operating infrastructure at DR.
More room? Sure, if games are flying out the door and no MFG can make them quickly enough, I can imagine some opportunists out there wanting to dive in. But let's see who ships and supports their games.
So to repeatedly tell yourself you could've righted the ship I think will lead to undue torment on your end.
Quoted from Mr68:Ok but no pictures of parts or manufacturing and radio silence please. I don't want to ruin the surprise.
And please go heavy on the hyperbole.
Can you make it a "retro" themed food truck? I like retro. Maybe they serve diner food?
Quoted from blueberryjohnson:Can you make it a "retro" themed food truck? I like retro. Maybe they serve diner food?
You’ll get sushi burritos, artisan French fries, and cronuts and like it
I previously suggested Robert start a patreon where he plays a braggadocios pinball CEO, doing ridiculous interviews and such with none of the stresses or challenges of actually trying to run a business. I even pre- pre-ordered (committed to sign up if one were launched).
Nothing came of it. But this was before the legal issue was announced and deeproot deep sixed much of its online presence. Perhaps it's time Robert reconsidered.
Quoted from toyotaboy:it also must contain aliens.. they get hungry too
So do scientists. And zombies (though typically not for lobster rolls).
Quoted from CrazyLevi:You shouldn't be asking these questions. Your safety is in danger.
8EE05281-CB76-49F3-AB28-4D5150747297.gifQuoted from blueberryjohnson:So do scientists. And zombies (though typically not for lobster rolls).
can we work in a tribute to the environmental themes of Python Anghelo’s Popeye? Or is the futuristic space ark saved for Fire and Brimestone
Maybe mix it up from the purple, how about lilac?
Now that ice is back in town, when's the next parking lot inspection? Midday Wednesday should be a good opportunity to surmise if things are more full speed ahead or furloughed since July.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:Ok I'm throwing it out there:
If someone can successfully bring Food Truck to market, I'm a buyer.
In fact, if someone can simply successfully make a convincing web page soliciting a non-refundable deposit, I'm sending you money!
Let's do this!
Do you require a secure webpage, or no?
Quoted from blueberryjohnson:Now that ice is back in town, when's the next parking lot inspection? Midday Wednesday should be a good opportunity to surmise if things are more full speed ahead or furloughed since July.
zzzUntitled 1 (resized).pngQuoted from blueberryjohnson:Wish fulfillment is strong with this theme. Imagine how much fun it would be to work in one of those trucks.
90 degrees outside.... inside a truck where food is being cooked.... cramped with 2 other people... having to wear a mask....
SIGN ME UP!
Quoted from TreyBo69:can we work in a tribute to the environmental themes of Python Anghelo’s Popeye?
Too bad deeproot ditched their animation studio, they could have wasted another couple of years doing art for the full original concept.
http://backglass.org/williams/kordek_archives/python_apopeyelypse_now.pdf
Quoted from jellikit:Ask the questions...
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Ha, KK called his mom's basement "the factory".
Quoted from Bumper:Assuming the legal issues is caused by someone else holding the RAZA license
IANAL, but isn't bankruptcy a "legal" issue?
Quoted from KerryImming:IANAL, but isn't bankruptcy a "legal" issue?
They're be paperwork and notice if that were the case. (because the courts immediately get in the line to stop/control distributions/claims)
Quoted from frobozz:Too bad deeproot ditched their animation studio, they could have wasted another couple of years doing art for the full original concept.
http://backglass.org/williams/kordek_archives/python_apopeyelypse_now.pdf
Deeproot Studios was spun off into https://www.futurehousestudios.com/, run by one of the former DR employees. Per Future House (a company that may actually produce things), deeproot is one of their top customers. So there's still hope!
Quoted from blueberryjohnson:Deeproot Studios was spun off into https://www.futurehousestudios.com/, run by one of the former DR employees. Per Future House (a company that may actually produce things), deeproot is one of their top customers. So there's still hope!
Interesting, in their demo reel you can see footage made for Food Truck and some sort of Medieval game (both are obvious by their extreme widescreen that the deeproot system uses).
https://www.futurehousestudios.com/our-work
I'm kind of sorry we'll never see Food Truck.
Quoted from frolic:Interesting, in their demo reel you can see footage made for Food Truck and some sort of Medieval game (both are obvious by their extreme widescreen that the deeproot system uses).
https://www.futurehousestudios.com/our-work
I'm kind of sorry we'll never see Food Truck.
Assume it's for Merlin's Arcade. Has a Tangled feel and would definitely be great in a pinball machine! Maybe the other Merlin game being made by Kaneda's friend or whoever it is would want to buy the assets?
Quoted from Scandell:Ryan is a great guy.
Great guy. Horrible employer. RM has done damage all at the expense of hubris. Goodbye mr. mueller. You don’t deserve capital letters.
This remains the single most batshit crazy thing I've read in my time on earth. Every few years I revisit it to see if it's as unhinged as I remember. Every time I rediscover an even more ridiculous detail I'd forgotten. Hard to fathom the amount of cocaine and chutzpah it took for Python to present this to Williams as a game they'd actually manufacture. And they sort of did!
If you've never read it, do yourself a... favor? Pull up a chair, crack open a cold one, cut a few lines on the mirror, and get inside Python's brain for a while.
Quoted from underlord:Great guy. Horrible employer. RM has done damage all at the expense of hubris. Goodbye mr. mueller. You don’t deserve capital letters.
??? I wasn't talking about RM.
Quoted from frolic:Interesting, in their demo reel you can see footage made for Food Truck and some sort of Medieval game (both are obvious by their extreme widescreen that the deeproot system uses).
https://www.futurehousestudios.com/our-work
I'm kind of sorry we'll never see Food Truck.
And some leftover Octo-Manufacturing influences, it appears:
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EDIT: Oops, beat me to it!
Quoted from Quadrat:If you watch the video you can see the Octo-mfg at about 25 seconds in.
Quoted from blueberryjohnson:Deeproot Studios was spun off into https://www.futurehousestudios.com/, run by one of the former DR employees. Per Future House (a company that may actually produce things), deeproot is one of their top customers. So there's still hope!
Wonder if DR paid them.
Quoted from greatwichjohn:What I am posting is still not saying who the new groups are, what their plans are later this year or into 2022. They WILL actually produce games, more than the 2 prototypes that Deeproot has shown over the years.
Deeproot has not shown any production info. That is all anyone knows here. So we continue to try & guess what is (or not) being done there.
There is lots of room for more players in the pinball market if they know what is involved around the world. But you got to have a well thought out business plan. Start of small & slowly work your way up. Not come out guns drawn & say you are going to dominate the pinball world production yourself.
Here is a early 2016 picture from the camera I still use. Even a 1 person operation (myself) over 5 years with the help of contractors got hundreds of playfields & backglass done.
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Thanks, makes total sense and really clears it up 
Quoted from blueberryjohnson:Feel bad for the Bird[quoted image][quoted image]
Ned is a perfectly good sculpt. Why do they keep noodling on it?
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Also I noticed the old UFO sculpt got replaced with the dirt bike. Dizzie Doodle sculpt a little different now too
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There are a lot of subtle changes between the original proto and the “final”
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