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#19851 1 year ago
 
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Haymaker

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Quoted from CrazyLevi:

It really seems like effective humor in pinball died with Bally/Williams.
Though I haven't spent much time with the new Elvira. I do enjoy the fact that it's got an anal sex joke right on a playfield plastic!!! (that's gotta be a first...and people say there's no innovation!)

"not everyone likes going in the back door, but YOU DO!" pretty funny callout in that machine the first time you hear it tbh.
Haven't you played Deadpool? That game is really funny too

Quoted from Makakka:

Wtf is this shaming. If my preorder money goes into the void for nothing I deal with that myself. What is shocking me normally it’s not allowed to defame a pinball company not having conceded yet here with „shitty company“ but with deeproot its alright.

lol

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#19852 1 year ago
 
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I imagine most of the script part of what Bowden is posting would be attributed to Quinn Johnson, not him (the rules to Steve)

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#19853 1 year ago
 
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Quoted from benheck:

Oh i agree. Whacking a ball around a piece of wood is quite abstract, it's very representative. Which is why theme is very important. You don't have the tactile 1 satisfaction of something like Cooking Mama.

Cooking Mama was very much about the gimmick of waggling a wiimote or drawing on a DS to mimic cooking. They also made a bizarre spin off call Babysitting Mama that came with a baby plushie you'd put a wiimote into, and then it would constantly yell at you to not shake the baby

I'd love to see what some random Japanese game developers would do on a pinball machine. It'd be a glorious mess.

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#19854 1 year ago
 
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blueberryjohnson

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Bob's Burgers would of course sell much more than Food Truck. And I'd pay the MSRP just to watch the behind-the-scenes of JP and RM voice directing Jon Benjamin's booth sessions.

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#19855 1 year ago
 
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blueberryjohnson

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Quoted from TreyBo69:

Cooking Mama was very much about the gimmick of waggling a wiimote or drawing on a DS to mimic cooking. They also made a bizarre spin off call Babysitting Mama that came with a baby plushie you'd put a wiimote into, and then it would constantly yell at you to not shake the baby

Classic wish fulfillment!

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#19856 1 year ago
 
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Quoted from Haymaker:

Thats true, except imo and I don't mean to actually offend anyone who is a preorderer when I say this but its just not a good look. You look like a damn fool to ignore all the red flags AND to support such a shitty company. I know people throw away money on way dumber things all the time, but come on man. You just look like a sucker, plus you're supporting a bunch of assholes (save me the pearl clutching, I know theres a lot of good folks there, you know exactly what I mean).

Not a good look? How about "Deeproot derangement Syndrome". Good lord. LOL.

The real "suckers" are the one's wasting half their daily lives posting the SAME drivel and nonsense over something they have no stake in, 24/7. Let's try and at least get some more funny digs in so i can be entertained, the material lately sucks.

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#19857 1 year ago
 
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Quoted from iceman44:

Not a good look? How about "Deeproot derangement Syndrome". Good lord. LOL.
The real "suckers" are the one's wasting half their daily lives posting drivel and nonsense over something they have no stake in, 24/7.

Shouldn't you be counting cars in a parking lot?

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#19858 1 year ago
 
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Imagine you're Bowden or whoever is doing the rules. You get this PF with not enough inserts and the ones there are just say shit like ZAP and That's a Doozie!

That's why so much of it falls back on the PinBar. All these shops, tokens and other BS that are gonna bring the game to a crawl.

We heard they might remove the PinBar. OK. How do you track passage on the game? The inserts are a bunch of BS John slapped down in his usual "it just has to look like a pinball" way. Where's the 1 2 3? Where's the light progression? Where's the mode tracking?

It's just a cluster food truck of DUMB and it all goes back to the original sin of hiring JPOP.

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#19859 1 year ago
 
BEN

benheck

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Quoted from TreyBo69:

Shouldn't you be counting cars in a parking lot?

Yeah ICE. They owe you a tour. You let them "lawyer" you out of it. (insert chicken noises here)

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#19860 1 year ago
 
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iceman44

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Quoted from benheck:

Yeah ICE. They owe you a tour. You let them "lawyer" you out of it. (insert chicken noises here)

LOL, how do you know i haven't already had the "tour" Ben? I'm under a very strict NDA.

But i can still take parking lot pics. Coming up right after lunch for your viewing pleasure.

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#19861 1 year ago
 
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Zablon

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Gathering around talking about building machines is not the same as building pinball machines. Car count doesn't matter

If they still have something to hide at this point, they are just hiding that they aren't building machines.

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#19862 1 year ago
 
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fastpinball

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Quoted from iceman44:

LOL, how do you know i haven't already had the "tour" Ben? I'm under a very strict NDA.
But i can still take parking lot pics. Coming up right after lunch for your viewing pleasure.

Anyone else hoping to see an actual Food Truck in the parking lot photos?

Aaron
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#19863 1 year ago
 
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JodyG

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Quoted from fastpinball:

Anyone else hoping to see an actual Food Truck in the parking lot photos?
Aaron
FAST Pinball

You laugh, but one of the only redeeming qualities about occasionally going down to work at our facility in Texas is the $1 burrito truck that comes at 9:30 AM every day. I wish we had that here!

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#19864 1 year ago
 
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fastpinball

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Quoted from JodyG:

You laugh, but one of the only redeeming qualities about occasionally going down to work at our facility in Texas is the $1 burrito truck that comes at 9:30 AM every day. I wish we had that here!

I always volunteer to take my kid to water polo conditioning when it is at the high school near the taco truck.

Old picture, same taco truck

Aaron
FAST Pinball

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#19865 1 year ago
 
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Rarehero

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Quoted from benheck:

It's really missing in pinball I agree. I really like the new Elvira but I wouldn't call it funny per se.

Rick & Morty, bruh!!!!

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#19866 1 year ago
 
BEN

benheck

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Quoted from iceman44:

LOL, how do you know i haven't already had the "tour" Ben? I'm under a very strict NDA.
But i can still take parking lot pics. Coming up right after lunch for your viewing pleasure.

Yahoo!

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#19867 1 year ago
 
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Haymaker

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Quoted from iceman44:

Not a good look? How about "Deeproot derangement Syndrome". Good lord. LOL.
The real "suckers" are the one's wasting half their daily lives posting the SAME drivel and nonsense over something they have no stake in, 24/7. Let's try and at least get some more funny digs in so i can be entertained, the material lately sucks.

I agree, deeproot derangement syndrome is a big problem. Thats why I don't post much in the RAZA pre-order thread. Too much of it going on there.

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#19868 1 year ago
 
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toyotaboy

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Like Ben said very early on in this thread, the stop and go of buying items in a store are going to kill RAZA's fun rating. On ANY pinball where's there's more than 2 seconds of dialogue, if I've already heard it I hit the flipper buttons to skip and that includes rick and morty which is pretty much my favorite show. I want to play pinball, not stand there and watch clips or buy store items.

But also if Deeproot kills the pinbar and ends up just putting a display in the backbox and have simplistic menus chosen by flipper buttons it's going to be pathetic after they claimed to have re-invented pinball.

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#19869 1 year ago
 
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Zablon

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Quoted from Rarehero:Rick & Morty, bruh!!!!

Yeah agreed, however I think the style of humor on this game isn't for everyone. Certainly is for me

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#19870 1 year ago
 
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benheck

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Played a Mando Pro and there's a lot of "Stop everything and look at this footage we spent a fortune licensing!"

And yeah, my point with the PinBar is John did a poor job (imagine that) of setting up the PF with the proper inserts to track mode progression. So a lot of that was probably slagged off onto the PinBar. Losing it likely means a total rework of the rules.

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#19871 1 year ago
 
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SLAMT1LT

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I wrote pages and pages of funny one liners for Full Throttle. Had the main character - Francisco Valentino, pretty much just firing insults at the player every chance he gets. I remember the sensitive souls at Heighway saying: "You can't do that, you can't insult the player like that". I fired back saying: "He's an arsehole, I want the player to hate him, so they try harder to beat him". And boy, when you beat an arsehole, do you feel good about it!

In all the games I produce, when you drain, I make sure I throw in a multitude of insults and hysterical laughter at your expense. Why? So it's fires you up to play better, but it also softens the blow of the losing the ball, and you'll break a smile.

You have to write a ton of lines when making a pinball game, and having any line repeat in a single game is a big NO NO!!

But whom in the wonderful world of (real) pinball is a skilled writer of dialogue? Pinball has changed, and story-telling is now starting to take center stage.

If you want my advice....find yourself a writer when out shopping for new talent Mr Deep Pockets. Forget shitty and expensive animations...no one's looking at that crap, only spectators.

I would offer my services, but I've been in one pinball train wreck already.

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#19872 1 year ago
 
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sataneatscheese

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Quoted from toyotaboy:

Like Ben said very early on in this thread, the stop and go of buying items in a store are going to kill RAZA's fun rating. On ANY pinball where's there's more than 2 seconds of dialogue, if I've already heard it I hit the flipper buttons to skip and that includes rick and morty which is pretty much my favorite show. I want to play pinball, not stand there and watch clips or buy store items.
But also if Deeproot kills the pinbar and ends up just putting a display in the backbox and have simplistic menus chosen by flipper buttons it's going to be pathetic after they claimed to have re-invented pinball.

Quoted from benheck:

Played a Mando Pro and there's a lot of "Stop everything and look at this footage we spent a fortune licensing!"
And yeah, my point with the PinBar is John did a poor job (imagine that) of setting up the PF with the proper inserts to track mode progression. So a lot of that was probably slagged off onto the PinBar. Losing it likely means a total rework of the rules.

I'm okay with a pause when it is a big deal and something interactive is happening under the glass.

Think back to the Addams Family. Thing grabbing the ball, showtime... all those took a little bit of time.

The launch sequence in flight 2000 takes forever, and so does the dinosaur eating the ball in Jurassic Park.

High Speed multiball, F-14 multiball, Torpedo Alley multiball, I love these little shows.

These are all great, but don't happen all the time and have a cool electro-mechanical show to go with it.

If Deeproot paused a second or two for a show under glass I'd be all for it. If they stop to show us some college dropout animation on the screen... ugh... I hope its skippable.

Benheck... is AP's next game going to have a Viking theme?

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#19873 1 year ago
 
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#19874 1 year ago
 
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Rarehero

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Quoted from benheck:

Played a Mando Pro and there's a lot of "Stop everything and look at this footage we spent a fortune licensing!"

Some people like that. It’s a “reward” for a mode completed. Even DMD games like LOTR had “finale” scenes….and like old games, a double flipper press on Mando skips it if you wanna keep moving.

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#19875 1 year ago
 
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Yelobird

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Quoted from JodyG:

I asked you a specific question, which you completely ignored.

You asked about my decisions which last I checked I didn't need to get permission from you to make nor clarify.

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#19876 1 year ago
 
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okgrak

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Did you guys know Robert Mueller graduated a semester early from law school in 2000? It's in his bio on the website.

He seems like a fun guy to have a beer with.

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#19877 1 year ago
 
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Zablon

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Quoted from okgrak:

Did you guys know Robert Mueller graduated a semester early from law school in 2000? It's in his bio on the website.
He seems like a fun guy to have a beer with.

There are people out there that are fun to hang with but you just don't want to do business with them.

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#19878 1 year ago
 
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Quoted from SLAMT1LT:

In all the games I produce, when you drain, I make sure I throw in a multitude of insults and hysterical laughter at your expense. Why? So it's fires you up to play better, but it also softens the blow of the losing the ball, and you'll break a smile.

F14 does exactly that to me, but Houdini completely puts me off. You want to send an invitation to a challenge. You definitely don't want to insult the player and risk he does not come back.

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#19879 1 year ago
 
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Haymaker

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Quoted from SLAMT1LT:

I wrote pages and pages of funny one liners for Full Throttle. Had the main character - Francisco Valentino, pretty much just firing insults at the player every chance he gets. I remember the sensitive souls at Heighway saying: "You can't do that, you can't insult the player like that". I fired back saying: "He's an arsehole, I want the player to hate him, so they try harder to beat him". And boy, when you beat an arsehole, do you feel good about it!
In all the games I produce, when you drain, I make sure I throw in a multitude of insults and hysterical laughter at your expense. Why? So it's fires you up to play better, but it also softens the blow of the losing the ball, and you'll break a smile.
You have to write a ton of lines when making a pinball game, and having any line repeat in a single game is a big NO NO!!
But whom in the wonderful world of (real) pinball is a skilled writer of dialogue? Pinball has changed, and story-telling is now starting to take center stage.
If you want my advice....find yourself a writer when out shopping for new talent Mr Deep Pockets. Forget shitty and expensive animations...no one's looking at that crap, only spectators.
I would offer my services, but I've been in one pinball train wreck already.

Man I love games where a character is talking shit to you. I thought most others loved that too. Heighway was a joke

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#19880 1 year ago
 
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NoQuarters

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I just love games that are actually built.

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#19881 1 year ago
 
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#19882 1 year ago
 
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Quoted from iceman44:

Let's try and at least get some more funny digs in so i can be entertained, the material lately sucks.

You've blocked all of the funny people.

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#19883 1 year ago
 
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iceman44

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Quoted from Haymaker:

I agree, deeproot derangement syndrome is a big problem. Thats why I don't post much in the RAZA pre-order thread. Too much of it going on there.

It's no big deal brother. Nobody there that i see or anybody else is freaking out about DR. It's not like life and death like it is for you guys! Hanging on every post wondering when the news of DR's final closure is coming. Today? Next week? Keep it up. LOL

I'm going to give the "Derangement club" something to get all giddy about and feed your sickness for the weekend though. Like a bunch of monkeys F ing a football.

News flash, not a single car in the parking lot on this Friday afternoon. All buttoned up. Let the speculation begin. IT'S OVER!!! Could be shut down for good?

Until Monday. The suspense is palpable.

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#19884 1 year ago
 
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Quoted from iceman44:

News flash, not a single car in the parking lot on this Friday afternoon. All buttoned up. Let the speculation begin. IT'S OVER!!! Could be shut down for good?

Remember when Tesla was behind schedule and Elon was sleeping at the factory helping work on cars to get them out? This is like the exact opposite of that. lol.

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#19885 1 year ago
 
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iceman44

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Quoted from frolic:

Remember when Tesla was behind schedule and Elon was sleeping at the factory helping work on cars to get them out? This is like the exact opposite of that. lol.

Maybe out on a company bonding retreat due to stress and overworked?

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#19886 1 year ago
 
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NoQuarters

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Quoted from iceman44:

News flash, not a single car in the parking lot on this Friday afternoon. All buttoned up. Let the speculation begin. IT'S OVER!!! Could be shut down for good?
Until Monday. The suspense is palpable.

Could be just the opposite -

They have every single game built and are taking the day off. Probably will begin shipping them all next week !

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#19887 1 year ago
 
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Bublehead

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Quoted from okgrak:

He seems like a fun guy to have a beer with.

With the exception of the braggadocio... some recent hits:

"I am going to drink more beers than the rest of you combined..."

"Drinking beer is easy..."

"Due to the recent beer shortage, we won't be drinking any beer until sometime after the holiday..."

"Do they sell Purple beer at Starbucks?" Oops, that was a Jpop quote there...

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#19888 1 year ago
 
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Quoted from iceman44:

News flash, not a single car in the parking lot on this Friday afternoon. All buttoned up. Let the speculation begin. IT'S OVER!!! Could be shut down for good?
Until Monday. The suspense is palpable.

What suspense, Icy?

We all know how this ends.

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#19889 1 year ago
 
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Drewscruis

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Quoted from iceman44:

LOL, how do you know i haven't already had the "tour" Ben? I'm under a very strict NDA.
But i can still take parking lot pics. Coming up right after lunch for your viewing pleasure.

Hey, it's past noon in texas right now. Don't see any pics yet.....

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#19890 1 year ago
 
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ZNET

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Quoted from okgrak:

Did you guys know Robert Mueller graduated a semester early from law school in 2000? It's in his bio on the website.
He seems like a fun guy to have a beer with.

Graduating early from a law school ranked in the bottom 25% of all law schools nationwide (Saint Mary's School of Law in San Antonio, TX) is like a chef bragging about landing a job operating a food truck.

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#19891 1 year ago
 
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stevevt

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Quoted from Drewscruis:

Hey, it's past noon in texas right now. Don't see any pics yet.....

You can't picture an empty parking lot?

Quoted from iceman44:

News flash, not a single car in the parking lot on this Friday afternoon. All buttoned up.

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#19892 1 year ago
 
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blueberryjohnson

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Perhaps a reskin is in the works and this is a precursor to announcing Moving Van

s are being loaded in the parking lot as DR clears out of the building.

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#19893 1 year ago
 
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cooked71

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AMH is easily the funniest recent game.

RnM is if you be watch the show.

Deadpool and Elvira honorable mentions, but I find both get tired pretty quick.

B66 is pretty funny mostly because the show looks so cheesy and camp now.

But humour, like most things, is subjective.

Food Truck will need truck loads of humour to work. Doesn’t seem like a very humorous company though. Mueller will be too concerned about the legal ramifications.

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#19894 1 year ago
 
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JodyG

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Quoted from Yelobird:

You asked about my decisions which last I checked I didn't need to get permission from you to make nor clarify.

Wrong, I legitimately asked about why you felt a certain way. But go ahead and slather on your typical arrogant snark as usual.

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#19895 1 year ago
 
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Quoted from okgrak:

Did you guys know Robert Mueller graduated a semester early from law school in 2000? It's in his bio on the website.
He seems like a fun guy to have a beer with.

Probably the best time to have that beer with him was 3 years ago. That would have been an awesome time.

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#19896 1 year ago
 
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blueberryjohnson

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Interestingly (and perhaps surprisingly?), LinkedIn indicates DR has actually hired a couple new staff this year:

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#19897 1 year ago
 
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blueberryjohnson

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New Glassdoor review (and the previous two)

https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Deeproot-Tech-Reviews-E2552550.htm

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#19898 1 year ago
 
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I feel like Yelo is one of the few preorder people who was always a bit skeptical of the timeline of getting the game and was fine waiting a long time, as long as there are periodic updates. Seems consistent in that regard. Some other pre-order people really seemed surprised they had nothing by early summer.

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#19899 1 year ago
 
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blueberryjohnson

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Some deeproot shipping info (in, not out)

https://panjiva.com/Deeproot-Tech-Llc/47920438

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72 LCD panels received in late April

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#19900 1 year ago
 
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Hey since you're bored can you track down my Alien shipment?

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Daddio's 3D Printed Mods
Toys/Add-ons
$ 1.29
Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
Cross Acorn Nut Replacements - 6-32 sized
Daddio's 3D Printed Mods
Toys/Add-ons
$ 15.00
Cabinet - Sound/Speakers
10 ft. External Subwoofer Cable
Gweem's Mods
Sound/Speakers
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